The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 17th June 2012

Archibald&Crooks · Jun 17, 2012

Indisguise said:
The mind boggles as to where you're pissing now...

Some bloke posted Twitter earlier. Lets just say his mums taking a shower.

Bus-Conductor · Jun 17, 2012

ryantegan said:
I think that the biggest factor is identifying the best man available to use the new training facilities. They are world class and would assist any coach in performing at the best of his abilities. We could then see the fruits in terms of the young stars coming through

I know it's all very lovely having some nice new facilities but really this is being a bit overplayed isn't it ? How good were Swansea's training facilities that Rodgers taught a bunch of 3rd/4th tier footballers how to outplay seasoned EPL teams on ?

We are not going to attract a single player because we have a nicer Jacuzzi than Chelsea are we ? At the end of the day great coaches just need some grass don't they ?

worcestersauce · Jun 17, 2012

why is Jacob ITK not ITK? people seem to want a name or nothing. touchy lot of buggers on here sometimes.

cabinfever · Jun 17, 2012

Tiffers said:
That's a bit cheeky? Some of us older fans, i'm 73, can use computers and follow the gossip and ITK information

Exactly, us oldies are everywhere!!

Scott Spur · Jun 17, 2012

Archibald&Crooks said:
Some bloke posted Twitter earlier. Lets just say his mums taking a shower.

And if said numpty posted Harry Hotspur as ITK?

KingNick · Jun 17, 2012

Bus-Conductor said:
I know it's all very lovely having some nice new facilities but really this is being a bit overplayed isn't it ? How good were Swansea's training facilities that Rodgers taught a bunch of 3rd/4th tier footballers how to outplay seasoned EPL teams on ?

We are not going to attract a single player because we have a nicer Jacuzzi than Chelsea are we ? At the end of the day great coaches just need some grass don't they ?

Absolutely right. Anyone would think that previous managers have been forced to work on training pitches that resemble the Somme.

PT · Jun 17, 2012

Bus-Conductor said:
I know it's all very lovely having some nice new facilities but really this is being a bit overplayed isn't it ? How good were Swansea's training facilities that Rodgers taught a bunch of 3rd/4th tier footballers how to outplay seasoned EPL teams on ?

We are not going to attract a single player because we have a nicer Jacuzzi than Chelsea are we ? At the end of the day great coaches just need some grass don't they ?

True. But for a moment, remember that Levy's strategy, if all is to be believed, is to grow organically from within, which means huge emphasis being put on this new Academy training facility delivering, and delivering quckly.

Unlike Swansea, Spurs won't necessarily go for Championship / Div One players to load up the first team squad - rather pick these players up in their early development and put them in to this process, driven by this new Coach from top to bottom.

ryantegan · Jun 17, 2012

Bus-Conductor said:
I know it's all very lovely having some nice new facilities but really this is being a bit overplayed isn't it ? How good were Swansea's training facilities that Rodgers taught a bunch of 3rd/4th tier footballers how to outplay seasoned EPL teams on ?

We are not going to attract a single player because we have a nicer Jacuzzi than Chelsea are we ? At the end of the day great coaches just need some grass don't they ?

I just think that is the thinking at the top, £40m investment, they want it used properly

Spurger King · Jun 17, 2012

ryantegan said:
I just think that is the thinking at the top, £40m investment, they want it used properly

Are you suggesting that Harry's "runarraandabit" and complete lack of set-piece training wouldn't really make the most of the new facilities?

fridgemagnet · Jun 17, 2012

Other than it being new what's state of the art about it? Hot and cold running water? I'm genuinely curious to know as haven't spotted anything yet and this drum is being loudly banged.

I'm sure it'll be lovely though.

Roynie · Jun 17, 2012

Bus-Conductor said:
I know it's all very lovely having some nice new facilities but really this is being a bit overplayed isn't it ? How good were Swansea's training facilities that Rodgers taught a bunch of 3rd/4th tier footballers how to outplay seasoned EPL teams on ?

We are not going to attract a single player because we have a nicer Jacuzzi than Chelsea are we ? At the end of the day great coaches just need some grass don't they ?

Yes you are right, but it is also about the image that the new training facilities creates in the mind of potential transferees to the club whether they are young players for development or top, top, triffic players who we want to sign.

r_baker · Jun 17, 2012

PT said:
True. But for a moment, remember that Levy's strategy, if all is to be believed, is to grow organically from within, which means huge emphasis being put on this new Academy training facility delivering, and delivering quckly.

Unlike Swansea, Spurs won't necessarily go for Championship / Div One players to load up the first team squad - rather pick these players up in their early development and put them in to this process, driven by this new Coach from top to bottom.

is having a nice pitch to play on really going to produce noticeably better standard players though?

interesting how a large number of young talents come from poorer areas playing on mud, making it easier to play when they finally reach a smooth pitch.

not saying it wont have a difference, barca's la masia academy is testimony to that but in my view the coaches and management of said players has a far bigger impact on progression of youth than the pitch they train on, which is probably one of the reasons redknapp got the boot

PT · Jun 17, 2012

r_baker said:
is having a nice pitch to play on really going to produce noticeably better standard players though?

interesting how a large number of young talents come from poorer areas playing on mud, making it easier to play when they finally reach a smooth pitch.

not saying it wont have a difference, barca's la masia academy is testimony to that but in my view the coaches and management of said players has a far bigger impact on progression of youth than the pitch they train on, which is probably one of the reasons redknapp got the boot

On that basis, and you are quite correct Sir, Redknapp being sacked off was the right decision then. A new direction / strategy is being implemented. The key Management are being lined up so that from bottom to top, every part of the process is set to deliver first team footballers coached to step in to a well oiled system designed to carry spurs to success.

Spurger King · Jun 17, 2012

Roynie said:
Yes you are right, but it is also about the image that the new training facilities creates in the mind of potential transfers to the club whether they are young players for development or top, top, triffic players who we want to sign.

Exactly. It signifies the intent of the club. It looks like an amazing training facility that will show current and prospective players that we have genuine ambition.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/sites/spurs/The Club/training-centre/gallery.page

PraetorianX · Jun 17, 2012

r_baker said:
is having a nice pitch to play on really going to produce noticeably better standard players though?

interesting how a large number of young talents come from poorer areas playing on mud, making it easier to play when they finally reach a smooth pitch.

not saying it wont have a difference, barca's la masia academy is testimony to that but in my view the coaches and management of said players has a far bigger impact on progression of youth than the pitch they train on, which is probably one of the reasons redknapp got the boot

And you don't think that these top coaches and managers wonld prefer to work with a top of the line training facility?

Roynie · Jun 17, 2012

Spurger King said:
Exactly. It signifies the intent of the club. It looks like an amazing training facility that will show current and prospective players that we have genuine ambition.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/sites/spurs/The Club/training-centre/gallery.page

They'll need to put some proper doors on there first though eh! (y)

SpunkyBackpack · Jun 17, 2012

fridgemagnet said:
Other than it being new what's state of the art about it? Hot and cold running water? I'm genuinely curious to know as haven't spotted anything yet and this drum is being loudly banged.

I'm sure it'll be lovely though.

It's all virtual reality, players sit in special chairs with electrodes stuck to them for workouts while they go through set pieces in a 3d world. I did a tour recently, it's a cross between a slendertone advert and The Lawnmower Man.

Woland · Jun 17, 2012

Literal much?
The message is 'One who will commit to developing the System at THFC'
It's not about jacuzzis and astroturf and stuff.

rawhide · Jun 17, 2012

So...

Nothing of note other than a game of guess the ITK and a "brace yourself!" rallying cry?

Oh, and current SC darlings (and therefore heavily bet on) are Blanc and Deschamps.

Ok, I wonder what we get tomorrow.

PT · Jun 17, 2012

rawhide said:
So...

Nothing of note other than a game of guess the ITK and a "brace yourself!" rallying cry?

Oh, and current SC darlings (and therefore heavily bet on) are Blanc and Deschamps.

Ok, I wonder what we get tomorrow.

the alarm going off at 5.30 am for another monday morning kick start to a looooong week at work.

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