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rabbikeane

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How does this work, he is on loan from Crystal Palace and yet they go with Batshauyi (excuse the spelling). If this guy was any good why wouldn’t Palace bring him back?

They don't have a recall option for him, and he has no interest in ever playing for them again.
 

BringBack_leGin

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How does this work, he is on loan from Crystal Palace and yet they go with Batshauyi (excuse the spelling). If this guy was any good why wouldn’t Palace bring him back?
Yeah they can’t. He’s for all intents and purposes owned by Traz now. Think of us with Lo Celso.
 

Spurrific

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4 starts? Does someone need to fact check that or have you already, using, erm, Wikipedia?

Not angry. He’s just obviously not the answer to our woes and never will be.

I've checked on Whoscored how many starts he had, because I actually know Palace fans who were disappointed at his lack of game time, so wanted to see how many times he'd actually featured - and I'm not making them up to support agenda-driven bollocks on here, not that I'd want to accuse you of that.

So your work give you access to a season ticket at Palace, cool. He played 300 minutes for them in the league at Selhurst - you were there, right? You saw in those 300 home minutes he played that he was laughably bad?
 

King of Otters

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One thing I do know, having watched a bit of him at Palace, is that - whatever other merits he may have as a footballer -mobility isn't one of them.

After watching us yesterday, I can't help but feel that having an immobile beanpole up front is not quite what this team needs.
 

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The Glimt v Milan matchup in Europa, assuming they both win this midweek, will be massive shop windows for both Berg and Hauge. Can see a lot of clubs in all sorts of leagues making moves for them if they shine in that game.
Yep, two genuinely very exciting Norwegian prospects and watching that Bodø/Glimt team has been absolute sheer joy, even if I dont really like watching Norwegian football.
 

Gspurs11

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Where did you watch enough if Sørloth to form a view of his all round play, and more so to an extent whereby you can compare him to Edouard? Bonus question: why is scoring from crossing a bad thing?

*Apologies* I edited a few bits in after and scoring from crosses is obviously not a bad thing, but it's limited and a low-percentage play.

Admittedly, only at Palace and a *bit* while in Turkey. My friend watches a lot of Turkish football and that's where I've got my opinion from; whether you think that meets your threshold for being reliable to pass judgement, I'll leave with you.

My opinion on Edouard is the 'eyeball' test mainly and I watch Celtic regularly, moreso over the last two seasons, and I haven't analysed the pair of them side-by-side statistically.

But this is a football forum and one where we're subjectively discussing football most of the time.

What are your opinions on him? And do you have an opinion on whether he's better/not better than Edouard and why?
 

DannyNZ

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Just can’t help feeling we’ve been down this road before, watching that you tube all I could see was this has all the hallmarks of Jansen.
 

BringBack_leGin

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One thing I do know, having watched a bit of him at Palace, is that - whatever other merits he may have as a footballer -mobility isn't one of them.

After watching us yesterday, I can't help but feel that having an immobile beanpole up front is not quite what this team needs.
Depends I guess on how he positions himself and uses it. Agreed that a striker not great on the turn can really stand out poorly, but he does appear to have good control and straight line speed. Plus it may be something he’s worked on and improved since those matches at Palace.
 

BringBack_leGin

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*Apologies* I edited a few bits in after and scoring from crosses is obviously not a bad thing, but it's limited and a low-percentage play.

Admittedly, only at Palace and a *bit* while in Turkey. My friend watches a lot of Turkish football and that's where I've got my opinion from; whether you think that meets your threshold for being reliable to pass judgement, I'll leave with you.

My opinion on Edouard is the 'eyeball' test mainly and I watch Celtic regularly, moreso over the last two seasons, and I haven't analysed the pair of them side-by-side statistically.

But this is a football forum and one where we're subjectively discussing football most of the time.

What are your opinions on him? And do you have an opinion on whether he's better/not better than Edouard and why?
Regarding his time in Turkey, I’m surprised that your Turkish friend doesn’t overly rate him given how many he’s scored, but fair enough, I’d certainly take his opinion over mine.

I have no opinion on him of any weight as I can’t profess to remember having ever watched him. All I know is that he’s scored a lot of goals with foot and head last season, and that the YouTube videos showed a quick, tall, powerful technically proficient striker with a composed finish at least when playing in Turkey.

I have no opinion on how he compares to Edouard either. I’ve seen nothing if him too, as I don’t watch Celtic as the idea of seeing a comparatively lower to mid table quality premier league side trounce league one quality sides every week doesn’t entice me. Like Sørloth , Edouard’s most recent career statistics and the videos of him accumulating those stats suggest a Good striker who has outgrown his league, has the raw ingredients for this league , and may or may not succeed in this league but certainly is worth a chance over signing someone in their late 20s or early 30s who has already peaked at ‘mediocre’ in this league.

But I’ve never proclaimed to have a preference for any of the links we’ve had. I’m honest in that for Edouard, Vinícius and now Sørloth all I have is online stats and online videos and to me they all look to represent around the same level of likely success or failure and have proven themselves so far at around the same level (kind of. To my mind Portuguese league > Turkish league > Scottish league).
 
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Gspurs11

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Regarding his time in Turkey, I’m surprised that your Turkish friend doesn’t overly rate him given how many he’s scored, but fair enough, I’d certainly take his opinion over mine.

I have no opinion on him of any weight as I can’t process to remember having ever watched him. All I know is that he’s scored a lot of goals with foot and head last season, and that the YouTube videos showed a quick, tall, powerful technically proficient striker with a composed finish at least when playing in Turkey.

I have no opinion on how he compares to Edouard either. I’ve seen nothing if him too, as I don’t watch Celtic as the idea of seeing a comparatively lower to mid table quality premier league side trounce league one quality sides every week doesn’t entice me. Like Forloth, Edouard’s most recent career statistics and the videos of him accumulating those statuu I sticks suggest a Good striker who has outgrown his league, has the raw ingredients for this like, and may or may not succeed in this league but certainly is worth a chance over signing someone in their late 20s or early 30s who has already peaked at ‘mediocre’ in this league.

But I’ve never proclaimed to have a preference for any of the links we’ve had. I’m honest in that for Edouard, Vinícius and now Sørloth all I have is online stats and online videos and to me they all look to represent around the same level of likely success or failure and have proven themselves so far at around the same level (kind of. To my mind Portuguese league > Turkish league > Scottish league).

He didn't say he was a bad player at all, just one very suited to a specific system. Going off a second hand account, for an option B, he'd be really effective and I'd be all for it. I guess my thinking is in the longer-term when we might need to consider a Kane replacement because he may want to leave.

I think I'm being a little unrealistic with Edouard and have a bit of a bias towards him due to my soft spot for Celtic. Don't know anything about Vinicius and had never heard of him before the link so we're in the same boat there.

At the end of the day, you are ultimately right: I'm still just stabbing in the dark compared to professionals whose job it is to make these decisions, with tons more expertise, knowledge and data.
 

al_pacino

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Cenk Tosun also ripped it up in the Süper Lig ?

And Soldado and Messi both scored in Spain but I'm sure Leo would do a bit better than poor Bobby over here.

And the obvious point I'm making here is, and it's not comparing Messi to Sørloth, is you judge players on how they play and what they can bring to the team not just what they did over a couple of games two seasons ago.
 

Hotspur88

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And Soldado and Messi both scored in Spain but I'm sure Leo would do a bit better than poor Bobby over here.

And the obvious point I'm making here is, and it's not comparing Messi to Sørloth, is you judge players on how they play and what they can bring to the team not just what they did over a couple of games two seasons ago.
It was a joke :banghead:
 

yido_number1

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I've checked on Whoscored how many starts he had, because I actually know Palace fans who were disappointed at his lack of game time, so wanted to see how many times he'd actually featured - and I'm not making them up to support agenda-driven bollocks on here, not that I'd want to accuse you of that.

So your work give you access to a season ticket at Palace, cool. He played 300 minutes for them in the league at Selhurst - you were there, right? You saw in those 300 home minutes he played that he was laughably bad?
I live right next to Croydon and probably 75% of my mates are palace and about 50% of those season ticket holders. Most of them find it absolutely amazing that they may end up with any money for him. He was woeful for them when he played and that is coming from a group that have had to watch Benteke playing in recent times.

We shouldn't even be considering dross like this at our club. What is the point in a striker that can't score? We moaned about Deeney, Costa, Giroud and others but they are all leagues apart from Sorloth.
 

Spurrific

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I live right next to Croydon and probably 75% of my mates are palace and about 50% of those season ticket holders. Most of them find it absolutely amazing that they may end up with any money for him. He was woeful for them when he played and that is coming from a group that have had to watch Benteke playing in recent times.

We shouldn't even be considering dross like this at our club. What is the point in a striker that can't score? We moaned about Deeney, Costa, Giroud and others but they are all leagues apart from Sorloth.

He literally just came off scoring 24 goals, pal - bit of a stupid thing to say isn't it? The Palace fans I know are actually knowledgeable about football, as is that HLTCO on Twitter, so I'll take their word over your mates who I don't know ta.
 

HodisGawd

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I think it's telling Palace, a club that has struggled with scoring goals for years and have Benteke up front, seem to have absolutely no interest in bringing their player back from loan. I appreciate they may not be able to, but it's not like anyone at the club is complaining. And yet, we want to sign him.

This feels very desperate. It feels like us flailing around in the transfer market with no clear plan. I hope obviously that Doherty and Hojbjerg prove to be shrewd additions, but we've had nothing to get excited about at all so far this window. Nothing. I look at Palace, and they've bought Eze. He may prove to be a failure but as a prospect, Eze is undoubtedly something that will excite their fans.
 

arunspurs

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It seems most here rate opinion of Palace of him, who never really played him as a lone striker in a single game....than RB Leipzig and Nagelsmann who openly said he wants Sorloth and his club is trying to do a deal.

Why is his time at Palace a metric to measure him ? He literally played nothing.

I have seen Palace fans regretting now, that he was not really given a real chance by Hodgson.
If Turkish league is not a measure, then Internationally - his game has also picked up in last 12 months - its almost like he gone on to a new level in his career. Sometime thats all you need to succeed. He is not my no1 choice - but Leipzig are showing serious interest, may be , just may be there is a top class player in him.
 
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