thinktank
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What gets me about that is how gentle and polite you are in telling him to fuck off.
The case for Tim Sherwood
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What gets me about that is how gentle and polite you are in telling him to fuck off.
Flashspur
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He is trying
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ham-hotspur-tim-sherwood-west-ham-villas-boas
For the first 10 minutes at White Hart Lane on Wednesday night it was tempting to think that the home crowd had not had it so good in ages. It was knee-jerk nonsense, of course, but tempting. Against West Ham United in the Capital One Cup quarter-final Tottenham Hotspur flew out of the blocks and created chances and the stadium crackled with excitement. It was like old times.
This is Tottenham, though, and the rough inevitably comes with the smooth. Into the last 20 minutes and leading through Emmanuel Adebayor's redemption shot, they ran out of gas. They made errors on the ball and were suddenly vulnerable. West Ham punished them.
Tottenham still created three excellent opportunities but they could not take them and, for the second time this season, we were treated to the sight of Big Sam Allardyce smiling that big smile and revelling in a big West Ham win at the home of their hated rivals.
Allardyce could add Tim Sherwood, the Tottenham caretaker, to André Villas-Boas, who was sacked on Monday, on the list of those he has outmanoeuvred. "I thought they might have sat back and protected that [the 1-0] but they didn't," Allardyce said, almost shaking his head at Sherwood's folly. "They went for the second and we started exploiting the spaces that were left."
Sherwood is caught betwixt and between and so are Tottenham. The caretaker had worked with the squad for all of one day but the team he sent out was startlingly different from that of Villas-Boas. This was revolution in 24 hours. There was an old-school 4-4-2, the kitchen sink at the outset and balls into the mixer from wide areas. Sherwood called it "a complete change of mind-set". He said he had asked them "to go a bit more gung-ho and up-and‑at‑them".
It was unashamedly British, the polar opposite of Villas-Boas's continental muck, with all of that patient probing and growing into games in a tactical sense. It was actually quite enjoyable, especially at the very start, and the players felt that the crowd responded. It was not better or worse, just different, although the result was not different and there were, of course, boos at the full-time whistle.
Sherwood's problem is that wholesale overhauls are difficult enough in pre-season. In December it is asking an awful lot, particularly from a 44-year-old who has never previously managed in the professional game.
Take fitness, which Sherwood brought up. Villas-Boas planned every training session from the start of pre-season with scientific precision. From one to the next they were designed to build up his squad and enable them to sustain football at his tempo over the season. He was confident that the work put in would bear fruit in the decisive months towards the end.
Sherwood wants different levels but how can he change things now, as the games come every three or four days and the training sessions are geared more to recovery and team shape?
Sherwood gave the clear impression after West Ham that he was operating on a day-to-day basis; that if the call from the chairman, Daniel Levy, on Monday morning to step up from the post of youth technical coordinator had been out of the blue, then a similar tap to step back down could come at any moment. It is impossible to paint this as the ideal backdrop to the era that Sherwood hopes to sculpt.
Tottenham want a big-name permanent appointment and they began to take soundings after the 6-0 defeat at Manchester City on 24 November, when their faith in Villas-Boas had effectively died. But there is a difference between whom they might want and who would be prepared to come in mid-season.
Guus Hiddink has said no and Frank de Boer, Ajax's brilliant coach, is focused on the pursuit of a fourth consecutive Eredivisie title. Guido Albers, De Boer's agent, said: "Through various channels, it has become clear to me that Spurs are interested. But the club has not approached Ajax so for us, there is not much to say about it. Frank focuses entirely on Ajax."
Mauricio Pochettino has his admirers in the Tottenham boardroom but he is immersed in his job at Southampton, from his exciting first-team to the academy sides that he watches regularly. His chairman, Nicola Cortese, has supported him in the transfer market and Pochettino has even been allowed to propagate the myth that he does not speak English to maintain a distance with the media.
Tottenham may be better off waiting until the summer but they do not want to. Nor will they consider this to be a season of transition. The target remains Champions League qualification. If they missed out and were still to need a manager, they would be less attractive to the elite.
Betwixt and between: Tottenham have a headache.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ham-hotspur-tim-sherwood-west-ham-villas-boas
For the first 10 minutes at White Hart Lane on Wednesday night it was tempting to think that the home crowd had not had it so good in ages. It was knee-jerk nonsense, of course, but tempting. Against West Ham United in the Capital One Cup quarter-final Tottenham Hotspur flew out of the blocks and created chances and the stadium crackled with excitement. It was like old times.
This is Tottenham, though, and the rough inevitably comes with the smooth. Into the last 20 minutes and leading through Emmanuel Adebayor's redemption shot, they ran out of gas. They made errors on the ball and were suddenly vulnerable. West Ham punished them.
Tottenham still created three excellent opportunities but they could not take them and, for the second time this season, we were treated to the sight of Big Sam Allardyce smiling that big smile and revelling in a big West Ham win at the home of their hated rivals.
Allardyce could add Tim Sherwood, the Tottenham caretaker, to André Villas-Boas, who was sacked on Monday, on the list of those he has outmanoeuvred. "I thought they might have sat back and protected that [the 1-0] but they didn't," Allardyce said, almost shaking his head at Sherwood's folly. "They went for the second and we started exploiting the spaces that were left."
Sherwood is caught betwixt and between and so are Tottenham. The caretaker had worked with the squad for all of one day but the team he sent out was startlingly different from that of Villas-Boas. This was revolution in 24 hours. There was an old-school 4-4-2, the kitchen sink at the outset and balls into the mixer from wide areas. Sherwood called it "a complete change of mind-set". He said he had asked them "to go a bit more gung-ho and up-and‑at‑them".
It was unashamedly British, the polar opposite of Villas-Boas's continental muck, with all of that patient probing and growing into games in a tactical sense. It was actually quite enjoyable, especially at the very start, and the players felt that the crowd responded. It was not better or worse, just different, although the result was not different and there were, of course, boos at the full-time whistle.
Sherwood's problem is that wholesale overhauls are difficult enough in pre-season. In December it is asking an awful lot, particularly from a 44-year-old who has never previously managed in the professional game.
Take fitness, which Sherwood brought up. Villas-Boas planned every training session from the start of pre-season with scientific precision. From one to the next they were designed to build up his squad and enable them to sustain football at his tempo over the season. He was confident that the work put in would bear fruit in the decisive months towards the end.
Sherwood wants different levels but how can he change things now, as the games come every three or four days and the training sessions are geared more to recovery and team shape?
Sherwood gave the clear impression after West Ham that he was operating on a day-to-day basis; that if the call from the chairman, Daniel Levy, on Monday morning to step up from the post of youth technical coordinator had been out of the blue, then a similar tap to step back down could come at any moment. It is impossible to paint this as the ideal backdrop to the era that Sherwood hopes to sculpt.
Tottenham want a big-name permanent appointment and they began to take soundings after the 6-0 defeat at Manchester City on 24 November, when their faith in Villas-Boas had effectively died. But there is a difference between whom they might want and who would be prepared to come in mid-season.
Guus Hiddink has said no and Frank de Boer, Ajax's brilliant coach, is focused on the pursuit of a fourth consecutive Eredivisie title. Guido Albers, De Boer's agent, said: "Through various channels, it has become clear to me that Spurs are interested. But the club has not approached Ajax so for us, there is not much to say about it. Frank focuses entirely on Ajax."
Mauricio Pochettino has his admirers in the Tottenham boardroom but he is immersed in his job at Southampton, from his exciting first-team to the academy sides that he watches regularly. His chairman, Nicola Cortese, has supported him in the transfer market and Pochettino has even been allowed to propagate the myth that he does not speak English to maintain a distance with the media.
Tottenham may be better off waiting until the summer but they do not want to. Nor will they consider this to be a season of transition. The target remains Champions League qualification. If they missed out and were still to need a manager, they would be less attractive to the elite.
Betwixt and between: Tottenham have a headache.
thinktank
Hmmm...
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beats1
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He cant be our manager even if he wanted, you guys need put away your agenda. Apparently he doesnt intend to be a manager and hence hasnt bothered his coaching badges which he started under Harry. So even if he changed his mind he cant be our manager until he completes his badges
EastLondonYid
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jimbo
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Yep, 1-0 wins at any cost, that's us.
Had we played with that tempo all season, team might have clicked to play beautifully together by now. Even with players having played slomo -football all season, first 30 minutes was rather promising and if they can adapt quickly, it'll be all good. Players like Eriksen and Lamela ought to benefit with team playing bit more urgency. No need to blame Sherwood for the mess AVB created.
If he is given tenure till the end of the season and he delivers, I see absolutely no reason not to give him the job.
whatsappnin
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I misread that and thought you were giving him 2 games before the SACK! Thank god you said 2 DAYS!!
I misread that and thought you were giving him 2 games before the SACK! Thank god you said 2 DAYS!!
whatsappnin
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Sitting on the fence, like the courage you show here in what is practically an anonymous world!
Delivers? What is it you think would be happy with? The capital one cup? Oh know he fecked that up already!!!!
balalasaurus
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That's the face I make the morning after a Mexican dinner
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur
Surely they had better images. I guess this was most suitable
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I thought I had read that Sherwood hasn't got his coaching licenses completed so can't take the job on in permanent capacity?
teok
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Trust me they wouldn't. People are questioning managers that have won the leagues of portugal and holland as not qualified enough. Sherwood hasn't even won a match yet.
whatsappnin
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Well that would be a very good reason then! Well read young man!
True - but as for past credentials, we ought to know by now that they're worth next to nothing. It's about having right kind of personality with right kind of preferences over how football should be played, you want mere supposed winners, you get GG, Santini, Ramos or AVB.
SpursManChris
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There is no case for Tim Sherwood.
