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tommo84

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Aug 15, 2005
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Utd try not sack managers that quickly and I don't think they'd want to upset a club legend like that, I see him lasting until the end of the season unless his situation becomes untenable.

Think for as long as they’re in the Champs Lge they’ll stick with him but can’t see this carrying on much longer before the media focus on Solskjaer as a problem - so far the blame seems to be getting spread around (perhaps fairly) but sooner or later the press will smell blood. When they do it will be interesting to see how long OGS’ ex-teammates stick up for him.
 
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Looks like Jimmy Hill.

Not hugely dissimilar looking lads tbf.

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Maguire's mouth is on upside down, but if someone said they were related you'd see it
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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To be fair Woodward is probably thinking he paid a shitload for defenders last season and they still can't defend. Would they really be that much better with more CB"s coming in? I doubt it personally.

Woodward is a problem but ole is clueless and tactically naive both need to go to turn them around imo.

I'd say it's even more than tactical with OGS.

He and his coaching staff are not coaching them into a sound defensive unit.

In fact the whole team doesn't seem to know how to defend as a unit.

That lands at the managers door.

Be it motivarion issues or incompetence, if it's not improving significantly in the next half a dozen games he'll be gone I reckon.
 
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Poch will be in by Christmas.

You'd hope he wouldn't be that naive. The way I see it, his next job has to maintain or elevate him. Ideal one for him would be one of the easy teams in a league like PSG.

There aren't many managers whose reputation hasn't been destroyed by the Utd job. Mourinho struggled and, let's be honest, would normally have been well out of our reach.

If Poch goes there and fails to do anything less than an absolute miracle (more than he ever did with us) then, well...
 
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al_pacino

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Think for as long as they’re in the Champs Lge they’ll stick with him but can’t see this carrying on much longer before the media focus on Solskjaer as a problem - so far the blame seems to be getting spread around (perhaps fairly) but sooner or later the press will smell blood. When they do it will be interesting to see how long OGS’ ex-teammates stick up for him.

This is almost exactly how they do it. I think Moyes got the sack the day after CL qualification was mathematically impossible and others have followed that pattern.
 

double0

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You'd hope he wouldn't be that naive. The way I see it, his next job has to maintain or elevate him. Ideal one for him would be one of the easy teams in a league like PSG.

There aren't many managers whose reputation hasn't be destroyed by the Utd job. Mourinho struggled and, let's be honest, would normally have been well out of our reach.

If Poch goes there and fails to do anything less than an absolute miracle (more than he ever did with us) then, well...
As much as Man Utd deservedly are getting hammered they're still a massive club globally and are the biggest club in Britain. Poch is exactly the right fit he will be given time to sort things out plus given a massive transfer war chest.
 

Wig

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May 23, 2018
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I cannot stand Szszeny. Utterly, utterly detest him. He's a no-mark player who's done sweet FA in his career but has a gob the size of a borehole. Want nothing but bad things for him, the no-talent sack of shit.

Can't say it enough - he's a top geezer.

Yeah, Jamie has always struck me as weird - his default position is to have a pop at us, but then occasionally he'll be complimentary, and then go back to criticising. I tend to ignore him these days, because he's just silly.
I don't mind Jamie in his comedy clown role on League of their Own, but as a serious pundit talking about football he pisses me right off
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Unfortunately my wife is a big Chelsea fan so I see a lot of their games and I've come to the same conclusion. It's all about them spending loads on coveted players but from what I've seen of it all so far I've not been overly impressed.

Werner and Havertz are big names and clearly talented but so far I've not been wowed by them at all. I'm struggling to see Havertz add anything that Mount wasn't already doing to be honest. Abraham I'm getting less and less convinced by over time, Hudson-Odoi even more so. They lost a good player in Willian too.

I do really rate Ziyech and Pulisic so maybe that will be the key to unlocking the other too, it is incredibly early still.

Chillwell is the only one that looks a bonafide improvement to me, but even then Alonso popped up with a fair few goals for LB for them.

The big question marks I have are everywhere else on the pitch, plus the coach himself. I think unless he's playing the low block and counter vs big sides his high press philosophy leaves them very exposed defensively.

They haven't touched their midfield despite looking weak whenever Kante is out, and his injury record seems to be getting worse every year. Jorginho is massively lightweight and Kovacic flits in and out of most games.

Centre back is the big worry. Zouma is handy on his day but suffers from lapses in concentration quite regularly (like Sanchez for us). Silva seems a huge gamble in a team that plays a high line in such a tough league as the PL. He was woeful at WBA. Christensen is just awful.

Kepa was a travesty but early impressions of Mendy suggest he is far from a safe pair of hands. Has flapped at a few crosses already.

I can see them being turned over a fair few times this season, as well as racking up some big wins, so pretty much unchanged from last season. I've seen nothing to suggest they should be a lock for 3rd, personally I think both us and Arsenal look better set for an improved season than them. Arteta just looks a much better coach to me than Frank, I think the added pressure this season will affect him.

Even in their 4-0 at the weekend I never really could see their attackers scoring, which they didn't. Palace were very passive and Sakho had one of his nightmares which played into Chelsea's hands.

They’ve also failed to offload a lot of players in the summer. They’ve got three left backs for example. I wonder if they’ve had to leave any internationals out of their PL squad.
 
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As much as Man Utd deservedly are getting hammered they're still a massive club globally and are the biggest club in Britain. Poch is exactly the right fit he will be given time to sort things out plus given a massive transfer war chest.

He would be the first since Fergie, in that case. Just the next scapegoat on the Glazer rollercoaster.
 

Col_M

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As much as Man Utd deservedly are getting hammered they're still a massive club globally and are the biggest club in Britain. Poch is exactly the right fit he will be given time to sort things out plus given a massive transfer war chest.

what’s your definition of Time? 2 or 3 seasons?
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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As much as Man Utd deservedly are getting hammered they're still a massive club globally and are the biggest club in Britain. Poch is exactly the right fit he will be given time to sort things out plus given a massive transfer war chest.

What makes you think Woodward will give Poch the right tools to get the job done? If he didn’t like the way Levy did business, I can’t see him enjoying United’s botched galactico approach. Mourinho was given millions to spend in the market, but united kept delivering the wrong players in the wrong positions.

Poch is a great coach, but so are Mourinho and Van Gaal and they both got chewed out by the United machine. I don’t see Poch doing anything aside from tarnishing his reputation by going there under the current set-up.
 

Wils

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I cannot stand Szszeny. Utterly, utterly detest him. He's a no-mark player who's done sweet FA in his career but has a gob the size of a borehole. Want nothing but bad things for him, the no-talent sack of shit.

Can't say it enough - he's a top geezer.

Yeah, Jamie has always struck me as weird - his default position is to have a pop at us, but then occasionally he'll be complimentary, and then go back to criticising. I tend to ignore him these days, because he's just silly.
Exactly I can remember when he referred to Tim Sherwood as a "proper football man". What does that even mean???!!!
 
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You can see intelligence behind Jimmy’s eyes. You cannot with Harry.
Oh definitely. I tend to think that you can discern a person's personality from their visage. There's probably a word for it. But yeah, sure he's a nice lad, but I wouldn't peg him as much of a philosopher.
 

rossdapep

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As much as Man Utd deservedly are getting hammered they're still a massive club globally and are the biggest club in Britain. Poch is exactly the right fit he will be given time to sort things out plus given a massive transfer war chest.
As others have accurately stated, would he be given the players he wants?

The problem at United is that their scouts are so firmly planted in the club that they have their own ideas of what players they should be signing.

Van Gaal seemed to just go along with it but did complain about things once he'd left.

Jose clearly wasnt getting the players he really wanted. He wanted Perisic, Thiago and a number of other established players yet their scouts gave him different options and the board refused to sell Martial and Pogba as they were seen as too high profile/rated.

OGS, said that he needed a big clear out and wanted to add some serious depth. First summer they got rid of a couple and brought in Fernandes and Maguire. This year they've completely failed to back him, whether it's cause they couldn't or wouldn't, it doesnt matter cause they still showed that they are unable to.

If Poch goes there, it won't just be Woodward and the board he'll have to wrestle with when it comes to signings, it's the scouts. We all know that Poch wanted complete control over all of that in the latter years of the club. Who's to say he won't waltz in there and do exactly the same thing? If he thought it was hard under Levy and working with Mitchell/Hitchens or whoever then hes got another thing coming.

Secondly, Poch needs selfless players, players willing to press like demons and train like madmen. Can you see Pogba, Shaw and Martial following that?? He needs players to sacrifice for the team. Will they do that?

Hed need another rebuild, certainly. The beautiful thing he had with us was less pressure which bought him a bit of time. Imagine if he goes to Untied, and it still hasn't clicked by second season. The voices will be calling for his head.
 
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