The Daily ITK Discussion Thread Aug 17 2012 - THE SMALL KNIGHT RISES (Part 2)

g_harry · Aug 17, 2012

lukadownthelane said:
I agree with some of that but surely there are strikers out there that we could have got earlier

We should have got a good striker with potential in July eg De Jong and then spend the rest of the summer looking for the mega striker This may have also improve our negotiating position too whereas now we have no position of strength

Agree totally

SugarRay · Aug 17, 2012

If anyone wants advice on neg repping....insult Andy Murray...the red crosses go through the roof!

joethfc · Aug 17, 2012

Spurger King said:
Well neither Defoe or Kane are suited in a system as the lone striker.

I think Kane probably is but he's not up to standard yet.

greaves · Aug 17, 2012

spud said:
It won't affect you life to have red minus numbers next to your name. It won't make you any less likely to get laid/get a good job/win the lottery.

You say that. All three happened to me this week when I got neg repped for wanting Juande back. Lost my girlfriend, got sacked, and forgot to pay for my lottery ticket. The winning number. 140 million quid down the swanny. So yeah. It matters big time. I'm not coming on here again. And as for Juande, he can fuck right off.

Spurger King · Aug 17, 2012

joethfc said:
I think Kane probably is but he's not up to standard yet.

From what I've seen of him he tends to play deeper.

I'd love to see him do well for us. However this is a ridiculous strategy that could easily go tits up with one long-term injury. If Kane is really going to be our 3rd striker next season I suspect that has more to do with necessity rather than design.

Mr Pink · Aug 17, 2012

More likely Defoe being sold and two coming in I would of thought in order for that to be feasible.

Parkie · Aug 17, 2012

bugsdad posted the following on the Twitter thread.
Could put the cat among the pigeons if it is true.

acc to this, it apparently says Mourinho has pulled the plug after Levy changed the price and Modric is on his way back to London...

http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijest...t-madridu-mourinho-odustao-luke-clanak-442907
anyone speak Espanol?
anyone able to verify if that is what it says?
Or Croat?

Google translate says:
According to latest information from Madrid, was abruptly canceled soap opera about Luka Modric moving to Real Madrid, and with a completely unexpected outcome: the transfer (for now) will not be anything!
Specifically, the source is near to our team, the transfer is stopped Jose Mourinho after Daniel Levy once again started to raise prices, even though the clubs are reportedly already agreed on the sum of 35 million.
When he heard that Jose Levy has new desires, banged his fist on the table and say - enough!
Translation
As much as he cared to come to Port Real, Jose does not allow itself to be insatiable Tottenham chairman pulls the nose.
He pulled a drastic move and probably very disappointed that the Port of London awaits cue to fly to Madrid to sign the contract.
True, a transitional period lasting until 31 August and when these great deals wiser, reversals are always possible. But the mood of people in Madrid, things are not developing in Modric favor - his dream at the moment "frozen at -35" with little chances for something to change ...
For more information read the printed edition of Vecernji list from Saturday.

Can't tell if the article is a pisstake or that is the Google translation. Sounds like the full story is being trailed for tomorrow.

spurs mental · Aug 17, 2012

Dick Dastardly said:
Sorry, but I totally disagree with this. I've lost count of the number of transfer windows in the past few years we've come out of in a worse state than when we went in. If there's one thing I trust Levy to do it's prioritise his obsession for getting the best deal over ensuring we get the players we desperately need.

You don't have to be sorry, it's your opinion.

We are not going to come out a worse state than we were in coming into this summer window, in January we did ok, although we didn't need much , we were flying at the time.

The summer before, we got Ade in and held on to Modric. And we got VDV in the summer previous to that.

Ok, we've needed a striker pretty much since Berbatov left, but we had a fantastic one in Ade last season and clearly trying hard again this summer for him.

I'm not really sure what windows you are referring to, except for the one where we lost Keane and Berbatov in the same summer, that was a mare but then again so was the whole Ramos fiasco really.

Also, Levy got around 16-20 million for Bent I'm led to believe, plus I think we got some sort of sell on fee after he moved to Villa, and he also pretty much recouped what we paid for Pavlyuchenko. That's not exactly something to moan about.

King of Otters · Aug 17, 2012

joethfc said:
I think Kane probably is but he's not up to standard yet.

I tend to think that this system requires the the CF to have a fair bit of mobility. Unfortunately Kane is slower than a spastic in a magnet factory.

King of Otters · Aug 17, 2012

Ha, good. Stick the little shite in the reserves. We're not going to get Moutinho anyway.

SpurSince57 · Aug 17, 2012

lukadownthelane said:
I agree with some of that but surely there are strikers out there that we could have got earlier

We should have got a good striker with potential in July eg De Jong and then spend the rest of the summer looking for the mega striker This may have also improved our negotiating position too whereas now we have no position of strength

Do you really think we haven't checked out de Jong?

Ledley's Right Foot · Aug 17, 2012

Spurger King said:
Had to give that an 'optimistic' rating because, well, that is a VERY optimistic assessment of our current situation.

I generally don't disagree with you about the quality of our strikers over the last season. They've not been brilliant, but also far from terrible (though obviously the season before last was a problem in terms of goals). However we cannot afford to wait on just one striker. Both Pav and Crouch could play up front on their own (though Pav was still far from ideal). When Crouch went we had Adebayor who could obviously lead the line (with Pav to step in if necessary). When we sold Pav we replaced him with Saha, who again could lead the line if needed.

Now we're left with Defoe - the one striker of the last few seasons that is completely ill-suited for that role. We need a striker like Adebayor, AND another striker that can step in when he's injured or playing in the African Cup of Nations in a few months.

That's not just a case of it being "hey, those are the breaks", it's some pretty poor forward planning from the highest levels at the club that have left us in a difficult bargaining position, and going into the first game in a compromised position of our own making.

I hear you, I do. I guess I'm just optimistic about things at the moment. You're right, Defoe couldn't lead the line like Ade or Pav could, if we play football like we did under redknapp. Yes it was good football but we also relied upon some direct football as well. I remember a season of long balls to Crouch under Redknapp and whilst it improved with Ade last season, we still did it. When we play like that, Defoe can't lead the line. However, if we pay a different kind of football. Passing to feet, short, quick, and no long balls then he is just as capable as anyone of leading our attack. If Bale puts some balls in from the flanks we'll have Defoe VDV and Sig waiting for them in the centre. If that's how AVB set's us out then Defoe is more than capable of playing more for us. He gets a bit of grief on here but Defoe is a top striker, if played the right way. That for me means we could only need one more striker with Kane and Coubilaly (the later is looking great and ready for the step up, IMHO) as back ups. Optimistic? yes, a little. But what I was arguing in the post is that we haven't been searching for a striker for 3 years, really it's just been for this transfer window and I believe it'll be sorted by the end of it. In that sense I don't think there's been a lack of planning, especially in the context of a change of manager, I think we're doing alright.

SpurSince57 · Aug 17, 2012

Pavlyuchenko a striker of great dimension? Que?

Hoopspur · Aug 17, 2012

Parkie said:
bugsdad posted the following on the Twitter thread.
Could put the cat among the pigeons if it is true.

acc to this, it apparently says Mourinho has pulled the plug after Levy changed the price and Modric is on his way back to London...

http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijest...t-madridu-mourinho-odustao-luke-clanak-442907
anyone speak Espanol?
anyone able to verify if that is what it says?
Or Croat?

.

The rest of their site seems true enough. Translated a couple of other articles. Will be fun tomorrow I guess.

Spriggan · Aug 17, 2012

Parkie said:
bugsdad posted the following on the Twitter thread.
Could put the cat among the pigeons if it is true.

acc to this, it apparently says Mourinho has pulled the plug after Levy changed the price and Modric is on his way back to London...

http://www.vecernji.hr/sport/vijest...t-madridu-mourinho-odustao-luke-clanak-442907
anyone speak Espanol?
anyone able to verify if that is what it says?
Or Croat?

Google translate says:
According to latest information from Madrid, was abruptly canceled soap opera about Luka Modric moving to Real Madrid, and with a completely unexpected outcome: the transfer (for now) will not be anything!
Specifically, the source is near to our team, the transfer is stopped Jose Mourinho after Daniel Levy once again started to raise prices, even though the clubs are reportedly already agreed on the sum of 35 million.
When he heard that Jose Levy has new desires, banged his fist on the table and say - enough!
Translation
As much as he cared to come to Port Real, Jose does not allow itself to be insatiable Tottenham chairman pulls the nose.
He pulled a drastic move and probably very disappointed that the Port of London awaits cue to fly to Madrid to sign the contract.
True, a transitional period lasting until 31 August and when these great deals wiser, reversals are always possible. But the mood of people in Madrid, things are not developing in Modric favor - his dream at the moment "frozen at -35" with little chances for something to change ...
For more information read the printed edition of Vecernji list from Saturday.

Can't tell if the article is a pisstake or that is the Google translation. Sounds like the full story is being trailed for tomorrow.

Not sure I buy this, why would Levy mess with the one transfer that our entire window depends on? The domino effect would have a potentially ruinous effect on not just deals in the pipeline, but squad morale too! He may be a tough negotiator, but he always seems to look after the best interests of the club, so this smacks of Croatian/Spanish bullshit to me, trying to make us look bad because their darling Rat Boy didn't get everything his own way, kind of like Stimac was trying to do last week! Assholes

McFlash · Aug 17, 2012

"Tottenham chairman pulls the nose"

Lol

gibbospurs · Aug 17, 2012

Levy is a bell end

shaqTHFC · Aug 17, 2012

Mr Pink said:
More likely Defoe being sold and two coming in I would of thought in order for that to be feasible.

We have enough trouble bringing in one striker let alone two. I agree with you 100% but I can't see it happening. Ade, Leandro, and Kane wouldn't be too bad. Perhaps there's something in Kane that we haven't seen but AVB has. I see his point of 3 strikers but I was hoping the young one would be Leandro.

Mouse! · Aug 17, 2012

Kane naturally prefers to run from deep than lead the line, he's actually pretty similar to Gylfi. He's still young enough to learn about playing up top on his own and bringing others into play though so hopefully this is something he'll work on. Has all the attributes to play up top on his own, possibly just needs to bulk up a bit.

Only 1 Spurs · Aug 17, 2012

Oh my my, lol Modric will be having at hissy fit all the way home...hence more negative press lol....Madrid have prob seen a cheaper option!!.

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