The "LATEST NEWS" Daily ITK Tranny Disco Thread 28th Jan 2013

[voxy28]

Negredo's goal tonight is a lot of what we've been missing this season. Just not enough of a physical presence in the midst of all the defenders. He would instantly change that.

It's also funny, but I would say that Negredo is in some ways similar to Huntelaar in the body type, style of play, and it wouldn't hurt that the guy who really fed Huntelaar plenty of chances (Holtby) had just been brought in.

Not forgetting the wing plays by Drexler and Farfan are very similar to Bale and Lennon.

 

[arunspurs]

Rhodes really

Going to have to disagree there, want the best for our Spurs and he isn't anywhere near top 4 calibre.

There is no such thing as 'top4 calibre'. There are players who step up to challenges and those who don't. Gylfi who had a preseason is getting found out, Dempsey who didnt have any, is constantly stepping up. A certain Modric was great for us but is struggling to get into team at Madrid, who soe of us labelled world class.

Rhodes is one of the best young talents around. He can step up in class. With all the chaos in the chicken farm, with no proper manager to groom him, he still scores 18 in 23 games - all clean strikes headers, one on ones, good movement - he has got it all. Someone like him as third striker, I will take him

If one of our academy bred striker had such a goal tally (106 goals in 171 games in league football) previous season in League 1 & now in Championship, we would be shouting our lungs out for a chance in first team.

 

[smudger]

But we don't need young strikers we need proven goal scorers who can get us to that top 4 and whilst a foreign forward is also a risk I'd rather take that than risk it on a youngster

 

[Spurger King]

Not forgetting the wing plays by Drexler and Farfan are very similar to Bale and Lennon.

Probably the wrong place to ask this, but is Huntelaar vaguely similar to Defoe - in terms of being a poacher that doesn't tend to hold the ball up? From the little I've seen of him that's how he comes across, which I actually think could be a good thing if Holtby is playing behind Defoe.

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

There is no such thing as 'top4 calibre'. There are players who step up to challenges and those who don't. Gylfi who had a preseason is getting found out, Dempsey who didnt have any, is constantly stepping up. A certain Modric was great for us but is struggling to get into team at Madrid, who soe of us labelled world class.

Rhodes is one of the best young talents around. He can step up in class. With all the chaos in the chicken farm, with no proper manager to groom him, he still scores 18 in 23 games - all clean strikes headers, one on ones, good movement - he has got it all. Someone like him as third striker, I will take him

If one of our academy bred striker had such a goal tally (106 goals in 171 games in league football) previous season in League 1 & now in Championship, we would be shouting our lungs out for a chance in first team.

But he wouldn't be free would he? That's eschewing your point.

If he was knocking around in our u21 of course people would want to give him a chance...

But he would cost easily £10-15 million given what they paid for him and his recent goal scoring...

You think we couldn't utilise that money in a better way? Sorry to have to disagree again but Jordan Rhodes will not be the answer to our striking problems.

Don't really see the Modric analogy either; he consistently dictated our play for several seasons in Europe and EPL... Rhodes has knocked in 18 goals in Championship... By that merit do you want us to go all out for Charlie Austin? Or Becchio or Murray?

 

[noahrobert]

There is no such thing as 'top4 calibre'. There are players who step up to challenges and those who don't. Gylfi who had a preseason is getting found out, Dempsey who didnt have any, is constantly stepping up. A certain Modric was great for us but is struggling to get into team at Madrid, who soe of us labelled world class.

Rhodes is one of the best young talents around. He can step up in class. With all the chaos in the chicken farm, with no proper manager to groom him, he still scores 18 in 23 games - all clean strikes headers, one on ones, good movement - he has got it all. Someone like him as third striker, I will take him

If one of our academy bred striker had such a goal tally (106 goals in 171 games in league football) previous season in League 1 & now in Championship, we would be shouting our lungs out for a chance in first team.

I got dumbed to fuck for suggesting Rhodes about a year ago.

Kid is quality.

He will be a top player for someone.

Cue: lettuces, tomatoes and dumb ratings, with a sprinkle of sarcastic opimistic rates for texture.

 

[carpediem991]

In really really hard times we could even play Dembele at top.He isn't too unexperienced there. Yes he is needed elsewhere and his regular position has to be CM, but in hard times maybe better than other options. Holtby could do Dembeles job in this time.

And to answer the question if Negredo+Diame or Willian: For me definately Willian. Have no doubt he could bring us to another level. Would be good for Lennon and Dempsey to have serious competition and we would have one of them on the bench and it ist nice to have some quality players there. But it won't happen anyway. I doubt we get Negredo as well.

 

[arunspurs]

But we don't need young strikers we need proven goal scorers who can get us to that top 4 and whilst a foreign forward is also a risk I'd rather take that than risk it on a youngster

Agreed. But the reality is, for a proven goal scorer we need to dish out lots of fees, lots of wages etc etc. Thats not going to happen in Jan. We are not going to spend 20+ million on a striker.

Also, I see some of fans wanting Damiao. He hasn't scored in 562 min for his clubs. The thing is, the trust we have in a foreign player in a foreign league, we don't have that in a domestic player.

People forget that the core of our team is bought & groomed from Championship sides. I would rather take a 22 year old goal scoring sensation from Championship than a near retiree on a free transfer.

 

[Wick3d]

Seems like people are getting more desperate and are adopting the strategy of "anyone will do!"

 

[Gedson100]

Seems like people are getting more desperate and are adopting the strategy of "anyone will do!"

I would argue that we need a 3rd striker and depending on how we get on trying to sign a good one, we might end up quite close to 'anyone will do'. Hopefully it won't come to that and whoever we get in has a record of scoring goals at whatever level they've been playing at.

 

[Gedson100]

Personally, I think any striker that comes in is going to be vying with Defoe to play with Ade or sitting on the bench with Defoe waiting to replace Ade. Ade's had a mare of a season, injured, suspended, just never got going, but despite disparaging ITk suggesting he's not flavour of the month around the place, I think it's significant that Villas Boas has selected him almost every match that he could. His partnership with Defoe is non-existent but with an intelligent, unselfish when required partner, he could really prosper. Someone with a bit more nous than Defoe be it Negredo or Hooper or whoever Villas Boas fancies for the role. Look how well he linked up with Saha when he arrived.
We need more of that.

 

[beats1]

The whole point Dempsey was brought, was so that he can cover for Ade or Defoe, So I wouldnt be surprised if Levy is willing to wait it out

 

[Spurger King]

I would argue that we need a 3rd striker and depending on how we get on trying to sign a good one, we might end up quite close to 'anyone will do'. Hopefully it won't come to that and whoever we get in has a record of scoring goals at whatever level they've been playing at.

Sounds a lot like Hooper to me.

Personally as much as I'd love a star striker to come in, I'm confident enough that Defoe and Adebayor (if and when he regains his form) will be good enough for a top 4 finish. However as you say, a 3rd striker is essential. Oddly enough I think the current situation could be a blessing in disguise if we get someone half decent in. No way would Levy sign a striker if Ade hadn't gone to the ACN, and with Defoe possibly injured I think he's backed into a corner on this one.

Anyway...sooner or later Levy is going to have to either spend big on a striker, or hope we discover a rough diamond. Defoe and Adebayor aren't exactly spring chickens.

 

[carpediem991]

Seems like people are getting more desperate and are adopting the strategy of "anyone will do!"

Always like this. At the beginning we think we can afford real quality players and even moan with the first back-up options. By the time we see there is no chance for our most wanted guys and suddenly the first back-up option is okay. So the end nears and no one is in sight and the first back-up option would be awesome. But the back-up guy is unlikely as well. Then the targets get more realistic and are pretty underwhelming compared to our wishes at the beginning. Everyone knows they are likely to be shit but as long as we haven't watched them enough they could do a good job. And then, nothing is happening and the window is nearly closing suddenly everyone seems to be a great addition

 

[arunspurs]

But he wouldn't be free would he? That's eschewing your point.

If he was knocking around in our u21 of course people would want to give him a chance...

But he would cost easily £10-15 million given what they paid for him and his recent goal scoring...

You think we couldn't utilise that money in a better way? Sorry to have to disagree again but Jordan Rhodes will not be the answer to our striking problems.

Don't really see the Modric analogy either; he consistently dictated our play for several seasons in Europe and EPL... Rhodes has knocked in 18 goals in Championship... By that merit do you want us to go all out for Charlie Austin? Or Becchio or Murray?

You said Rhodes is not top4 calibre yet you say he wont be cheap ?
To the larger point, yes, he will be around 10m (BRFC bought him for 8m). Throw in Bentley & a couple of loans the deal is doable.

Am not suggesting any one who is scoring 20 gaols a season in lower division. This is a top player, who has even started scoring against International sides. 3 in 2 games. (also one against Dutch in U21).

 

[Spurger King]

The whole point Dempsey was brought, was so that he can cover for Ade or Defoe, So I wouldnt be surprised if Levy is willing to wait it out

But not both though surely?

 

[faze_coys]

Rhodes wont ever be top premiership class.

he is at his level right now.

 

[Gollorius]

Typing Laura Maggi into google pictures has given me a right chubb-on.

They have to be the fakest fake t!ts I've ever seen.

Pretty girl though.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Don't see Willian happening. Willian plays in either wings or behind striker. Unless we ship out one of Bale or Lennon, I dont know where he will play.

Next 3 days if we get Diame & Negredo or Hooper or Rhodes will be happy.

Shit, of course, why didn't we all think of that, why an earth would we want Willian when we have Lennon who is brilliant*.















*At least two games a season.

 

[Spurger King]

Just to cheer you all up, here's what Jasper on SO has to say on the latest rumours...

I would be bowled over and utterly shocked if we spent 20m+ on a player this month, cannot see it happening- much lesser figure yes. We just will not do it which is my opinion. Only three full days left and we dill find out if our pursuits have proved successful. We want a loan and that at present seems dead, with view to. Permanent transfer. This player in question is not a striker, and it is still a point of active pursuits but it is about 'take now and pay later' which is a challenge​

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