Max Aarons

[SpartanSpur]

Yes, but to be fair, did the media reports not suggest Liverpool only offered £10 million for Lewis.

One would expect Norwich to stand firm after that lowball offer. That imo was a pretty derisory offer if true.

Yeah I can see that, I did think it was low but would we really expect Levy's opening bid for Aarons to be much different.

Looks like they got a cracking player for £12m instead unfortunately.

 

[Spursmatty87]

The only thing that worries me about this deal is that Norwich stood firm when Liverpool came in for Lewis. He was probably begging them for the move. Even if Aarons wants us Levy will still have to pay up.

Feel like Liverpool just tested the water without being 100% in for Lewis, they seemed to sign the other chap pretty soon after the links to Lewis.

 

[wirE]

The only thing that worries me about this deal is that Norwich stood firm when Liverpool came in for Lewis. He was probably begging them for the move. Even if Aarons wants us Levy will still have to pay up.

Norwich standing firm is good. There's not a "thing" that when a club gets relegated, the players goes for less or nothing just because. Liverpool bidding £12 mil is just taking the piss at Norwich tbh

 

[SpartanSpur]

Feel like Liverpool just tested the water without being 100% in for Lewis, they seemed to sign the other chap pretty soon after the links to Lewis.

Yeah you are probably right, they would have liked a HG instead but probably didn't want to go higher than they knew they could get Tsmikas for.

 

[cider spurs]

Yeah I can see that, I did think it was low but would we really expect Levy's opening bid for Aarons to be much different.

Looks like they got a cracking player for £12m instead unfortunately.

I doubt Levy would jump straight in and offer the circa £20 million they'd want.

Whilst my only reservation regarding Aarons is his physical aspect regarding his size and strength, factoring in his age, prem season under his belt, homegrown, then I certainly don't feel £20 million is too far off the mark in any case, if anything, I'd suggest he's most probably worth a bit more.

 

[phil]

What concerns me about Aarons (and also applies to Lewis and Godfrey) is that he was an integral part of a defence that conceded 132 league goals in the last two seasons. I just don't think he is a good defender.

 

[SpartanSpur]

What concerns me about Aarons (and also applies to Lewis and Godfrey) is that he was an integral part of a defence that conceded 132 league goals in the last two seasons. I just don't think he is a good defender.

I'd imagine Andy Robertson's Hull shipped a lot of goals too...

 

[razzmaster]

I'd imagine Andy Robertson's Hull shipped a lot of goals too...

Hull conceded 80 goals the year they were relegated with a defence containing Robertson, Maguire.

Norwich conceded 75.

 

[nailsy]

The Newcastle goal was the worst for me. Tried to clear it and and mis-kicked it directly to a newcastle player just outside the area

The recent Newcastle game? The one he played days after his brothers death? I think we should excuse any mistakes he made in that game.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

The recent Newcastle game? The one he played days after his brothers death? I think we should excuse any mistakes he made in that game.

What happened to Aurier’s brother was tragic and an awful thing to happen but for Aurier to declare himself in the right mind set to play he would be expected as per every other player to perform to the best of his ability. All players make mistakes but Aurier is ‘rash’ in his decision making whether it be clearances, tackles/fouls, passing and crossing. It’s simply unacceptable.

 

[Real_madyidd]

What happened to Aurier’s brother was tragic and an awful thing to happen but for Aurier to declare himself in the right mind set to play he would be expected as per every other player to perform to the best of his ability. All players make mistakes but Aurier is ‘rash’ in his decision making whether it be clearances, tackles/fouls, passing and crossing. It’s simply unacceptable.

It's not a decision that you can make yourself. When someone close to you dies you "have to be strong" for your family and to keep up appearances. He probably thought he was fine, and to be honest I thought he played pretty well. The few recent errors that have been highlighted show how rare they are, and all fullbacks that attack make some errors.

Hasn't made a single error as bad as Trippier not even chasing back in the Champions League after giving the ball away, that was shameful.

 

[nailsy]

What happened to Aurier’s brother was tragic and an awful thing to happen but for Aurier to declare himself in the right mind set to play he would be expected as per every other player to perform to the best of his ability. All players make mistakes but Aurier is ‘rash’ in his decision making whether it be clearances, tackles/fouls, passing and crossing. It’s simply unacceptable.

I disagree. It's obvious that he wouldn't be at his best for that game. I can't believe that anyone would hold a mistake in that match against him

 

[PrettyColors]

A bit harsh to be slating Aurier for the Newcastle goal. That said, I was rewatching 2nd leg Spurs-Leipzig highlights last night before the CL match and Aurier makes, almost to a T, the exact same mistake he did vs. Newcastle with a misplaced headed clearance which allows Angelino to skate past him for a simple cross and goal. It's unfortunate when it happens to a top defender, it's the rule than the exception with Aurier.
Speaking of Leipzig, watching Trippier for Atleti last night made me think: is there anything Aarons has, or potentially has, that a prime Trippier didn't? Trips was a bit taller, certainly had a better right foot on him (scoring in a WC semi from a FK) and while he made defensive mistakes, was probably just as good a dribbler as Aarons. Maybe 5% more speed, but with all the mistakes he makes, I think it's folly to assume that Aarons is going to grow into a defensive powerhouse.

For example, Aurier has a better vertical jump and probably 10-15kg on Aarons at the moment. He makes heading errors a lot, and I've seen Aarons do the same. I brought this up a week ago and was told that since Lahm and Moura, and Danny Rose were short, any concerns about Aarons aerial ability needs to be ignored (seriously it's a few pages back). I watched a bit of Norwich highlights - they concede a fair amount from crosses and Aarons has been caught out a few times with losing his man on a counter or crossing situation, or lost an initial ball in the air leading to a goal. Fans definitely slate him for it. Is his dribbling really that great? I don't think he offers this winger-like dribbling ability or pace that a Robertson or even a 2015-2018 Danny Rose could. I really wonder if he could actually be an improvement on Trippier if he comes good.

 

[Japhet]

It's not a decision that you can make yourself. When someone close to you dies you "have to be strong" for your family and to keep up appearances. He probably thought he was fine, and to be honest I thought he played pretty well. The few recent errors that have been highlighted show how rare they are, and all fullbacks that attack make some errors.

Hasn't made a single error as bad as Trippier not even chasing back in the Champions League after giving the ball away, that was shameful.

People see what they want to see. If they can't find a stick to beat Aurier with (in this case), a twig will do.

 

[Spurrific]

It's not a decision that you can make yourself. When someone close to you dies you "have to be strong" for your family and to keep up appearances. He probably thought he was fine, and to be honest I thought he played pretty well. The few recent errors that have been highlighted show how rare they are, and all fullbacks that attack make some errors.

Hasn't made a single error as bad as Trippier not even chasing back in the Champions League after giving the ball away, that was shameful.

Or when Trippier did bother to track back against Chelsea and then gave Lloris the eyes before calmly slotting away in the bottom corner under no real pressure. If Aurier did that, I can't even imagine the frothing at the mouth that'd be going on.

 

[wrd]

Or when Trippier did bother to track back against Chelsea and then gave Lloris the eyes before calmly slotting away in the bottom corner under no real pressure. If Aurier did that, I can't even imagine the frothing at the mouth that'd be going on.

When he did that we had to articulate ourselves very carefully not to scapegoat the poor boy who had just scored one of the worst own goals I'd ever seen outside of an england shirt.

 

[Sweech]

Hasn't made a single error as bad as Trippier not even chasing back in the Champions League after giving the ball away, that was shameful.

Had flashbacks last night watching Leipzig beat Atletico Madrid with the winning goal coming from a player getting in behind Trippier as he half assed jogged back.

 

[Mark_147]

It's not a decision that you can make yourself. When someone close to you dies you "have to be strong" for your family and to keep up appearances. He probably thought he was fine, and to be honest I thought he played pretty well. The few recent errors that have been highlighted show how rare they are, and all fullbacks that attack make some errors.

Hasn't made a single error as bad as Trippier not even chasing back in the Champions League after giving the ball away, that was shameful.

Totally agree! Serge had one red card, and two yellow cards all season. so stats don't back up someone constantly making rash challenges unless the refs just turning a blind eye.

 

[C0YS]

I don't believe that, I suspect we're not in an amazing place financially but briefing the media that we're skint is probably just another negotiation tactic.

I think we might see some expenditure, but nothing significant. The reality is that this is a particularly vulnerable time because we have no idea what the mid to long term effects of COVID will be. Short term, sure we could probably make some investment without too much worries. But if we are still dealing with limited attendance, or worse, two years down the line, then we might be in a spot of trouble.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Totally agree! Serge had one red card, and two yellow cards all season. so stats don't back up someone constantly making rash challenges unless the refs just turning a blind eye.

No its the silly free kicks that put you under pressure the silly errors he makes the lack of concentration and abysmal decision making - stats only tell you a little bit in football - if we cant find an improvement for him then we are not looking very hard