Match Threads Spurs Vs Morecambe

[Fitchspur]

Yup. I assumed it’s because their crosses were going to no one so at least there might be more of a goal threat and they could shoot.
Spoiler alert… it did not.

 

[teedee]

Still don't understand what Tanganga was doing at the corner

Neither did he.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

100% agreement regarding the Gollini and Rodon part.
There are multiple things to consider here, the first being lack of minutes for both players. Goalkeepers thrive on playing in games. They don’t get the benefit of 10-15 mins as a sub every other game.
If they aren’t playing they lose focus etc.

Rodon should have been in control of that situation. He should never leave the ball for Gollini, unless he gets the call. He should also not be the one deciding whether or not Gollini should be coming for it.

My lad is goalkeeper with a new team in an U16 league and the first few games were a nightmare for him. Doesn’t matter that they’re mates at school, the communication changes when playing football.
He has one CB who constantly calls on my son to come out of the area and take control, when it’s the CB who is closer the ball and usually under no pressure. Drives my lad mad, and it’s only 10 games in that it’s started to change. He’s now more than happy to bollock his defenders!!

I disagree, and I hope you let your son know that he is the one who can see the situation the best because he can effectively see the whole pitch. He may have a defender in front of him who always wants the goalkeeper to take the risk, but he should be assessing the situation and shouting either "away" or "my ball". The same applies to Gollini and Rodon. Rodon clearly needed help to assess the situation behind him, who was going to challenge and how fast they were moving, and it was up to Gollini to provide that information, by using the type of instructions I previously specified. My reading of that situation was that Rodon was complaining that he not been given any help, rather than that Gollini did not come to get the ball. In my view, both your son and Gollini need to be more assertive.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I disagree, and I hope you let your son know that he is the one who can see the situation the best because he can effectively see the whole pitch. He may have a defender in front of him who always wants the goalkeeper to take the risk, but he should be assessing the situation and shouting either "away" or "my ball". The same applies to Gollini and Rodon. Rodon clearly needed help to assess the situation behind him, who was going to challenge and how fast they were moving, and it was up to Gollini to provide that information, by using the type of instructions I previously specified. My reading of that situation was that Rodon was complaining that he not been given any help, rather than that Gollini did not come to get the ball. In my view, both your son and Gollini need to be more assertive.

Gollini didn’t need to come out for that ball when it’s clearly much closer and easier for Rodon to deal with.
Should Gollini have been vocal - sure, but if there’s no call then Rodon has to take control of the situation.

All of that comes with minutes playing together though, something that isn’t happening for either player.

As for my lad, first few games he was the quiet one as new to the team. Now he’s the one barking at his defenders etc. Only took a couple of weeks, but it’s one of the reasons they’re now 6 points clear at the top.

 

[chrissivad]

Rodon has complete control of that situation and should clear his lines UNLESS he gets a call from the GK. That for me is not an error for Gollini and no reason for Rodon to call him out on it. But even with the dodgy back pass he started moaning (I couldn't see at who) which I found really odd.

I also think Skipp played a part in changing the game (not just Kane and Lucas) by adding more work rate in that central area. He was hustling and playing the quick pass where Ndombele was holding on to it far too long.

It was Davies
I think it was because he wanted Davies to give him an option to pass sideways.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

Gollini didn’t need to come out for that ball when it’s clearly much closer and easier for Rodon to deal with.
Should Gollini have been vocal - sure, but if there’s no call then Rodon has to take control of the situation.

All of that comes with minutes playing together though, something that isn’t happening for either player.

As for my lad, first few games he was the quiet one as new to the team. Now he’s the one barking at his defenders etc. Only took a couple of weeks, but it’s one of the reasons they’re now 6 points clear at the top.

Rodon had to take control of the situation because he got no vocal help from Gollini. He did so, but in a clearly flustered way, because, in my view, he felt he needed information that he didn't get.
I don't believe that giving vocal information is a function of your familiarity with your team mate. It is in my view a prerequisite for a good footballer, particularly a goalkeeper.
I'm glad to hear that your son has learned to be more assertive. I wish Gollini had too.

 

[Danfunkel]

Well that was a belter of a game to choose for my first trip back since the Everton game in 2019 ?.

Visibly clear, even more so in person, Conte cant trust his ‘B’ team, and we really are lacking depth and quality.

 

[allatsea]

I wonder how long Conte will put up with Spurs if he doesn't get clear and unambiguous signs of support in the January Transfer Window ? At the very least he I believe will want deals done now for at least two top players to join in the summer

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I wonder how long Conte will put up with Spurs if he doesn't get clear and unambiguous signs of support in the January Transfer Window ? At the very least he I believe will want deals done now for at least two top players to join in the summer

That concern doesn't seem to match the kind of relationship we are seeing - past and present - between Paratici and Conte, nor the statements from @Trix and perhaps others that Paratici and Conte have a budget to expend as they choose.

"Signs of support" stop being so important when there is an explicit budget and carte blanche within it. Availability of the right standard of players and the difficulties of the January transfer window are more likely to stymie Conte's desires than lack of support from management.

I think a lot of people are portraying a caricatured version of Levy's approach to player transfers. If you appoint people with the record and reputation of Paratici and Conte, you're simply wasting your money if you micro-manage them. I can't see it happening ... although I'm sure we'll see all kinds of rumours, gossip and shit-stirring to the contrary.

 

[smallsnc]

Maybe it was mentioned at the time, but I am a little surprised there has not been much discussion on the 17th minute corner when Davies was basically wrestled to the ground as the ball came in the box.

 

[Locotoro]

Rodon had to take control of the situation because he got no vocal help from Gollini. He did so, but in a clearly flustered way, because, in my view, he felt he needed information that he didn't get.
I don't believe that giving vocal information is a function of your familiarity with your team mate. It is in my view a prerequisite for a good footballer, particularly a goalkeeper.
I'm glad to hear that your son has learned to be more assertive. I wish Gollini had too.

Any former defender will tell you that you make the decision yourself unless you get the call. If Gollini is not calling then there's no confusion, you deal with the danger. Rodon is not in a position to judge on behalf of the goalkeeper.

Yes I can agree that Rodon should be told if he's got a man on him or if he has time but that situation is entirely with Rodon unless he gets the call to play it back or to leave it to Gollini.

Either way, you can tell the keeper "give me a shout next time" but Rodon seemed to be moaning a lot, it's unnecessary.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

Any former defender will tell you that you make the decision yourself unless you get the call. If Gollini is not calling then there's no confusion, you deal with the danger. Rodon is not in a position to judge on behalf of the goalkeeper.

Yes I can agree that Rodon should be told if he's got a man on him or if he has time but that situation is entirely with Rodon unless he gets the call to play it back or to leave it to Gollini.

Either way, you can tell the keeper "give me a shout next time" but Rodon seemed to be moaning a lot, it's unnecessary.

You seem to be disagreeing while agreeing. Rodon did deal with the situation. Rodon did have a man on him. Gollini had a better view of the situation behind Rodon, including the man coming on to him. Rodon did appear to me to be telling Gollini to "give me a shout next time".
Whether Rodon was "moaning a lot" is irrelevant to this particular incident, but I couldn't comment whether he was or not or whether it was unnecessary. I didn't particularly notice.

 

[Locotoro]

You seem to be disagreeing while agreeing. Rodon did deal with the situation. Rodon did have a man on him. Gollini had a better view of the situation behind Rodon, including the man coming on to him. Rodon did appear to me to be telling Gollini to "give me a shout next time".
Whether Rodon was "moaning a lot" is irrelevant to this particular incident, but I couldn't comment whether he was or not or whether it was unnecessary. I didn't particularly notice.

I was agreeing whilst disagreeing.

Everything you've said here I agree with apart from the bit about what Rodon seems to be saying to Gollini and whether the moaning is irrelevant.

When your team is under pressure you give them an arm around the shoulder or a kick up the jacksi; moaning is a show of mental weakness.

He's had an absolute mare with the pass back and then gone straight at his teammates to complain. That indicates to me a player that doesn't take responsibility for his own mistakes. When you mess up, own that shit.

Let me add, I honestly want Rodon to be a success because he has all the technical and physical ability to be a top defender. But I suspect he's seriously lacking in the mental ability a defender needs to make it at the top level and he's already 24.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Any former defender will tell you that you make the decision yourself unless you get the call. If Gollini is not calling then there's no confusion, you deal with the danger. Rodon is not in a position to judge on behalf of the goalkeeper.

Yes I can agree that Rodon should be told if he's got a man on him or if he has time but that situation is entirely with Rodon unless he gets the call to play it back or to leave it to Gollini.

Either way, you can tell the keeper "give me a shout next time" but Rodon seemed to be moaning a lot, it's unnecessary.

keeper was entirely at fault he sees it all Rodon was waiting for him - he was entitled to blast the keeper - who probably should have come for the cross for the goal as well it dropped in his five yard box though I was at the other end

The keeper is very poor overall

 

[Dougal]

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

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