Have we got a deep enough squad?

[BringBack_leGin]

This is a fair reflection of where we are, imo, except at full back. I think our game needs flying wing backs, and Trippier and Davis aren't that. Yes, they're decent, but we really suffered when Walker left and Rose's injuries began.

I don’t disagree, but I also look around and struggle to find many fullbacks that particularly impress me. When you see Delph, Young, Alonso, Kolasniac, all as first choice at our immediate rivals it makes you grateful for what we have. Admittedly I look at Robertson and Alexander-Arnold with envy.

 

[Johnny J]

I don’t disagree, but I also look around and struggle to find many fullbacks that particularly impress me. When you see Delph, Young, Alonso, Kolasniac, all as first choice at our immediate rivals it makes you grateful for what we have. Admittedly I look at Robertson and Alexander-Arnold with envy.

Robertson and AA are examples of what we should have done with KWP.

 

[danielneeds]

Robertson and AA are examples of what we should have done with KWP.

It was out of necessity that they took a chance on TAA, though. Injuries to Clyne, Gomez etc.

 

[rio bryan]

The point re wanyama is we now have 5 CM and 4 of them are either pure DM or deep playmaker. The only CM we have with some attacking intent is sissoko. So of the 4 wanyama is the obvious one to get rid of it’s highly unlikely he will ever recover his best form. Our options would then be sissoko/newbie as ACM and Dier/winks/Skipp as DCM which is much more balanced.

You think Skipp is good enough for a top 6 team at the moment but a fit Wanyama isn't but you've now changed the goalposts now by saying he it is highly unlikely he will ever recover his best form ( inside info on that one ? ) yeah right !

 

[coys200]

You think Skipp is good enough for a top 6 team at the moment but a fit Wanyama isn't but you've now changed the goalposts now by saying he it is highly unlikely he will ever recover his best form ( inside info on that one ? ) yeah right !

Skipp is obviously not yet fully up to speed but is only 18 and will be 3rd choice DM.It was rumoured that Wanyama had the same knee issues as Ledley. I doubt there are many people on here who would be selling winks Dier or Skipp over wanyama. It’s pretty clear he would be the obvious one of the 4 to go.

 

[rio bryan]

Skipp is obviously not yet fully up to speed but is only 18 and will be 3rd choice DM.It was rumoured that Wanyama had the same knee issues as Ledley. I doubt there are many people on here who would be selling winks Dier or Skipp over wanyama. It’s pretty clear he would be the obvious one of the 4 to go.

Who has said about selling Skipp over Wanyama ? and if we didn't have so many injuries Skipp would be nowhere the first team, you seem to be like a lot on here who think our youngsters are a lot better than they actually are, if you think we would be good enough with Skipp as 3rd choice then you are delusional !

 

[Lighty64]

We lack depth in key areas. Also the quality of our depth is poor.

the trouble with having quality through out the whole squad is only 18 names can be involved in any 1 match. we don't pay the wages to players to warrant 7 players not playing regular.

yes I know there are plenty of games for rotation, but the teams that win the top prizes are teams that don't rotate as often, Leicester and Chelsea both fielded the same players week in week out due to no European matches. Man City did rotate heavy, but like I said we can't get close to what they pay

 

[Lighty64]

Why are you putting Skipp in there when he is our 6th choice ?

because he will always look on the biggest negative before a positive

 

[Lighty64]

I don't think we can use the cop out of injuries regarding the midfield, it was well known that Wanyama, Dembele and Winks have had injury problems over the last 2 seasons and the knowledge that Dembele felt he wasn't fit enough to cope with the demands of the prem. We decided to renew Vorm which was a frankly stupid decision considering the problem we have with quota and that was before Gazaniga stepped up to be a great 2nd choice keeper. We also should have seen that consistently Kane has suffered an injury after christmas to his ankle for the last 3 (now 4) seasons so how the powers that be couldn't come up with the hypothetical scenario of Son leaving and us being short if Kane suffered an injury I don't know. Was obvious we needed another forward who could also play across the line to be back up to Kane/Son, we needed another class midfielder. The top 2's fullbacks are also significantly better than our options especially given Rose injury problems.

We have depth but there's glaring injury issues within the team that decimate that depth very quickly and have done so for the past 18-30 months. If we ignore the injuries then we still lack a top class midfielder although Winks has a very high ceiling and is on a great trajectory but we need quality next to him.

you do know this is the 1st time Kane has injured his left ankle, previously it was his right, and it's just been bad luck it has coincided with Sonny going away.

agree with most of it, the trouble was at the time of giving Vorm another season it was due to 1, him still being considered 2nd choice, and 2, because we are not confident enough that our youth level is ready for the step up yet. Gazzaniga got and took his chance because both Vorm and Hugo were injured. if we had had to play our youth keeper if Gazzaniga had been injured or ill like Vorm was, and it could of cost us a place in the CL as Gazza played at home to PSV, might of cost us getting as far in the CoC, and points in the league.

the WC and no pre-season and not replacing and selling Dembele and Wanyama in the summer cost us, but selling either both or 1 was hard due to clubs not wanting to buy a player with injuries

 

[For the love of Spurs]

the trouble with having quality through out the whole squad is only 18 names can be involved in any 1 match. we don't pay the wages to players to warrant 7 players not playing regular.

yes I know there are plenty of games for rotation, but the teams that win the top prizes are teams that don't rotate as often, Leicester and Chelsea both fielded the same players week in week out due to no European matches. Man City did rotate heavy, but like I said we can't get close to what they pay

Given our injury issues that have happened not just this season but parts of last and normally being involved in 4 competitions I think most players would get ample time on the pitch.

 

[beats1]

Personally I dont think Skipp should be playing but thats because I think there are other players from the academy that perform better

But to the original question, yes our squad is deep enough.

Barcelona have just signed KPB because they know he would be happy to sit on barca's bench and provide cover for their front three. Yet we are complaining about our depth. If we signed KPB to provide depth people on here would throw their toys out the pram

 

[Dashy]

No.

 

[yido16]

Eniic need to have a long bloody look at themselves. Poorly run to be in this position invest or sell the bloody club, enough Is enough

 

[Mr.D]

Deep enough? Ooh eer, missus!

 

[spids]

The squad is deep enough it's just full of crap players.

 

[wrd]

I think the past 3 games pretty much end this argument, It's clear we do not have the depth to compete on 4 fronts.

 

[Ray Ray]

I think it's clear to say the answer is a resounding "No!".

We haven't improved our squad at all, we have a great first XI, but not the depth to compete on 3/4 fronts for trophies.

There has to better back up out there other than N'Kouduo, Llorente, a crocked Wanyama.

Only positive from today was Skipp looked he could perform against PL quality teams, and Foyth was immense, the amount of times he covered Trippier and stopped Zaha one on one was top class.

Penny wise and pound foolish springs to mind thinking about our squad, and what we could have achieved over the last few seasons had we invested more.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

No and at this moment I even hope the lallana jay todrigues rumours are true

 

[dtxspurs]

I think it's clear to say the answer is a resounding "No!".

We haven't improved our squad at all, we have a great first XI, but not the depth to compete on 3/4 fronts for trophies.

There has to better back up out there other than N'Kouduo, Llorente, a crocked Wanyama.

Only positive from today was Skipp looked he could perform against PL quality teams, and Foyth was immense, the amount of times he covered Trippier and stopped Zaha one on one was top class.

Penny wise and pound foolish springs to mind thinking about our squad, and what we could have achieved over the last few seasons had we invested more.

The XI has gone backwards, IMO. Brilliance of some of the individuals has held this season together thus far but I'd take the 16/17 starters over this group.

 

[WiganSpur]

Time and time again we hear pundits tell us we haven't got a deep enough squad so I thought I'd see how we match up to the other top 6 clubs to see if there's any truth to the statement.

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We definitely lack quality in the central midfield area, but in goal, defense and attacking midfield we look as well stocked as anyone. We also lack striking options, but then we've known that for some time. So is it fair to say we lack depth in our squad or are all the squads lacking in some way, and we're just suffering a terrible bout of injuries?

Pure numbers wise, yes. Quality wise? Absolutely not.