Surely if they VAR the penalty they should also VAR whether the offside guy who pushed Dier was interfering with play, and whether the ref was right to give Newcastle a free kick for their player clothes lining outs, no?Common sense cannot be applied when the law is black and white.
The referees did not write the law (in fact I would guess the vast majority don't like it), but it their job to apply it, and unfortuantely for us they 100% applied it correctly in awarding the penalty.
The thing with common sense now a days is you're not allowed to apply it, even at work, you must follow procedures.Ah don't give me that per the laws bollocks, where is the common sense? Where is the clear and obvious discrepancy, Where is the ref looking at the foul in Diers back, where's the ref getting the call right on the initial freekick. Refs hiding behind a rule back are a bunch of fucking twats and they need to apply common sense and yes I know you're a ref and you might aswell join the fucks on BT always backing the ref but stop hiding behind a rule book and apply some common sense for the good of a game.
What makes this even more farcical is that, by the new rules, this isn’t a penalty because it hits his sleeve.
Nobody is going to refuse to score a penalty. Especially a club who may be fighting relegation. That penalty could mean a lot in terms of finances in a pandemic.It needs a collective effort from clubs, totally in unison. Either refuse to score from these penalties, that way no team loses out / benefits from these decisions. Or purposefully target payers arms instead of the goal, to show how stupid it is, and each game will end up 8-5 with 10 penalties.
But saying that suggests we have control over those things. Not even the best player in the history of football can ensure that every shot goes in, that they never hit the post, that the goalkeeper doesn't manage to make saves every single time. Sometimes you get goalies having worldies, or the team not quite getting the rub of the green. It happens. To then suggest that we failed in a duty to prevent the unpreventable is tantamount to saying that we are responsible.I think we were robbed by a bad decision but we could and should have put the game to bed earlier. We were excellent in the first half but poor in the second. I don't think we are to blame for the decision, but I think with improvement this team could be putting games like this away such that one unfair decision wouldn't be make or break.
Is that such a crazy assessment of the game? Am I losing my mind?
The key word there is 'except for the above offences', so closeness is irrelevant because Dier's hand was above his shoulder.
But if the refs do that they will soon find themselves demoted. They literally can't win, they either piss off the fans or their bosses.
Same, has massively fucked up my day, just don't want to do anything now.
I really want to play the 'should have put the game to bed' card but the way that goal happened is making it hard for me to play it.
Sometimes you just can't get that second and have to see the game out. Overall I think we did that well.
Firstly the free kick given in the first place is an absolute joke, if anything Hojbjerg was fouled. That is on the ref.
Secondly the rule changes for handball in both boxes are absolutely farcical and are being called out by pretty much everyone in football for that very reason. How can you be that out of touch?
Both of them have come together to screw us here. Absolutely gutting.
The thing with common sense now a days is you're not allowed to apply it, even at work, you must follow procedures.
The problem is with the wording/interpretation of what handball is. The majority of people seeing that decision would say no pen but the ball hit Dier's hand and therefore the ruling is a joke because no way was that intentional.
CL final Mane deliberately kicked the ball at Sissoko's out stretched arm and we know the rest.
for me too. Add the sky hyperbole, toxic tribalism on social media, financial doping, corruption, and so on. I have reached my limit after 30 years of religiously following football.Today wasn't just the ridiculous penalty, it was the free kick leading up to it, our handball not being reviewed and many more. In the normal world, we could sack someone or take a speeding fine to court but in football we are all powerless to do anything about it.
The team played well today and we were unlucky not to score more. This result is 100% the failure of FIFA, FA or whoever makes the rules and appoints referees, and the person(s) responsible should be charged with negligence.
Football is loosing its appeal with these decisions - well it certainly is for me anyway.