Time to be excited

[SpursManChris]

while we're at it let's get Hoddle in.....one of our most successful managers ever.....

...endorsed by one of our most successful players ever, Gary Linekar. He tweeted that he'd love to see him take the job! Why would he do that? What could he POSSIBLY see in him?

 

[Stoof]

It does appear that Levy rates Sherwood so that's in his favour.

Based. On. What.

Seriously, I have the same management record as Tim Sherwood. In fact, I'm probably slightly better than him because I am not - and I want to make this very clear - Tim Sherwood.

 

[ecce_tottenham]

I don't know why there is so much negativity around this place at the moment.

During the Liverpool game I went through several emotions including anger at the performance, the result, The selection, naughton in general (even his face annoys me), resignation but also excitement. It's strange because when it got to 3-0 I kind of gave up and was even, dare I say it, happy that we lost 5-0 instead of 2-0 as that really was an embarrassment and a true reason to stop the bleeding.

I'm particularly excited about Ramsey being part of the 1st team mix as by all accounts he is an incredible coach that helps assess the assessors, so he must know what he's doing. That added to the way the youth team have been having success, by playing attacking football, I really think we could see a positive change now.

I couldn't give a shit who was in charge as long as we play exciting football that I'm actually wanting to see. Success is one thing but watching the team I love is another, otherwise we could all just play football manager and wank each other off as we win the champions league for the 8th time in a row.

Spurs is by word for attacking, exciting play with flair and a swagger that we haven't seen for a while. Yes we may have the tag as perennial fuck ups but if we aren't going to quite reach our goals, id at least hope we went down fighting.

Let's really get behind the guys on Wednesday at least and see what they bring to the table.

I'm upset at the dischord in teh club, and ambivalent/confused about whether we have made a mistake, but I am sure about one thing: I love this post in every way.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

I think your faith was/is admirable, but also very badly misplaced.

Ignoring what was going on behind the doors I believe it would have got better on the pitch.

 

[scat1620]

Ignoring what was going on behind the doors I believe it would have got better on the pitch.

Being knowingly facetious for the sake of a quick laugh, it couldn't really have gotten any worse than on Sunday, could it?

But to stop being an arsehole for just one second, I don't believe it would have got significantly better on the pitch in the medium/long term. For me, I couldn't see any green shoots sprouting up through the rubble with the football that AVB had us playing: the same mistakes were being made week in, week out during his entire tenure without seemingly being learned from, and therefore I can't see any evidence for why things would have gotten better if only we had allowed him more time.

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but to me your faith that AVB would have improved things seems closer to blind faith and a desire for that belief to be true than it does evidence-based conclusions.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Being knowingly facetious for the sake of a quick laugh, it couldn't really have gotten any worse than on Sunday, could it?

But to stop being an arsehole for just one second, I don't believe it would have got significantly better on the pitch in the medium/long term. For me, I couldn't see any green shoots sprouting up through the rubble with the football that AVB had us playing: the same mistakes were being made week in, week out during his entire tenure without seemingly being learned from, and therefore I can't see any evidence for why things would have gotten better if only we had allowed him more time.

I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but to me your faith that AVB would have improved things seems closer to blind faith and a desire for that belief to be true than it does evidence-based conclusions.

 

[parklane1]

I cannot get excited. I really thought this was it and the board would let him have time.

2 seasons and they ditch him.

Same old same old and we will never learn.

My thoughts as well, i am really gutted and we have screwed up again.

 

[Ossie'sAardvark]

Based. On. What.

Seriously, I have the same management record as Tim Sherwood. In fact, I'm probably slightly better than him because I am not - and I want to make this very clear - Tim Sherwood.

He knows what it takes to win the premiership I suppose!

 

[parklane1]

I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.

So true.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Based. On. What.

Seriously, I have the same management record as Tim Sherwood. In fact, I'm probably slightly better than him because I am not - and I want to make this very clear - Tim Sherwood.

methinks someone doth protest too much

It does appear that Levy rates Sherwood so that's in his favour.

Levy obviously rated the men that went before, otherwise they wouldn't have got the job. No?Stoof/Sherwood will get the bullet same as everyone else when things aren't looking rosey. Being flavour of the month/season/year won't help him if we're losing matches we should be winning.

 

[parklane1]

could be wrong here....but I thought a big chunk of our fans didn't rate BAE at all.

They did not its the same old fan weakness, absense makes the heart fonder.

 

[SteveH]

I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.

I love my football and support Spurs.
Football is a soap opera and thus does not bare too much scrutiny.
Do I care? Yes you bet and I'm in my 60th year.
Loosing 0-5 to dreaded scousers, hurt, and so it should - Spurs are my team.

What is so true though Bobbins is "just enjoy what you can about the game". It's funny, as I've got older I think I enjoy it even more. Although football and Spurs are a large part my life entertainment wise, I ride the punches much better these days. I think its called getting old.

 

[thfc1989]

Things really changed when we lost Bale. I had 100% faith in AVB that he could be the manager to lead us forward.

Guess we will never know. On to the next victim.

We weren't creating chances under AVB last season, the only thing that has changed is that Gareth was no longer there to bail him out. Nothing I have seen in the past two seasons suggests to me that he was the man to take us forward.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

We weren't creating chances under AVB last season, the only thing that has changed is that Gareth was no longer there to bail him out. Nothing I have seen in the past two seasons suggests to me that he was the man to take us forward.

I love this "bail him out" talk as if he wasn't really part of teh team and comes on like in a hockey game.

 

[thfc1989]

I love this "bail him out" talk as if he wasn't really part of teh team and comes on like in a hockey game.

His moments of individual brilliance were winning us matches that we otherwise would have drawn due to an incredibly unimaginative and un-creative team that coincided perfectly with the arrival of AVB.

I really can't understand your rationale for having such faith in him. Yes managers need time, but giving an incompetent manager time isn't going to make you a success.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I think I'm drinking from the cup half full...I think. I'm a little bit torn on it.

Like many others this season and even last season the overwhelming passion for all things Spurs has started to slowly wane, that's not to say it isn't still there but the grinding football, the lack of excitement, the booing fans, the fail then rinse and repeat tactics had started to get to me. That more than the results is what was hurting most as the enjoyment wasn't quite what it normally is. I am sad that AVB didn't succeed or wasn't given time to succeed, however you spin it I don't feel great about it.

Going forward though I like the opportunity we have as a club. We're not really in a terrible position in the table, europe or cups. We have a young squad with some obvious talent and I'd like to think that we are going to play balls out attacking/attractive football for the remainder of the season. I don't even mind the other clubs spending billions to buy the league if we can be the upstarts that bring them down playing great football. I just want to see some magic and for the club to get that buzz back so I'd say I am excited right now because despite wanting AVB to succeed I couldn't see that buzz coming any time soon.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

My thoughts as well, i am really gutted and we have screwed up again.

Come on, he was a myth with no substance and was found out... Levy had no option as the whole situation was dangerously running out of control.

 

[riggi]

He knows what it takes to win the premiership I suppose!

Win games.

 

[parklane1]

Come on, he was a myth with no substance and was found out... Levy had no option as the whole situation was dangerously running out of control.

A myth with our record points season last year and a higher PPG ratio of all our previous managers, yes i can see where you get the myth rubbish from.

 

[Toela65]

I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.

Best. Post. Ever

This sums up my feelings, and many other fans of English footy I'd imagine, perfectly.

Bravo. Its a rigged game.