Match Threads Spurs Vs Stade Rennais : Postponed

[thekneaf]

People keep saying "Rennes are being dicks" but why should they give up their winter break ?

Because playing the game is a condition of participation in the tournament. If they don't want to play it, there is a way out. Currently we've avoided them having an outbreak in their squad. There is a balance to be struck, but if they need an incentive then UEFA could threaten elimination or a points deduction.

 

[Yid-ol]

People keep saying "Rennes are being dicks" but why should they give up their winter break ?

Because it's in the rules of the competition that the games have to be played by x date. Winter breaks means nothing to UEFA as it's not part of their decision

 

[homer hotspur]

If we get rewarded a 3-0 win by the ethics committee because Rennes are being dicks and refusing to reschedule despite our best efforts, we won't have played 6 games...

Vitesse would very much be getting fucked if that happens.

Most likely outcome is we get kicked out, though, IMO.

Vitesse will probably be pretty aggrieved even if it is/ was played. Can you imagine the team and lack of effort we would put into the game if we had already won the group. We got massively lucky with the schedule and Vitesse are looking like being the fall guys if it is completed. over the 2 games v them, they were better than us .

 

[carmeldevil]

When do they announce the decision?

 

[Wig]

Vitesse will probably be pretty aggrieved even if it is/ was played. Can you imagine the team and lack of effort we would put into the game if we had already won the group. We got massively lucky with the schedule and Vitesse are looking like being the fall guys if it is completed. over the 2 games v them, they were better than us .

They may be aggrieved, but for the integrity of the competition each team should be able to play the same number of games home and away. Rennes are top of the group, safely through to the next round and could have fielded a reserve side against us in the last game, so Vitesse shouldn't be thinking that they are already through. We should be given the chance to reschedule that final game. There are no guarantees we will get that win, and if we don't then fair enough Vitesse have deserved to progress to the next round more than we do.

 

[homer hotspur]

They may be aggrieved, but for the integrity of the competition each team should be able to play the same number of games home and away. Rennes are top of the group, safely through to the next round and could have fielded a reserve side against us in the last game, so Vitesse shouldn't be thinking that they are already through. We should be given the chance to reschedule that final game. There are no guarantees we will get that win, and if we don't then fair enough Vitesse have deserved to progress to the next round more than we do.

Not sure about ' deserved' ,under the cicumstances, but we will have got lucky and scrambled through as often happens in these group scenarios. At the moment we have sort of been denied the opportunity to take advantage of our good fortune.

 

[Wig]

Not sure about ' deserved' ,under the cicumstances, but we will have got lucky and scrambled through as often happens in these group scenarios. At the moment we have sort of been denied the opportunity to take advantage of our good fortune.

What "good fortune" have we had exactly? Our squad being smashed with Covid, resulting in the government shutting down our training ground.

Let's forget the "deserved" stuff for a second because that is always a subjective decision, but the reason why we have a chance to progress to the next round is because we have accrued enough points in the ECL group mini-league. I'm just not sure how you think we've got lucky here. If we were lucky through the previous fixtures we would have won more games and been comfortably through to the next round.

 

[homer hotspur]

What "good fortune" have we had exactly? Our squad being smashed with Covid, resulting in the government shutting down our training ground.

Let's forget the "deserved" stuff for a second because that is always a subjective decision, but the reason why we have a chance to progress to the next round is because we have accrued enough points in the ECL group mini-league. I'm just not sure how you think we've got lucky here. If we were lucky through the previous fixtures we would have won more games and been comfortably through to the next round.

As I thought I had made clear, we are lucky to be in a situation of playing our last game at home to a team who clearly will not be taking it seriously.

 

[HodisGawd]

How? If they play 6 games and we play 6 games how are they getting fucked?

Because, as it stands, that's not going to happen.

It looks very much like we are stitching them up, with Rennes who don't want to play.

 

[Beni]

Because, as it stands, that's not going to happen.

It looks very much like we are stitching them up, with Rennes who don't want to play.

Vitesse will only be stitched up by Uefa for the decision they eventually make and refusal to extend passed the 31st December cutoff or Rennes by the refusal to play on a date in condition to the rules to fulfil the game.
I see it, we had the game postponed with the blessing of the organisers and due to no fault of our own in a situation everyone globally is dealing with, that’s unique to the rules outlined, and trying our upmost to be accommodating with Rennes to play (Play in France, postpone Leicester game etc) with no success yet.

 

[Beni]

As I thought I had made clear, we are lucky to be in a situation of playing our last game at home to a team who clearly will not be taking it seriously.

Or Vitesse are lucky they’re still in this position because of our bad performances as we should on paper be well clear and qualified. Our qualification is and has always been in our own hands, that’s not luck , that’s based on our results regardless whether we should have accrued more points than we have and performed better over the qualifying.

 

[Meercat]

I wonder if the proliferation of cancellations are in our favour? Might sound odd, but it no longer looks like we were lax or in some way lacking, when you have United cancelling, Watford off, etc. 42 cases across the league and all that. Dunno. It might shift the perspective a little into more ‘can we find a way’ territory.

 

[ExpatFan]

Q: Why are Rennes being dicks?
A: They want us out of the competition.

 

[mstill13]

A few "ifs" here but...
If UEFA agreed that us not playing the game was the right thing to do.
If we've suggested dates to reschedule.
If Rennes have rejected those dates because they didn't suit them (they would easily fit it into their winter break of it was important to them).
If we've agreed to play the tie in France to make it easier.

Then I think Rennes are being unreasonable and should be punished.
It's not fair we don't get a chance to fight for our place because they have already qualified.
I think it sets a dangerous precedent.
If a team has already qualified then they could refuse to play anymore games, take the 3-0 lose and still go through.

If you take part in a competition then every effort should be made to fulfill all the fixtures in that competition or you forfeit your place.

This is their current fixture list, to deny us our chance is totally unfair:

 

[Delboy75]

Literally forgot about this, can’t believe we still don’t know.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

I keep seeing how our absence would devalue the competition and, frankly, all I can say is 'balderdash'.

Firstly, when Portsmouth won the FA Cup, or Greece the Euros, or Villarreal the Europa, did we all think 'yeah, but x got knocked out early on, so that means shit'. No. We didn't.

Secondly, if this devaluation comment is based on European pedigree, well, there are four European Cup Winners in the draw, so, on that basis, we don't even deserve to make the semis. Alternatively, if we're going on current coefficient, then, yes, Roma and Spurs do make the final (and we lose). Spurs and Roma are the most competent non-achievers of the last five years. Whoop-de-fucking-do.

Not that I trust Spurs to get there anyway. Dinamo Zagreb, anyone? Gent? The combined might of PAOK and Rubin Kazan? I quite welcome getting knocked out by UEFA's ethics committee. It'll be a damned sight less embarrassing than those nights of ignominy, that's for sure.

And, finally, when they launched the competition, UEFA made a big deal about clubs who'd never got to a European final finally having a chance. I appreciate Basel v Copenhagen might not be the greatest glamour tie in world football, but just think how excited you'd be if you followed one of those clubs and they made a European final for the first time. That - for me - is what the Conference League should be all about. It shouldn't just exist to provide a second-tier trophy for the best of a bunch of above-average under-achievers.

Sorry dude but I just don't get this joke at all. ?

 

[SonicSarr]

A few "ifs" here but...
If UEFA agreed that us not playing the game was the right thing to do.
If we've suggested dates to reschedule.
If Rennes have rejected those dates because they didn't suit them (they would easily fit it into their winter break of it was important to them).
If we've agreed to play the tie in France to make it easier.

Then I think Rennes are being unreasonable and should be punished.
It's not fair we don't get a chance to fight for our place because they have already qualified.
I think it sets a dangerous precedent.
If a team has already qualified then they could refuse to play anymore games, take the 3-0 lose and still go through.

If you take part in a competition then every effort should be made to fulfill all the fixtures in that competition or you forfeit your place.

This is their current fixture list, to deny us our chance is totally unfair:

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Whatever side of the fence you are on. What score do we need to go through? I thought we needed to win by a bigger margin than Vitesse did?

It won't happen.

We need to concentrate on League and League Cup.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Whatever side of the fence you are on. What score do we need to go through? I thought we needed to win by a bigger margin than Vitesse did?

It won't happen.

We need to concentrate on League and League Cup.

we just need to win the game to qualify

 

[mstill13]

Whatever side of the fence you are on. What score do we need to go through? I thought we needed to win by a bigger margin than Vitesse did?

It won't happen.

We need to concentrate on League and League Cup.

We're currently tied on GD and head to head is the same. So any win will do. Is my understanding.

 

[JollyHappy]

Quite a lot may depend on the Carabao Cup games. It looks unlikely that all of the quarters will be played and so that could free up one or 2 dates in early Jan when the Rennes game could then be played although of course they have to then extend the 31 December Deadline. There is precedent for that as last year the deadline was extended to 31 January plus also by creating the Conference they have added more games to the calendar and so increased the risk of missing the 31 December deadline.

Whether UEFA think so sensibly is another matter!