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His main strength, and you can see it in that video, is a sort of Dembele-lite ability to keep hold of the ball with 3 or 4 players around him. Granted, not PL players, but you can see why could be considered on the basis of that kind of thing alone.

As ever on here, if you call all the players crap and criticise everything about the club you'll be drowning in 'winner' ratings. That then seems to be infectious and it turns into an echo chamber of lazy opinions. As you mention, there are opinions formed where people don't seem to be making any effort in researching, or considering that experienced scouts are no doubt watching these lads in person and considering what they could do in our team, not Crystal Palace's

up until yesterday I would say it was the other way around. Every link(apart from maybe Deeney and some tried) and especially signings has been hyped up far beyond what they they’ve shown, if anyone has slightly questioned what we’re doing this summer and previous it’s been shouted down by the echo chamber who seemingly can’t handle criticism about the club or the people in charge in any form. There is nothing lazier than talking up every single link or signing especially if you haven’t seen them yourself or arguing against people that have seen them more than you because if your positive it makes you a better fan. Im not talking about you, me or anyone else. Just a general point.

I personally have no problem with Sorloth as a player and he could be a useful target man in certain situations, personally prefer someone a bit more dynamic but honestly another forward is the least of our problems as a team.
 

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Havent gone through this thread but Michael Bridge (spurs fan and SSN reporter) just said on SSN that Trazspansor have a 5m buy clause and can trigger that at any time. So he is effectively their player hence they're negotiating with Leipzig and Spurs for his permanent transfer.
 

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I think it's telling Palace, a club that has struggled with scoring goals for years and have Benteke up front, seem to have absolutely no interest in bringing their player back from loan. I appreciate they may not be able to, but it's not like anyone at the club is complaining. And yet, we want to sign him.

This feels very desperate. It feels like us flailing around in the transfer market with no clear plan. I hope obviously that Doherty and Hojbjerg prove to be shrewd additions, but we've had nothing to get excited about at all so far this window. Nothing. I look at Palace, and they've bought Eze. He may prove to be a failure but as a prospect, Eze is undoubtedly something that will excite their fans.

People say he wasn’t given a chance at Palace and has shown what he is made of in Turkey.

1) As per at Spurs and I assume other clubs... if you don’t perform in training to the required standard then you’re either sold or loaned out.

2) Has he done well in Turkey? yes. What’s the standard like? poor

3) Before going to Turkey he went on loan to a Belgian club where he also flopped

4) Some say he did well before Palace... yes but again it was at a piss poor level

In summary he’s had 1 good season in a poor league. He’s also 24 which isn’t old but come on at that age he should be a lot further along with his development.

He may be cheap which can be a good thing but we’re a club fighting for Champions League football and we need either highly promising youngsters or ready made professionals. We should be steering well clear of players with Sorloth’s background.
 

TEESSIDE1

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It seems most here rate opinion of Palace of him, who never really played him as a lone striker in a single game....than RB Leipzig and Nagelsmann who openly said he wants Sorloth and his club is trying to do a deal.

Why is his time at Palace a metric to measure him ? He literally played nothing.

I have seen Palace fans regretting now, that he was not really given a real chance by Hodgson.
If Turkish league is not a measure, then Internationally - his game has also picked up in last 12 months - its almost like he gone on to a new level in his career. Sometime thats all you need to succeed. He is not my no1 choice - but Leipzig are showing serious interest, may be , just may be there is a top class player in him.

A decent side showing an interest doesn’t translate to the player in question jumping from average to sought after. Look at Barca - they signed Braithwaite, a player who flopped in the Championship and has not surprisingly been rubbish for Barca too.

Sorloth is nowhere near the standard we need. Sadly we need 3-4 upgrades, not more stocking fillers.
 

JKendall13

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Probably not my first choice, but he was undeniably the best player in Turkey last year and has been playing quite well for Norway. His profile isn’t too much different than Carlos Vinicius at all.
 
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People say he wasn’t given a chance at Palace and has shown what he is made of in Turkey.

1) As per at Spurs and I assume other clubs... if you don’t perform in training to the required standard then you’re either sold or loaned out.

2) Has he done well in Turkey? yes. What’s the standard like? poor

3) Before going to Turkey he went on loan to a Belgian club where he also flopped

4) Some say he did well before Palace... yes but again it was at a piss poor level

In summary he’s had 1 good season in a poor league. He’s also 24 which isn’t old but come on at that age he should be a lot further along with his development.

He may be cheap which can be a good thing but we’re a club fighting for Champions League football and we need either highly promising youngsters or ready made professionals. We should be steering well clear of players with Sorloth’s background.

Ironically, a whole lot of that describes Josh King's career - another Norweigian we've been linked to (but generally people are ok with).

Granted he's had at least a couple of OK seasons in the PL, but he didn't even have one of them until he was around 25 (and didn't have a good season in any league before that tbh).
 

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up until yesterday I would say it was the other way around. Every link(apart from maybe Deeney and some tried) and especially signings has been hyped up far beyond what they they’ve shown, if anyone has slightly questioned what we’re doing this summer and previous it’s been shouted down by the echo chamber who seemingly can’t handle criticism about the club or the people in charge in any form. There is nothing lazier than talking up every single link or signing especially if you haven’t seen them yourself or arguing against people that have seen them more than you because if your positive it makes you a better fan. Im not talking about you, me or anyone else. Just a general point.

I personally have no problem with Sorloth as a player and he could be a useful target man in certain situations, personally prefer someone a bit more dynamic but honestly another forward is the least of our problems as a team.
I’d say the people saying they’ll stop supporting spurs or rip up their season ticket because we’re talking to this guy they’ve heard didn’t score a lot of goals at palace years ago, was much lazier.
 

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When I first saw the link I genuinely thought it was a piss-take. Chelsea fans trolling us.

To summarise the arguments in favour:

- he scored a few in the Turkish league
- Leipzig have shown an interest.

Without disuputing the value of his goals in Turkey, or whether Liepzig are actually serious, it still just looks like Janssen all over again but older and with more reasons to suspect he won't work.

I was happy we missed out on Watkins because I thought we would do better.
 

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A decent side showing an interest doesn’t translate to the player in question jumping from average to sought after. Look at Barca - they signed Braithwaite, a player who flopped in the Championship and has not surprisingly been rubbish for Barca too.

Sorloth is nowhere near the standard we need. Sadly we need 3-4 upgrades, not more stocking fillers.
Please don't compare current Barca management - no wonder you see Messi throwing his toys out of pram. Barca don't always scout good of late. They pay huge fees and get worse players. It makes all the more sense to look at Leipzig - club that was formed 10 years ago and CL semifinalist this season....all on the back of incredible recruitment year on year, window after window.
 

SheffieldAndy

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I think they’re probably joking.
I’d love to say I agree, but I’m not sure they are ?
I get what you’re saying though, but it’s just an extreme way of saying they don’t want him and think he’s shit.
I agree there is overreacting on both sides of a debate, there just seems to be a few people trying to objectively look at positives (and negatives) a transfer might bring, compared to a much larger number of people deciding it’s a terrible transfer based on such amazing metrics as reading someone else’s post on a forum containing incorrect information (for example), or deciding someone is shit (or good, but that correctly doesn’t happen) because of a league they play in rather than even looking at a player or his having ever seen any stats.
 

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Ironically, a whole lot of that describes Josh King's career - another Norweigian we've been linked to (but generally people are ok with).

Granted he's had at least a couple of OK seasons in the PL, but he didn't even have one of them until he was around 25 (and didn't have a good season in any league before that tbh).

I agree King’s figures don’t cry out ‘must sign him’ but with King and Wilson alike (I know he’s moved) have already shown they can perform to decent standard in the EPL. They’re experienced whereas Sorloth isn’t. I’m not saying we should only sign EPL players but there’s a difference between a highly promising youngsters or someone who’s performed well for several season in comparison to a one season wonder in a Mickey Mouse league.
 
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arunspurs

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I agree King’s figures don’t cry out ‘must sign him’ but what King and Wilson alike (I know he’s moved) have already shown they can perform to decent standard in the EPL. They’re experienced whereas Sorloth isn’t. I’m not saying we should only sign EPL players but there’s a difference between a highly promising youngsters or someone who’s performed well for several season in comparison to a one season wonder in a Mickey Mouse league.

Before joining Bournemouth at 24 (same age as Sorloth is now), King had 3 goals from 56 games for Blackburn...Bournemouth got him after they got promoted on a free transfer. So, one has to say incredible scouting and development of players by them.

To compete & replace/backup/upgrade on Kane we can go in 2 ways :
i) Buy experienced strikers in PL or top5 leagues at market price
ii) Get younger players of talent by scouting & developing.


We can either develop a no-hoper King like Bournemouth did or buy him after he has developed. My preference is i) but am not against ii). Sorloth for me falls me in 2nd category - a signing that could go either way. Least we can say is, club and international level he has started performing of late.
 
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Before joining Bournemouth at 24 (same age as Sorloth is now), King had 3 goals from 56 games for Blackburn...Bournemouth got him after they got promoted on a free transfer. So, one has to say incredible scouting and development of players by them.

To compete & replace/backup/upgrade on Kane we can go in 2 ways :
i) Buy experienced strikers in PL or top5 leagues at market price
ii) Get younger players of talent by scouting & developing.


We can either develop a no-hoper King like Bournemouth did or buy him after he has developed. My preference is i) but am not against ii). Sorloth for me falls me in 2nd category - a signing that could go either way. Least we can say is, club and international level he has started performing of late.

Thing is, people do say "we should have bought (insert Red Bull player here) before them".

If we went for Haaland before them, this is what we'd see:
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People would probably complain. One good season, poor league, no one else interested. They (RB) did their scouting and took a punt, and the rest is of course the old cliche.

Haaland is different because he was younger, but there are similarities. Those RB scouts know what they are doing, so we might be looking at the right type of player, regardless of his previous form.

As you say, we either i) or ii). Problem with ii) is:
- If we go within budget, we'll get a King or Wilson and not necessarily better
- If we want a Haaland-type prospect after they have been 'found', we're paying Bale type money.

I can completely understand why the ITK (from Dragon?) suggests we are interested in the i) type player, and especially if it's potentially as part of getting 2 of that position in.
 

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Thing is, people do say "we should have bought (insert Red Bull player here) before them".

If we went for Haaland before them, this is what we'd see:
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People would probably complain. One good season, poor league, no one else interested. They (RB) did their scouting and took a punt, and the rest is of course the old cliche.

Haaland is different because he was younger, but there are similarities. Those RB scouts know what they are doing, so we might be looking at the right type of player, regardless of his previous form.

As you say, we either i) or ii). Problem with ii) is:
- If we go within budget, we'll get a King or Wilson and not necessarily better
- If we want a Haaland-type prospect after they have been 'found', we're paying Bale type money.

I can completely understand why the ITK (from Dragon?) suggests we are interested in the i) type player, and especially if it's potentially as part of getting 2 of that position in.
That’s so relevent though. Doing it at 17 and doing it at 24 arent the same thing
 

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Ironically, a whole lot of that describes Josh King's career - another Norweigian we've been linked to (but generally people are ok with).

Granted he's had at least a couple of OK seasons in the PL, but he didn't even have one of them until he was around 25 (and didn't have a good season in any league before that tbh).
I dont even want King as a squad player for the national team, fuck no if I want him here.
 
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