Match Threads Spurs vs Newcastle - Match Thread - Day 3

rez9000 · Sep 27, 2020

Rout-Ledge said:
I never said we were responsible for the decision, and I think you're going a bit far to suggest that factoring in the possibility of a bad decision into a game plan is "the very essence of nonsense".

What about Karl Darlow making 10 saves? Is that our fault too?

Cornpattbuck · Sep 27, 2020

C0YS said:
People can wtf me as much as you want, but do it after reading the laws of the game.

Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

I don't want to copy the image in there in case there is some copyright issue for the forum, but you'll see what I mean by the upper part of the arm not counting towards handball.

Sorry, I know you know the rules. But it's fucking mental that isn't classed as a handball anymore. About the only one of the recent "handballs" that was a handball! It's just stupid.

Deleted member 27995 · Sep 27, 2020

MK Yid said:
And they have given that leeway as long as the arm is next to the body and not out.

But if arm is away from the body, then ricochets, accidental, ball to hand, hitting from behind are totally irrelevant, it is a penalty now.

Per the laws it is a penalty (and has been given on the continent in recent years)

He can't see the ball ... What in fucks names are you on about?

Wizzy77 · Sep 27, 2020

One mini positive i can possibly take from the game is we will try harder for a killer second goal, Mou will remind the players of this match and possible rubbish implementation of the handball rule.

Oh Teddy Teddy · Sep 27, 2020

spurs mental said:

What makes this even more farcical is that, by the new rules, this isn’t a penalty because it hits his sleeve.

joelstinton14 · Sep 27, 2020

Hopefully the Chairman, Managers and Club Captains of each premier League side can pen a letter to the FA, UEFA and FIFA or whoever is responsible and tell them to ducking do one. We’re only three games into the season call it quits now, draw a line under it and put in place new rules. It not hard for VAR to suggest the ref go the monitor and use his only common sense

stov · Sep 27, 2020

RikkiRocket said:
If the result had gone the other way and we’d secured an away point this way. Would we be laughing and making up a song about VAR ?

bet we wouldnt give a monkeys. Yes it’s a shocker but it is the rules.

I would be embarrassed. Slightly happy - but wouldn't want to linger on the subject.

wrd · Sep 27, 2020

MK Yid said:
And they have given that leeway as long as the arm is next to the body and not out.

But if arm is away from the body, then ricochets, accidental, ball to hand, hitting from behind are totally irrelevant, it is a penalty now.

Per the laws it is a penalty (and has been given on the continent in recent years)

Ah don't give me that per the laws bollocks, where is the common sense? Where is the clear and obvious discrepancy, Where is the ref looking at the foul in Diers back, where's the ref getting the call right on the initial freekick. Refs hiding behind a rule back are a bunch of fucking twats and they need to apply common sense and yes I know you're a ref and you might aswell join the fucks on BT always backing the ref but stop hiding behind a rule book and apply some common sense for the good of a game.

C0YS · Sep 27, 2020

Everlasting Seconds said:
We should have scored enough goals to win. Erroneous decisions happen and that's part of the team to have the whereabouts to take that possibility into account and score that second goal.

We didn't score enough to win. But I think what makes it frustrating is it wasn't an error, it was the correct decision. And how can something so random be now part of the laws of the game. That's what's frustrating. That this is now some randomness that will exist in the game until it's fixed.

Trotter · Sep 27, 2020

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
Mourinho is absolutely right with what he says about there being a clear discrepancy between the decisions the “traditional” top 4 get compared to the rest of the league.

I remember the Premier League jumping to Chelsea’s side when VAR “incorrectly” missed a Lo Celso red card (which IMO was not a red card) and issuing an apology whilst the match was still going.

I don’t seem to remember the Premier League apologising to us for taking away Kane’s goal which VAR incorrectly adjudged the ball to have hit Lucas’ arm in the build up?

I also don’t expect the Premier League to apologise today for incorrectly awarding a penalty when the rules literally fucking state that if the player has his back turned he should be given leeway.

Tell me to put on my tin foil hat or whatever, I couldn’t care less, but the referees in this league are artificially useless. They’ve been given a mandate to protect their “top” clubs.

Well why should they apologise
The Kane goal was correctly ruled out for Lucas handball last season per the laws
And the penalty was correctly awarded today per the laws.
They did apologise when Kane was denied a penalty against Bournemouth.

Fucking hell, it is banging heads territory in here. Learn the FUCKING laws.

El Cakey · Sep 27, 2020

What’s the ramifications for Kane now? Let’s hope Sonnys not hurt in addition to a suspension ??‍

St José Dominguez · Sep 27, 2020

I don’t know when ball to hand vs hand to ball was ever that controversial and argued about. They’ve been adjusting the rules year on year just to give themselves something to do.

BringBack_leGin · Sep 27, 2020

mquinn73 said:
Like I give a damn what you or anyone else on here thinks. Season ticket holder for almost 20 years so I'll trust my opinion over 99% of the posters on this site.

This thread is a joke. Bitching and moaning over a fucking rule. Typical.

Yeah, it's a dreadful rule but it was there before the game and it'll be there after the game. Lazy to point your finger at the referee, the one thing that Spurs can't control or influence.

Fact is, we had almost 20 shots on goal and scored once. We couldn't deal with has-been Andy Carroll. Dier missed an open header on goal - and fact is he's a complete liability every single game. Those are the things that Spurs can control.

But yeah, this thread is full of "fans" who want to cry into their pint over a rule and hit the spam button on any post that doesn't fit with their view. Thankfully most of those "fans" never go to a game....

What does the length of your season ticket holding have to do with anything? I’ve been going longer, as have several others here, and it means the square role of fuck all, we’re all entitled to our views regardless of how fortunate or not we’ve been in the amount we’ve been able to go.

Rout-Ledge · Sep 27, 2020

rez9000 said:
What about Karl Darlow making 10 saves? Is that our fault too?

When did I say anything was our fault? You are intentionally misinterpreting me and I'm not sure why.

rez9000 · Sep 27, 2020

cliff jones said:
What is good game management?

Well it can’t be conceding free kicks and gradually retreating against the hoof to Carroll.

Only themselves to blame.

one goal isnever enough has been around longer than this stupid rule or var for good reason

Yes, of course, you're right. I think we should all petition the PL to remove two of Leeds' three points, because 1 goal is never enough.

chrissivad · Sep 27, 2020

C0YS said:
People can wtf me as much as you want, but do it after reading the laws of the game.

Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

I don't want to copy the image in there in case there is some copyright issue for the forum, but you'll see what I mean by the upper part of the arm not counting towards handball.

Even on there they use an image of Tottenham (Dier) making afoul...

Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close

No idea what they class as close. That's the only part that could stop it being a pen. Apart from an offside

C0YS · Sep 27, 2020

RikkiRocket said:
If the result had gone the other way and we’d secured an away point this way. Would we be laughing and making up a song about VAR ?

bet we wouldnt give a monkeys. Yes it’s a shocker but it is the rules.

I think some people would. I've generally found these decisions take me out of the game regardless of who is playing, or who it's against. I think these issues for a considerable number of people goes above club loyalty.

Oh Teddy Teddy · Sep 27, 2020

El Cakey said:
What’s the ramifications for Kane now? Let’s hope Sonnys not hurt in addition to a suspension ??‍

Kane wasn’t sent off

wrd · Sep 27, 2020

MK Yid said:
Well why should they apologise
The Kane goal was correctly ruled out for Lucas handball last season per the laws
And the penalty was correctly awarded today per the laws.
They did apologise when Kane was denied a penalty against Bournemouth.

Fucking hell, it is banging heads territory in here. Learn the FUCKING laws.

Because common sense can be fucking applied you robot, honestly do they brain wash you at ref camp?

L-man · Sep 27, 2020

We’re on course for over double the record amount of pens in a Premier League season but the rules are the rules and we have to enforce them!

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