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joelstinton14

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This is a very good post, I think to be honest most frustration with this link is to do with how the club does it's business as much as anything else. As we saw yesterday with Hojbjerg it seems like we probably didn't sign someone that would magically transform the midfield (a la VVD and Liverpools defence) after all, we signed a guy that's an upgrade on Winks and Sissoko but probably still not exactly what we needed. One look at Allan for Everton showed the profile of DM we needed IMHO. Of course Allan wasn't available for £3m+KWP so we got Hojbjerg.

I'm now at the point where I hope Vinicius comes in as it seems clear to me that he's Jose's current top target. Barring that I'd like Edouard as I think he has the highest ceiling and do genuinely believe being the top SPL player often translates well to the PL.

Sorloth and Milik I'm more reserved on but if Jose is happy with them so be it. Leipzig being in for Sorloth is a promising sign as they have good scouts. That said part of me thinks this is just another opportunistic signing that is prioritised for finanical reasons more than footballing ones.

It’s difficult to judge because of the opposition but a player for his size he has very good feet. Seems a cultured player with added presence with his size and stature. Also if Leipzig are interested, with the talent they have developed over the last 5 years it feels like a seal of approval. Again, who knows though.
 

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He's better than no striker, i'll concede that, but not exactly inspiring. Come back to me at the end of the window where this club has made me cognitively dissonant and I'd extol the benefits of Clinton Morrison coming out of retirement for us.
 

wrd

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SSN update on this:

Trabzonspor president Ahmet Agaoglu has said that Spurs are one of the sides interested in signing Sorloth, but it would be a complicated deal as the Norwegian is on loan from Crystal Palace with the Turkish club having an option to buy.

Sky Sports' Michael Bridge on Good Morning Transfers:

"It's a potentially confusing deal for Spurs. He's on a two-year loan deal at Trabzonspor. The deal has the option to buy for £5m if he plays 50 per cent of their games this season, but it looks like Trabzonspor will buy him regardless.

"He was a Golden Boot winner at Turkey and no one at Palace would've expected this form to happen. Earlier this summer, RB Leipzig were interested in signing him and that came as a real surprise.


"Trabzonsport can make the loan deal permanent and then they can negotiate with either Leipzig or Tottenham but it's also worth noting he hasn't returned to training for Trabzonspor since the international break. "This really has come out of the blue."


One advantage is that it sounds like we wouldn't be dealing with Palace, and thus getting rival tax etc. Just depends on how much Trabz would want as a quick profit.

We love a fucking ridiculously complicated deal don't we? If there's no a sell-on fee, a loan entanglement, image rights or 3rd party ownership then it just doesn't float our boat.
 

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I don't agree that our crossing is shit - Aurier isn't even a bad crosser, it's just that none of our attackers attack the ball from crosses with any sort of menace. Even Kane, most of his headed goals are him placing the ball with that big beautiful bonce, he very rarely attacks a cross with any vigour. I think that's something Jose wants, as it's been a problem for years imo.

Also, sign Reguilon - then we have a left back that can cross - both the ball, and the half-way line.

Much like a good pass is only possible with a runner to make it look good, a good cross is only good if someone attacks it.

Furthermore, we are pretty much playing a 442 with Dele off Kane right now, so may as well play a 442 with two actual strikers and have Kane playing off a handful like this guy.

He's better than no striker, i'll concede that, but not exactly inspiring. Come back to me at the end of the window where this club has made me cognitively dissonant and I'd extol the benefits of Clinton Morrison coming out of retirement for us.

Who would inspire you more and why?

We’re finally buying premiership proven players.

With all the respect in the world, unfortunately Sorloth is proven to be total and utter dog shite.
What is the proof that he is total and utter dog shite?
 

Colonel Dax

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Honestly, I'm not bothered about which striker we sign as long as we sign someone (Deeney aside).

Our problem is in midfield. There is a serious lack of creativity, guile and incisiveness. Who is supplying the forward line? Lo Celso might be capable but he is nowhere near Eriksen's former level of productivity in the final third, and Ndombele seemingly isn't trusted.

Unless we sort that out (and we probably won't), it doesn't matter what 2nd choice striker we buy.
 

wrd

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If I don't consider the palace aspect of it and focus on the real important analysis of youtube. His finishing is awesome, like Bale across the goal with left footed belters awesome. I don't know I just have a suspicion this could be one of those deals which is done for 10-15 million that we aren't happy about and turns out being great. I really think we need Reguilón as @Spurrific suggested. If it meant we could do those 2 deals. I'd take this option. Guy has pace aswell which is great for a man his size.

I think it would make more sense to go for a low budget risk and see if we can make something from it considering 1. We have Kane, 2. Parrott will be back next season. If it doesn't work out then we can explore some of the 40 other strikers we have scouted next summer.
 

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Much like a good pass is only possible with a runner to make it look good, a good cross is only good if some


Who would inspire you more and why?


What is the proof that he is total and utter dog shite?

I’ve watched him play quite a lot and honestly he’s really poor.

Granted I haven’t watch him in the Turkish league, but this is the same Turkish league where Gomis who flopped at Swansea hit 29/30 league goals in at the age of 32/33.

Anyone that thinks he’s truly the level we should be looking at is crazy. We might have the greatest stadium in the world but it’s irrelevant if we’re picking up Palace rejects, which let’s be brutally honest, that’s exactly what he is, that’s a fact.
 

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Who would inspire you more and why?

Odsonne Edouard: much higher ceiling and ability to replace Kane as our no.1 striker when he leaves, much better all round player except heading.

Also, stylistically, and this isn't the most pragmatic point, I just really don't want our 2nd striker to be a 'long ball' option or one where we're just spamming crosses.

If he's one of two strikers coming in, I'm all for it. Coming off the bench when we're losing, it makes sense, but to give Kane rest and take a chunk of his minutes, I'd want a striker with a similarish profile.
 

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It looks like Jose wants a forward who is physically dominant, despite Harry's size he didn't lay a finger on Keane or Mina yesterday. Sorloth ticks a lot of boxes... 6'4" with decent pace & touch, good scoring record for club & country last 12 months, previous PL experience, fluent English speaker, young & ambitious. At the reported price, potentially half the price of CV, he looks like a decent option. A player like Sorloth would give us the option of playing Harry in the 10 position that Dele played yesterday. Harry naturally drops deep during games & likes to link play, unfortunately this often leaves big gaps further forward. Yesterday showed that we need more attacking options, personally would be happy if this deal went through.
 

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I’ve watched him play quite a lot and honestly he’s really poor.

Granted I haven’t watch him in the Turkish league, but this is the same Turkish league where Gomis who flopped at Swansea hit 29/30 league goals in at the age of 32/33.

Anyone that thinks he’s truly the level we should be looking at is crazy. We might have the greatest stadium in the world but it’s irrelevant if we’re picking up Palace rejects, which let’s be brutally honest, that’s exactly what he is, that’s a fact.
In what league and what period of his career have you watched a lot of him? Keen to know and learn as, like I said, I’ve not watched him.
 

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I’ve watched him play quite a lot and honestly he’s really poor.

Granted I haven’t watch him in the Turkish league, but this is the same Turkish league where Gomis who flopped at Swansea hit 29/30 league goals in at the age of 32/33.

Anyone that thinks he’s truly the level we should be looking at is crazy. We might have the greatest stadium in the world but it’s irrelevant if we’re picking up Palace rejects, which let’s be brutally honest, that’s exactly what he is, that’s a fact.
Before he went to Palace?
 

wrd

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Can I just say aswell, I find it hilarious how critical the overall mood is that we're exploring multiple options when we weren't happy that previously we were too fixated on one target.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Odsonne Edouard: much higher ceiling and ability to replace Kane as our no.1 striker when he leaves, much better all round player except heading.

Also, stylistically, and this isn't the most pragmatic point, I just really don't want our 2nd striker to be a 'long ball' option or one where we're just spamming crosses.

If he's one of two strikers coming in, I'm all for it.
Where did you watch enough if Sørloth to form a view of his all round play, and more so to an extent whereby you can compare him to Edouard? Bonus question: why is scoring from crossing a bad thing?
 

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I’ve watched him play quite a lot and honestly he’s really poor.

Granted I haven’t watch him in the Turkish league, but this is the same Turkish league where Gomis who flopped at Swansea hit 29/30 league goals in at the age of 32/33.

Anyone that thinks he’s truly the level we should be looking at is crazy. We might have the greatest stadium in the world but it’s irrelevant if we’re picking up Palace rejects, which let’s be brutally honest, that’s exactly what he is, that’s a fact.

When? During the 4 starts he got for Palace under Roy Hodgson, who persisted with Benteke up front who hadn't scored in 100 games, until he was forced to play Ayew and found out he was better? Or during his time at Rosenborg, Groningen or Midtjylland? Maybe you watched him quite a lot at his time on loan at Gent? Obviously you luckily didn't watch him this year as he was top scorer and 4th top assister in the league.

The funniest thing is, it's been widely noted that he's kicked on this year by people who actually watch football and don't just look at Wikipedia pages - you guys are just angry at the club and taking it out on this kid who wasn't given a fair crack by that dinosaur Hodgson.
 

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In what league and what period of his career have you watched a lot of him? Keen to know and learn as, like I said, I’ve not watched him.

I’ve got access to a Palace season ticket through work so saw him play multiple times in the flesh and always found him laughably bad. He was a joke among me and my colleagues so I’m personally finding it quite horrific to be linked with him.

Seems utterly deluded that 18 months later he could do the business for us.

Fair to say he’s torn up the Turkish league but that’s of no comfort whatsoever. When did the Turkish league last export a striker that was top 4 quality or the level we need to be looking at.

I think the people arguing for this signing saying it could work are the people that haven’t truly seen him play.
 

JD1

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When? During the 4 starts he got for Palace under Roy Hodgson, who persisted with Benteke up front who hadn't scored in 100 games, until he was forced to play Ayew and found out he was better? Or during his time at Rosenborg, Groningen or Midtjylland? Maybe you watched him quite a lot at his time on loan at Gent? Obviously you luckily didn't watch him this year as he was top scorer and 4th top assister in the league.

The funniest thing is, it's been widely noted that he's kicked on this year by people who actually watch football and don't just look at Wikipedia pages - you guys are just angry at the club and taking it out on this kid who wasn't given a fair crack by that dinosaur Hodgson.

4 starts? Does someone need to fact check that or have you already, using, erm, Wikipedia?

Not angry. He’s just obviously not the answer to our woes and never will be.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I’ve got access to a Palace season ticket through work so saw him play multiple times in the flesh and always found him laughably bad. He was a joke among me and my colleagues so I’m personally finding it quite horrific to be linked with him.

Seems utterly deluded that 18 months later he could do the business for us.

Fair to say he’s torn up the Turkish league but that’s of no comfort whatsoever. When did the Turkish league last export a striker that was top 4 quality or the level we need to be looking at.

I think the people arguing for this signing saying it could work are the people that haven’t truly seen him play.
So you’re basing your opinion on the 4 first team appearances in a relegation battle at the age of 22 in the first half of 2018 in his first ever taste of top league football, or on the 173 minutes across 12 matches (no starts) in the second half of 2018 also at the age of 22, right?

I dare say your sample size and the tangibles involved are somewhat unlikely to have given you much of a rounded view, albeit I accept more than I can truly form based on the 0 minutes I’ve seen of him.



 

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How does this work, he is on loan from Crystal Palace and yet they go with Batshauyi (excuse the spelling). If this guy was any good why wouldn’t Palace bring him back?
 

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I’ve got access to a Palace season ticket through work so saw him play multiple times in the flesh and always found him laughably bad. He was a joke among me and my colleagues so I’m personally finding it quite horrific to be linked with him.

Seems utterly deluded that 18 months later he could do the business for us.

Fair to say he’s torn up the Turkish league but that’s of no comfort whatsoever. When did the Turkish league last export a striker that was top 4 quality or the level we need to be looking at.

I think the people arguing for this signing saying it could work are the people that haven’t truly seen him play.
What’s the alternative? I’ve got access to a Benfica season ticket through work so saw him play multiple times in the flesh and always found him laughably bad. He was a joke among me and my Portuguese colleagues so I’m personally finding it quite horrific to be linked with him.

Seems utterly deluded that 18 months later he could do the business for us.

Fair to say he’s torn up the Portuguese league but that’s of no comfort whatsoever. When did the Portuguese league last export a striker that was top 4 quality or the level we need to be looking at.

I think the people arguing for this signing saying it could work are the people that haven’t truly seen him play.
 
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