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Fabian Delph signs for Villa

Aug 9, 2008
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We dont need Delph we have Livermore who looks like a very very good propect i hope he gets some games next season, i think he could be a gem if harry fashions him right, he is strong, not afraid to get stuck in, confidence to let one rip and seems to be good in one touch play showing he has the footballing nouse, for get wasting money on delph and put that money into getting in huntelaar or a proper left winger as rose just dont seem he'll cut the mustard!
 

$hoguN

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Yes we do need Delph... He is a fantastic young prospect would could add something to the squad therefore he is required... Yes we have Bostock, Parrett and Livermoore but Delph is arguably further along in his development than Bostock and Parrett. I also feel I should remind everyone that football is a squad game and Delph may be able to add something to our squad for years to come
 

Kendall

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Delph is dope. I want him.

He apparently completely schooled Blackburn yesterday and is destined for big things imo. A real dynamo of a player, a 19 year old kid who is exceptionally strong in the tackle, has great pace, great positional strength, can run all day and has a sweet left peg.

He is everything O'Hara dreams of being.
 

kaz Hirai

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we need every good young player we can get since we have no chance of getting them when they are established. just hope we give these guys a chance this year, GDS included!
 

JonnySpurs

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Livermore and Delph are not even remotely alike. That said though, Bostock and Delph are arguably the two hottest young prospects in central midfield in england so it would quite something to have both....that said though I want us to be able to find room for both as they are very similar from what I've seen.

My expectation would be that we should send Bostock out on loan for the whole season as he hasn't had the league football that Delph has. Delph could be in the squad every week as backup to Jenas.
 

sidford

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rebrarb has said that our offer to leeds includes loan back for the season which makes sense. if we hold on to kpb then loaning out bostock would also be a good move maybe include an option to recall him in january.
last thing we should do is sign delph and leave him on the bench or match day squads for the season that wouldnt benefit him or us
 

thfc1989

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According to a few of my mates whoa are Leeds Season ticket holders, Delph has been good (not exceptional) at league one level. They rate him highly, but don't quite understand the hype. So based on that I seriously doubt he will be pushing Jenas for a starting place any time soon.
 

Kendall

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I would say loan Bostock for 6 months, we may need him in the business end.
 

Kendall

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According to a few of my mates whoa are Leeds Season ticket holders, Delph has been good (not exceptional) at league one level. They rate him highly, but don't quite understand the hype. So based on that I seriously doubt he will be pushing Jenas for a starting place any time soon.

and according to my mates and me he is different gravy and has taken the absolute piss at League 1 level. :p

League 1 is a lot more physical but he is one of the toughest tacklers in th league and has also found it easy to showcase his skills.
 

talkshowhost86

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According to a few of my mates whoa are Leeds Season ticket holders, Delph has been good (not exceptional) at league one level. They rate him highly, but don't quite understand the hype. So based on that I seriously doubt he will be pushing Jenas for a starting place any time soon.

Yeah my mate who's a Leeds fan says much the same thing. Good but not as good as Lennon was at that age is his analysis.

If we sign him I'm sure it's because we can see him developing well, but he certainly won't be threatening JJ's position for a while.
 

Kendall

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Yeah my mate who's a Leeds fan says much the same thing. Good but not as good as Lennon was at that age is his analysis.

If we sign him I'm sure it's because we can see him developing well, but he certainly won't be threatening JJ's position for a while.

That's just daft. Lennon was excellent at his age because Lennon is a rediculously fast, skillfull winger.

Delph isn't as good at that as Lennon, but who in the country is? Ashley Young and that's about it.

Lennon is now 22 and is nowhere near as good in the tackle or tracking his man has Delph is at 19, so it's just a ridiculous comparison, they are not even remotely similar players.
 

talkshowhost86

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That's just daft. Lennon was excellent at his age because Lennon is a rediculously fast, skillfull winger.

Delph isn't as good at that as Lennon, but who in the country is? Ashley Young and that's about it.

Lennon is now 22 and is nowhere near as good in the tackle or tracking his man has Delph is at 19, so it's just a ridiculous comparison, they are not even remotely similar players.

That's the point though isn't it? It's easier to be a winger than it is to be a central midfielder (where Delph supposedly wants to play). At 19 Lennon was ready to be a Premiership winger. At 19 I don't think Delph is even close to being ready to be a Premiership central midfielder.

I'm not saying I don't want us to sign him. I love our attempts to build a good youth player base. But I just think the idea of him pushing for a place in our midfield at the moment is a bit far fetched.
 

spurs4europe

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Would this be worth it given that we have Parrett, Bostock, and Livermore coming through the ranks?
 

talkshowhost86

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Would this be worth it given that we have Parrett, Bostock, and Livermore coming through the ranks?

Yes definitely because those players won't all come through at the same time (and in fact some might not come through at all).

I also think Delph may be slightly ahead of those guys just in terms of playing experience (although admittedly not at a high level).
 

Kendall

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That's the point though isn't it? It's easier to be a winger than it is to be a central midfielder (where Delph supposedly wants to play). At 19 Lennon was ready to be a Premiership winger. At 19 I don't think Delph is even close to being ready to be a Premiership central midfielder.

I'm not saying I don't want us to sign him. I love our attempts to build a good youth player base. But I just think the idea of him pushing for a place in our midfield at the moment is a bit far fetched.

Thing is, Lennon wasn't just 'ready', he took the league by storm to then go to the World Cup at the end of his first season.

To say that Delph isn't at Lennon's level at 19 doesn't mean Delph isn't ready for the Premiership - this is my point, Lennon was and is an exceptional Premiership player and the only young player we've brought in who has cemented a place in the first 11.

I seem to remember a lot of Leeds fans at the time saying Lennon wasn't Premiership standard when we signed him (indeed his only Premier League experience prior was in their relegation season) and even we signed him as an understudy to Routledge!

At 19 Delph was the best CM in the League last year for me, which is high praise indeed.
 

Legend10

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Having seen admittedly a limited amount of John Bostock over the weekend I would forget this deal. Bostock looks a real player to me and I'm certain if he was playing in League 1 he would take it by storm.
 

Kendall

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Bostock was certainly good for the couple of minutes he played over the weekend, but against Arsenal in the youth cup? a couple of other games I've seen he and Parrett went missing.... this at a low level.

So how anyone can say these players would definitely play consistently top drawer at League 1 level is beyond me.
 

Legend10

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Bostock was certainly good for the couple of minutes he played over the weekend, but against Arsenal in the youth cup? a couple of other games I've seen he and Parrett went missing.... this at a low level.

So how anyone can say these players would definitely play consistently top drawer at League 1 level is beyond me.

Its over a year since Bostock was good enough to play at Championship level, which in my opinion is a significant step up from League 1. From what i've seen of League 1 (which admittedly isn't a great deal) the standard doesn't look to great.

it's also arguable whether the Spurs Arsenal youth cup game is a low level, these players are arguably the best amongst their age group in the country. I wouldn't mind waging they could give most League 1 teams a run for their money and would possibly turn most over.

Do you think bostock wouldn't be in the team at Leeds?
 

Dr Know

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SSN have him down for a £8m price tag, personally I think thats way too much. I do think we need to invest in youth because with the new training ground and bits & bobs that go with that we may well make our own stars.

The question is at what price?

Could someone clarify this please.
I can't remember which thread but a member posted that we have 2 budgets one for the senior team and one for youth is that true?
 
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