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dontcallme

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could be wrong here....but I thought a big chunk of our fans didn't rate BAE at all.

Some do, some don't like many players.

Have to believe we'd be infinitely better off with BAE and Rose as our left backs this season. If we'd kept BAE or replaced him we'd have been able to play Vertonghen in his strongest position all season.
 

Wardy

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I couldn't give a shit who was in charge as long as we play exciting football that I'm actually wanting to see. Success is one thing but watching the team I love is another, otherwise we could all just play football manager and wank each other off as we win the champions league for the 8th time in a row.

Epic
 

Josiebyar

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How can we have the upper hand in a game where we failed to kick the ball in the direction of the net that would cound as a shoot? Were obviously gonna disagree here, I thought the hole performance was a fucking disgrace.

we actually scored but ruled out for a shoulder charge on Mignolet
 

Flashspur

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I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.

I was looking for the LOSER rating but I couldn't find it LOL :D Stop feeling so sorry for yourself dude. We are all in the same boat and we support this club because its bloody addictive. Stepping back emotionally from football - what the farkinel is that? A couple of wins under Sgt Major Tim and you'll be back supporting the Lilywhites with vengeance!
 

Kendall

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And how would our very inconsistent left back being back in the fold have stopped Dawson, Capoue and Holtby being schooled by Suarez every few minutes?

If you have a natural left back there with experience it gives you a plaform for defensive balance. Naughton getting rinsed a couple of times in the first 10 minutes set the tone for the match.
 

Donki

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we actually scored but ruled out for a shoulder charge on Mignolet

And you point is?

Shots
9
On target
0
Possession
43%

You can dislike this post too if you like, it wont make me not think that our perfomance was a disgrace.
 

Metalhead

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I don't know why there is so much negativity around this place at the moment.

During the Liverpool game I went through several emotions including anger at the performance, the result, The selection, naughton in general (even his face annoys me), resignation but also excitement. It's strange because when it got to 3-0 I kind of gave up and was even, dare I say it, happy that we lost 5-0 instead of 2-0 as that really was an embarrassment and a true reason to stop the bleeding.

I'm particularly excited about Ramsey being part of the 1st team mix as by all accounts he is an incredible coach that helps assess the assessors, so he must know what he's doing. That added to the way the youth team have been having success, by playing attacking football, I really think we could see a positive change now.

I couldn't give a shit who was in charge as long as we play exciting football that I'm actually wanting to see. Success is one thing but watching the team I love is another, otherwise we could all just play football manager and wank each other off as we win the champions league for the 8th time in a row.

Spurs is by word for attacking, exciting play with flair and a swagger that we haven't seen for a while. Yes we may have the tag as perennial fuck ups but if we aren't going to quite reach our goals, id at least hope we went down fighting.

Let's really get behind the guys on Wednesday at least and see what they bring to the table.
I'm with you totally. I am actually quite excited about the interim management team because they are comprised of people who are already part of the club. Let's face it, if the kids are ever going to get a chance then it will be with Ramsey and Sherwood in charge. I am more than happy to see them being given the ball (pun intended) and letting them run with it.
 

Metalhead

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I'm really not sure how I feel right now.

I was really behind the firings of Graham and Hoddle and believed it was the right time for Redknapp to go though I was more on the fence with that one and thought overall he did a good job.

I've been putting up with dull performances this season believing it was part of a project and whatever my opinion of it, it was best to wait for it to take shape.

Now I'm completely unsure of where we are going as a club. Does Levy have a clue what his next move is?

I guess Sherwood takes over for the season and we wait until the summer to hire a head coach unless one of the international coaches will do the job during the season.

Right now I'm just downcast at the project not working. If Levy had sacked AVB with a clear plan in place then I'd be more upbeat. Right now I have no idea what our strategy is.
Levy's sacked managers with a clear plan in place before (remember the ill-fated first attempt at a continental approach?) and it hasn't worked. It seems like Levy has tried everything and the only person that has worked is Redknapp and things were clearly never quite right behind the scenes when he was in charge. I am at the point now where I am relieved but not happy at seeing AVB gone and just simply want to see someone come in and make better use of the talent we have.
 

dontcallme

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Levy's sacked managers with a clear plan in place before (remember the ill-fated first attempt at a continental approach?) and it hasn't worked. It seems like Levy has tried everything and the only person that has worked is Redknapp and things were clearly never quite right behind the scenes when he was in charge. I am at the point now where I am relieved but not happy at seeing AVB gone and just simply want to see someone come in and make better use of the talent we have.

I'm pretty much in the same place. There's an element of relief.

I was in the pub on Sunday watching the game and my non-Spurs friends asked my opinion and I said I wasn't as down as I should be because I haven't been excited at all by Spurs all season. If you don't have an up then you don't have much of a down.

For now Sherwood takes over but I won't feel excitement until I know what the plan is for a permanent appointment.
 

Azazello

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So many managers, but just the one chairman.

Hmmmm.

I am quite excited in a way, but I think I'm more worried. Fingers crossed.
 

DOX

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Like already being said on this site, no one really know if it was the right decision to part with AVB, but one thing for sure is, Levy (and Baldini) has concluded it at a very early stage - meaning he still wants a CL birth this season, and not merely yet another transitional season. I'm crossing my Jewish balls:unsure:
 

Metalhead

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I'm pretty much in the same place. There's an element of relief.

I was in the pub on Sunday watching the game and my non-Spurs friends asked my opinion and I said I wasn't as down as I should be because I haven't been excited at all by Spurs all season. If you don't have an up then you don't have much of a down.

For now Sherwood takes over but I won't feel excitement until I know what the plan is for a permanent appointment.
Sadly we're probably all at the point where it's impossible to be too optimistic. It's like hoping for the least worst rather than the best. I don't know how you feel but I don't care what Sherwood is like as a person, I don't care if he grew up a gooner and I don't care whether he always coveted the Spurs job. If he can make the best of the experience he already has at the club and can genuinely work towards a transition process whereby the kids can come through to the Spurs team (obviously providing that they can add something to what we already have) then he's ok in my book.
 

talkshowhost86

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I cannot get excited. I really thought this was it and the board would let him have time.

2 seasons and they ditch him.

Same old same old and we will never learn.

This is the thing that worries me. Whilst I think things had come to a head for AVB (not all his own fault), after this latest cluster-fuck I just don't see why we should be particularly optimistic about any new manager being given any time at all to sort the squad out, either by the fans or by the board. It's just the latest round of changes and can't see where it's ever going to sort itself out.

Similarly I'm not excited about any of the prospects that are being touted about as replacements for AVB so not feeling particularly optimistic about that either.

Even if Sherwood and co do well (and I don't have any particular concerns about them) why would we think they'd be given any time to carry the job through?

The only positive I can see is that AVB leaving means the fans can no longer whinge about that, and hopefully at least some of the poison at the ground will dissipate. Unfortunately I suspect this will only be for a short time though and we'll be back to normal as soon as we lose a game again.

Obviously I'll fully support whoever is appointed, and to be fair things can't get much worse than a 5-0 home defeat, but I'm certainly not feeling particularly optimistic about the future at the moment.
 

CowInAComa

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I knew what I was getting with AvB every game. Boredom.

I dont know what I will be getting over the next few games.

All I know is that Im looking forward to seeing Spurs play again. It might be good it might be shit. At least there is an element of interest for the first time in months.
 

Crash

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Think I'm going to go and watch paint dry than read all the negative comments. Can we please get behind Sherwood and the team and see how we do over the next few weeks :)
 

Metalhead

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This is the thing that worries me. Whilst I think things had come to a head for AVB (not all his own fault), after this latest cluster-fuck I just don't see why we should be particularly optimistic about any new manager being given any time at all to sort the squad out, either by the fans or by the board. It's just the latest round of changes and can't see where it's ever going to sort itself out.

Similarly I'm not excited about any of the prospects that are being touted about as replacements for AVB so not feeling particularly optimistic about that either.

Even if Sherwood and co do well (and I don't have any particular concerns about them) why would we think they'd be given any time to carry the job through?

The only positive I can see is that AVB leaving means the fans can no longer whinge about that, and hopefully at least some of the poison at the ground will dissipate. Unfortunately I suspect this will only be for a short time though and we'll be back to normal as soon as we lose a game again.

Obviously I'll fully support whoever is appointed, and to be fair things can't get much worse than a 5-0 home defeat, but I'm certainly not feeling particularly optimistic about the future at the moment.
It does appear that Levy rates Sherwood so that's in his favour.
 

dontcallme

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Sadly we're probably all at the point where it's impossible to be too optimistic. It's like hoping for the least worst rather than the best. I don't know how you feel but I don't care what Sherwood is like as a person, I don't care if he grew up a gooner and I don't care whether he always coveted the Spurs job. If he can make the best of the experience he already has at the club and can genuinely work towards a transition process whereby the kids can come through to the Spurs team (obviously providing that they can add something to what we already have) then he's ok in my book.

I'm really interested to see how Sherwood does.

He is highly thought of within the club. I don't know much about his character. Ferguson and Mourinho have a bastard side to their chracter and a ruthless streak when necessary. Certainly ready to sit back and not make quick judgements on Sherwood.
 
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