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Teegart

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I agree with Paolo, this is too big to fuck up. If we don't buy new strikers, we can wave bye bye to any hope of challenging for 4th.

I'm staying optimistic like I do every transfer window. The trouble is come September 1st, my optimism ends up in disappointment akin to being tea-bagged by a fat man wearing an Arsenal strip.

I refuse to believe that we will not buy at a minimum 2 new strikers and a replacement for Modric if/when he swans off to Madrid. These needs are so blindingly obvious that I think they will be addressed. Would be nice if it happened before deadline day, but that it seems, really is too much to ask.
 

Stavrogin

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Apr 17, 2004
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Well, it wouldn't happen but...

Would defoe step up to the plate? Could he have a clive allen type season? He was kind of prolific last year and if we set the team up around him ( ie. less hold up play etc. ) he might just get into a rhythm and do his duty. It's possible.
 

mil1lion

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May 7, 2004
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Our current squad isn't good enough for a top 4 finish.

To compete for CL qualification we need 2 strikers and a replacement for Modric. Anything more than that would be a bonus imo.
 

Outnumbered

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Happy with Friedel!

Back four is gonna be one of the best I think next year.
Modric needs to go, but replacement is a must!
Need two strikers, Ade and 1 other.

If we can get a replacement for Modric and sign two strikers, top 5 defo, top four at a push!
With only get Ade in, 6th
 

eddiebailey

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Oct 12, 2004
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Keepers are top six.
Defence is top four.
Midfield without Modric and Pienaar and with Krancjar gone wouid be lacking flair and a bit better than mid-table.
Strikers without Ade are relegation zone.

I reckon we would finish about 8th, and be frustrating to watch.
 

Misfit

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May 7, 2006
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Keepers are top six.
Defence is top four.
Midfield without Modric and Pienaar and with Krancjar gone wouid be mid-table.
Strikers without Ade are relegation zone.

I reckon we would be top eight, and deathly to watch.

It really woudn't. VDV, Sandro, Parker and Gylfi would keep our head above the murky waters of mid-table.

Agree on the rest. Defoe can score but goes games at a time without doing so. Simply unnaceptable for a striker in team looking for top 4. It's the flaw in the squad right now and a fatal one.
 

eddiebailey

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It really woudn't. VDV, Sandro, Parker and Gylfi would keep our head above the murky waters of mid-table.
Yes I slightly revised my post after you quoted it. We need a string puller though. There's always Thudd, if fit, and young Carroll, but reinforcements are called for.
 

Misfit

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Yes I slightly revised my post after you quoted it. We need a string puller though. There's always Thudd, if fit, and young Carroll, but reinforcements are called for.

Indeed. Always been a fan of Thudd but understand why others have their doubts. He's at an age now though - approaching his mid-20's - where he should be stepping it up a notch. If he can learn to use his passing, and his sheer size, more efficiently then he has the ability to replace Modric, imo. He'll never be a Modric but his control and vision are very good. Just a bit of a friendly giant and doesn't take games by the scruff of the neck. Now is his chance. If he can push on then we'll be in an excellent position. If not then his critics will proved correct. As you suggest though, he hasn't shown enough for that leap of faith to be tried. We need someone else in.

Carroll looks a lovely player. Looked a teensy bit Modric-esque. Still very young though and couple of seasons away from pushing for a spot in all likelihood.
 

JayX2A

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Apr 12, 2012
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I think we can live without a Modric replacement, its our front line, or lack of, what is worrying. We need top class, and we need it quick, very quick.

Levy MUST do what ever it takes to get this sorted.
 

lukespurs7

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Feb 21, 2006
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8th at best if Modders goes and Ade doesn't sign it'd be a disaster, no strikers and lacking a creative CM.
If Ade signs that goes up to 6th.
If we replace Modric and Ade signs then I think 4th-5th range.
If we bring in Ade, replace Modric, sign another striker and winger I think the sky is our limit.

Very very key summer for us.
 

sim0n

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Jan 29, 2005
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We seriously need a 20 goal a season striker ay the very least.
Ade not signed, Modric a no show, Defoe linked to Reading, and Parker facing achilles surgery,... if the window closes this way, then it all looks fuqed. Starting the season with Defoe as the only experienced striker on the books is catastrophic,... good thing the window has not yet closed :eek:
 

SugarRay

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Jul 6, 2011
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How on earth as our striking situation been allowed to hit such a low level!?

We have needed strikers, of the required quality, for effing ages it seems.
 

Mullers

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I don't think Levy will leave us in a situation where we don't have a Modric replacement or another quality striker brought in. If we do happen to find ourselves in that situation, then Levy isn't the man I think he is and we'll end up 6th or 7th or perhaps even lower.
 

JayX2A

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Surely AVB and Levy must have to go all out to get us the strikers we need. If they share the same vision, that vision is currently out of the top 4. Hope they actually have things sorted that we just don't know about.
 

gp13tot

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Optimistic - 5th
Pessimistic - 7th

So, 6th then?

Think we've got enough to stay away from the midfield pack including those that look like they could potentially push on higher (Fulham in particular) but if we lose Modric and don't bring in Ade and/or other top striker(s) then we will be too reliant on Bale, VDV and Gylfi for goals and if they get injured we'd be fooked

Can't see top 4 in any scenario other than Ade + 1 other striking option (top or top potential/first team squad) a Modric-esque midfielder and a new GK.
 

kaz Hirai

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start of the season is suddenly just around the corner, it's come by so quick.

we managed to do some early deals for once, but it seems the most vital ones will probably be last few weeks of the window type deal as usual
 

Spurger King

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I don't think Levy will leave us in a situation where we don't have a Modric replacement or another quality striker brought in. If we do happen to find ourselves in that situation, then Levy isn't the man I think he is and we'll end up 6th or 7th or perhaps even lower.

Two words continue to haunt me whenever our fate relies on decent transfer dealings - Frazier Campbell.

Ever since that clusterfuck of a transfer window I've been careful not to assume we'll do the right thing. Right now we're in a bad situation and no Spurs fan shoud be blamed for feeling anxious about it.

If Modric goes we need a decent replacement. None of our current players (and I rate Huddlestone) can fill his role. We may not be able to get a player as good as Modric, but we should be bringing in someone that can keep our plays ticking along with a combination of simple and decisive passes. If he goes and we don't replace him, that's a big fuck up.

The other obvious point to worry about is the striker situation. It's ridiculous that we're in this situation. With only Defoe (who doesn't really fit AVB's preferred system) and Kane (who has no premiership experience) Adebayor can hold us to ransom over his wages. Also City will be in no rush to help us out. Even if Adebayor does sign we're still weak in this area, and have nobody at the club who could fill in for Adebayor. Everyone could see this situation happening a mile away. We were all desperate for us to bring in a decent striker in January, but instead we got Saha in on a short-term loan. The sad truth is we haven't signed a striker permanently since bringing Defoe back.

Another situation we could see coming a mile off was the one concerning our keepers. Gomes is a liability. Friedel and Cudicini are on the brink of retirement. I'm really not convinced Friedel can keep his form going for another whole season.

The there is our strength in depth. We sold Kranjcar and replaced him with Sigurdsson, who in my opinion is good but not necessarily an upgrade. We're also letting a decent player go in Pienaar, whilst we're seemingly willing to keep hold of Bentley, Gio and Jenas.

About the only area of our team that gives me confidence is our defence. King was without a doubt my favourite player, however as much as we'll miss his undoubted quality, I think overall we'll benefit of having a regular CB pairing of Kaboul and Vertonghen (provided they both stay fit). Caulker, Dawson, and possibly Gallas are all decent back-up options.

In short, in order for this to be a successful transfer window we still need a minimum of:

Modric staying or suitably replaced
Adebayor signing
A similar type of striker to Adebayor signing
Another midfielder (preferably one who can play on either wing)

If we can add a new keeper it would be spot-on, however I don't have a lot of hope that we'll achieve the above. This will in turn leave AVB with a weaker team than we had last season, and would put him under a lot of pressure through no fault of his own.
 

Mullers

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Two words continue to haunt me whenever our fate relies on decent transfer dealings - Frazier Campbell.

Ever since that clusterfuck of a transfer window I've been careful not to assume we'll do the right thing. Right now we're in a bad situation and no Spurs fan shoud be blamed for feeling anxious about it.

If Modric goes we need a decent replacement. None of our current players (and I rate Huddlestone) can fill his role. We may not be able to get a player as good as Modric, but we should be bringing in someone that can keep our plays ticking along with a combination of simple and decisive passes. If he goes and we don't replace him, that's a big fuck up.

The other obvious point to worry about is the striker situation. It's ridiculous that we're in this situation. With only Defoe (who doesn't really fit AVB's preferred system) and Kane (who has no premiership experience) Adebayor can hold us to ransom over his wages. Also City will be in no rush to help us out. Even if Adebayor does sign we're still weak in this area, and have nobody at the club who could fill in for Adebayor. Everyone could see this situation happening a mile away. We were all desperate for us to bring in a decent striker in January, but instead we got Saha in on a short-term loan. The sad truth is we haven't signed a striker permanently since bringing Defoe back.

Another situation we could see coming a mile off was the one concerning our keepers. Gomes is a liability. Friedel and Cudicini are on the brink of retirement. I'm really not convinced Friedel can keep his form going for another whole season.

The there is our strength in depth. We sold Kranjcar and replaced him with Sigurdsson, who in my opinion is good but not necessarily an upgrade. We're also letting a decent player go in Pienaar, whilst we're seemingly willing to keep hold of Bentley, Gio and Jenas.

About the only area of our team that gives me confidence is our defence. King was without a doubt my favourite player, however as much as we'll miss his undoubted quality, I think overall we'll benefit of having a regular CB pairing of Kaboul and Vertonghen (provided they both stay fit). Caulker, Dawson, and possibly Gallas are all decent back-up options.

In short, in order for this to be a successful transfer window we still need a minimum of:

Modric staying or suitably replaced
Adebayor signing
A similar type of striker to Adebayor signing
Another midfielder (preferably one who can play on either wing)

If we can add a new keeper it would be spot-on, however I don't have a lot of hope that we'll achieve the above. This will in turn leave AVB with a weaker team than we had last season, and would put him under a lot of pressure through no fault of his own.
I would agree with most of that, AVB is using the current tour to assess what he needs, so no one knows if Bentley, Jenas and Gio will be part of future plans. I'm really giving Levy and co the benefit of the doubt and hoping they have learned from the Frazier Campbell debacle. They would really be stupid to let that happen again. There is no point getting a shiny new manager and then tying his arms behind his back.

I think out of the signings you listed we will get Ade and either Modric staying and replaced, we may get a keeper as well. Not really expecting a lot of players in because of the way we do transfer business.
 

Cavehillspur

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Its worrying, we need to get the fucking finger out and make at least 2-3 squad upgrades in key areas between now and 18 August, but I think we all know that's not going to happen now, another unsettled squad entering into the season.

It was pretty certain Modric would be off this summer, whats annoying is although his valuation hasnt been met (not the clubs fault), we dont appear to be anyway close to signing an adequate replacement, I cant for the life of me see us splashing out say 25mil + on a top replacement which in this day and age needs to be done, if Gylfi is passed off as Lukas replacement il scream (no offense to Gylfi).

Then there's Adebayor, a player on loan for the vast majority of last season, yet come this summer we cant agree personal terms, as has been mentioned many times on here recently you'd think the club would have thrashed out these terms with him over the course of that loan spell knowing they would be trying to sign him on a f/t basis this summer, just seems to be a completely disorganised mess.

The striker situation is a fucking joke, it really is and Im running out of patience with it being sorted this summer. Its so frustating as we are only a few players of competing at the top but we never seem to push the boat out that little bit further.
 
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