Zeki Çelik

[ardiles&villa]

Spurs fans: WHY CANT OUR RIGHT BACK DEFEND????

*Spurs sell a great attacking right back*

Spurs fans: WHY CANT OUR RIGHT BACK ATTACK????

I dunno about great attacking fullback...the guy can’t cross

 

[emiley heskey]

I dunno about great attacking fullback...the guy can’t cross

Another statistic proving that Celik likes to go forward is his 3.02 crosses per game. This is one of the highest in Ligue 1 and benefits Lille’s system as they have Rémy and Osimhen as strikers. Both are good in the air and can attack the ball well.
Celik is the player who crosses the ball the most in Lille and he has a 30.8% success rate which is good but could be improved.
Lille makes 14.14 crosses per game with a 26% accuracy. This means that he makes over a fifth of the team’s crosses per game and has higher accuracy on average. Consequently, this shows that the team heavily rely on him for accurate crosses during the game.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

I think it depends what mood you're in as to what you see.

He doesn’t look like a modern day full back... running down the wing and crossing the ball. He prefers to play the ball over the top and to great effect. Having someone like this is just as beneficial as having a marauding full back bombing up and down the wing all game.

His tackling however is what worries me. As someone pointed out he likes to tackle on the front foot... in the EPL especially, if you slightly miss time the challenge then you’re instantly going to give away a free kick and more often than not in a dangerous position. I prefer players who stay on their feet like Walker.

 

[Japhet]

He doesn’t look like a modern day full back... running down the wing and crossing the ball. He prefers to play the ball over the top and to great effect. Having someone like this is just as beneficial as having a marauding full back bombing up and down the wing all game.

His tackling however is what worries me. As someone pointed out he likes to tackle on the front foot... in the EPL especially, if you slightly miss time the challenge then you’re instantly going to give away a free kick and more often than not in a dangerous position. I prefer players who stay on their feet like Walker.

You don't even have to miss time it the way players scream and throw themselves on the ground. It's even more obvious now without the crowd noise, but often when you see the replays there's very little, or no contact at all.

 

[mr ashley]

I won’t pretend to know this guy’s game, but if we’re doing a defense first, slower Wan Bissaka type I really worry for the starting 11 against a packed defense. With the inside forwards of Son and Lucas/Bergwijn there is a huge need for overlapping crosses and pace from the fullbacks. If there isn’t at least high level level pace or creativity coming from Davies/Celik it can allow the defense to narrow heavily, leaving only space in wide areas. Sounds like a recipe for 0-0, or even worse, leave CBs caught out for a counter attack as the fullbacks are forced to operate in final third space offensively and make mistakes higher up the pitch. Basic stuff, it’s why the much maligned Kyle Walker goes for 50m and why Semedo, Alphonso Davies. and Bellerin, despite making tons of mistakes, are still held in such high regard by their clubs.

I wish KWP was just a little bit better at everything he does. 10% more pace, dribbling skill, physical strength, tackling and crossing and I’d honestly feel comfortable with him starting 25+ matches.

You’re talking like wan-bissaka hasn’t been good for Utd this season?

 

[nedley]

He doesn’t look like a modern day full back... running down the wing and crossing the ball. He prefers to play the ball over the top and to great effect. Having someone like this is just as beneficial as having a marauding full back bombing up and down the wing all game.

His tackling however is what worries me. As someone pointed out he likes to tackle on the front foot... in the EPL especially, if you slightly miss time the challenge then you’re instantly going to give away a free kick and more often than not in a dangerous position. I prefer players who stay on their feet like Walker.

This could be coached though. For all Auriers faults he's been better at staying on his feet since Maureen's come in...

 

[Stamford]

Spurs fans: WHY CANT OUR RIGHT BACK DEFEND????

*Spurs sell a great attacking right back*

Spurs fans: WHY CANT OUR RIGHT BACK ATTACK????

Damn us expecting a modern full back at the club ?

 

[midoNdefoe]

I quite like Aurier. He’s not hacked anyone down for a penalty in ages, looks less error prone and has generally been more solid in his defending.
This guy sounds ideal to rotate with Serge.
As someone else said, it sounds like he would work well with using sessegnon on the left. Though having Lucas and Sissoko on the right allows for serge to be more attacking. Winks and Son aren’t going to quite do the same job for sessegnon.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Against defences that are sat back doesn’t a full back naturally end up in the attacking third?
One of this guys strengths is said to be his crossing, which is great if in areas of space as much as Aurier is.
He’s also a great passer of the ball, which again helps if teams are sat back.
Seems to be this idea you gotta be a usain bolt paced headless chicken to be a threat in attack.
His quick passing and accurate long passing is fantastic in counter attack. His accurate crossing and passing could be great if we are pinning teams back. Mix that with fact he looks seriously good at winning tackles then I’m so much more for signing him than other right backs we’ve been linked to.

 

[Cochise]

He's been better defensively since he was asked to barely leave his own half.

 

[midoNdefoe]

Against defences that are sat back doesn’t a full back naturally end up in the attacking third?
One of this guys strengths is said to be his crossing, which is great if in areas of space as much as Aurier is.
He’s also a great passer of the ball, which again helps if teams are sat back.
Seems to be this idea you gotta be a usain bolt paced headless chicken to be a threat in attack.
His quick passing and accurate long passing is fantastic in counter attack. His accurate crossing and passing could be great if we are pinning teams back. Mix that with fact he looks seriously good at winning tackles then I’m so much more for signing him than other right backs we’ve been linked to.

I like what you’re saying, but it only takes a couple of those aggressive tackles to be slightly mis-timed and he’ll be exactly where Foyth and Serge are: the loose-cannon bin, with an unshakeable reputation of being reckless and a liability.

 

[Gareth88]

I like the look of this lad

 

[mr ashley]

Damn us expecting a modern full back at the club ?

It’s not even that simple!
SC- Walker makes too many errors, we need a RB who can create....
SC- not trippier! Someone who can defend a bit as well...
SC- but not aurier! Someone who doesn’t dive in!
SC- but not a Davies equivalent, he’s too steady...
SC- but not Aarons, he’s too raw..
SC-but not Castagne, he’s only played as a wingback...
SC- but not Zeki Celik, he cant dribble...
SC-but not an expensive, complete RB, he’s going to blow our budget...

Now, I might be exaggerating, and I might have read “i wrote to the zoo” as a bedtime story for my 3 yr old, but I think we need to take a risk here...

 

[ardiles&villa]

Another statistic proving that Celik likes to go forward is his 3.02 crosses per game. This is one of the highest in Ligue 1 and benefits Lille’s system as they have Rémy and Osimhen as strikers. Both are good in the air and can attack the ball well.
Celik is the player who crosses the ball the most in Lille and he has a 30.8% success rate which is good but could be improved.
Lille makes 14.14 crosses per game with a 26% accuracy. This means that he makes over a fifth of the team’s crosses per game and has higher accuracy on average. Consequently, this shows that the team heavily rely on him for accurate crosses during the game.

I was referring to aurier when I said he couldn’t cross, I haven’t seen enough of celik to know

 

[Sweech]

I dunno about great attacking fullback...the guy can’t cross

Think he might have been referring to selling Trippier who can definitely cross.

 

[mill]

I like the look of this lad

Your type?

 

[SUIYHA]

It’s not even that simple!
SC- Walker makes too many errors, we need a RB who can create....
SC- not trippier! Someone who can defend a bit as well...
SC- but not aurier! Someone who doesn’t dive in!
SC- but not a Davies equivalent, he’s too steady...
SC- but not Aarons, he’s too raw..
SC-but not Castagne, he’s only played as a wingback...
SC- but not Zeki Celik, he cant dribble...
SC-but not an expensive, complete RB, he’s going to blow our budget...

Now, I might be exaggerating, and I might have read “i wrote to the zoo” as a bedtime story for my 3 yr old, but I think we need to take a risk here...

Give me a lightening quick attacking full-back who can get forward and create another layer to the attacks and our counter-attacks any day of the week over a "solid" failed centre-back that's been shoved out wide. Kyle Walker was seen as "error prone" but he was so fast that it didn't matter as he could recover when he got caught out of position.

Have said it several times before and doubt we'll ever see it, but I'd love to see Lucas Moura given a go at RWB along a three man CB defence.

 

[mr ashley]

Give me a lightening quick attacking full-back who can get forward and create another layer to the attacks and our counter-attacks any day of the week over a "solid" failed centre-back that's been shoved out wide. Kyle Walker was seen as "error prone" but he was so fast that it didn't matter as he could recover when he got caught out of position.

Have said it several times before and doubt we'll ever see it, but I'd love to see Lucas Moura given a go at RWB along a three man CB defence.

I’m surprised we’ve never seen Sissoko used there.
Upside: He strong, he’s relatively quick. He’s better on the right than in the middle. He’s good when overlapping.
Downside: He can’t cross. He doesn’t appear to be trusted to hold a position.

 

[fuzzylogic]

Moura at right wing back ?????

if you thought it was bad with teams targeting serge then you ain’t seen nothing if well played Moura there!

 

[teok]

Lots of modern full backs are converted wingers/forwards. It's become one of the most important positions because of how much of the ball they have. I agree that we want some one who is quick and can use the ball properly not some who can just "do a job".