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Match Threads Spurs vs Arsenal

Date
Apr 28, 2024
KO Time
2:00pm
Score
2 - 3
Romero
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Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 51 24.4%
  • Arsenal Win

    Votes: 116 55.5%
  • Draw

    Votes: 42 20.1%

  • Total voters
    209

Mr Pink

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Home form hasn't been bad recently though.

I've been to many of these games, where form goes out the window.

Exactly mate.

The atmosohere is key. If its all nervous that will play into their hands.

Need to make it fucking loud, louder than its been yet at the new stadium.

Do that and we'll have a good chance.
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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I can see Goons playing it very cagey, and sitting deep with the aim to pick us off. They’ll play not to concede and back themselves on the counter. Thats the get a result option they need at this stage of the season. We are going to have a lot of the ball.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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This is how we lined up in September and were not overrun, in fact 54% - 46% possession in our favour , shots at goal 13 - 13. Destiny out , up to Ange but he usually goes with Ben.

Vicario
Pedro Porro
Romero
van de Ven
Udogie
Sarr
Bissouma
Kulusevski
Maddison'
Johnson
Son
 

EQP

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The concerning part for me is that the team tends to struggle after a significant break from football.

You'd hope that they've been hard at work these past 2 weeks and will be extra motivated to take the game to Arsenal, but I'm not optimistic that they'll put in the type of performance needed to beat them.
 

Mate

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I can see Goons playing it very cagey, and sitting deep with the aim to pick us off. They’ll play not to concede and back themselves on the counter. Thats the get a result option they need at this stage of the season. We are going to have a lot of the ball.

I agree. Even in tonights game, Chelsea amazingly had more possession than Arsenal.

They will pick us off on the break like so many teams have done to us this season. Newcastle being the most recent example.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Destiny out , up to Ange but he usually goes with Ben.
That is actually not true.

Udogie has missed 4 league matches.

Davies and Porro. (GW 10)
Royal and Porro (GW 12)
Royal and Porro (GW 25)
Davies and Royal (GW 26)


Royal looks to be first choice FB when a starter is out.

But, I would not rule out any combination here - particularly with Dragusin available for either a back 3, or to move VdV out to LB.
 

rossdapep

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Another factor.

We need to keep our heads.

Play as crazily as we did against Chelsea and we could make it real tough for us.

Be aggressive and rattle them but be smart too
 

Styopa

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Sorry mate but you are wrong here. The very best and successful teams often change their approach depending on the opposition. Just look at the City Madrid game last week. I understand why Ange is playing this way at the moment but long term if we want more than just qualifying for Europe we need to be much more tactically astute.

They do, but not before they have an established style of playing and identity.

The major issue we have since Pochettino left is we have no identity.

Arsenal have an identity, Man C have an identity, Liverpool have an identity. They all have a signature way of playing. What do we have?

The only way you create an identity is through relentlessly pursuing that way of playing. Arsenal had some terrible results over the last four years. We all had a great laugh at them but they stuck to it. Now they can afford to mix things up a bit because they have an established way of playing. Whereas we lurch from one thing to the other because we don’t have the patience to see something out.
 

Mr Pink

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I think Ange will opt for Royal at LB. Has played there before, has a bit more pace then Ben and has played more recently as well.

Think he was in at RB against Palace at the start of March.

Davies hasnt started since Brighton away around xmas time?
 

sparx100

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Well they absolutely smashed Chelsea so we need to be up for it from the first minute. The fans will play their part but I think we need to match them in the first 15 mins in terms of intensity and pressing. They started so quick against Chelsea yesterday, so we could be out of it early if the players start as they have had a tendency to in recent matches.

I really hope Ange tightens up our structure without the ball defensively. There is no need to have Davies who I assume wil get the nod at left back to bomb on when out of possession or invert, just let him play left back against Saka.

I really want us to turn up for this one, not only because we need the points ourselves as 5th will not get champions league, but we also need to stop that lot in the title race.
 

sparx100

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They do, but not before they have an established style of playing and identity.

The major issue we have since Pochettino left is we have no identity.

Arsenal have an identity, Man C have an identity, Liverpool have an identity. They all have a signature way of playing. What do we have?

The only way you create an identity is through relentlessly pursuing that way of playing. Arsenal had some terrible results over the last four years. We all had a great laugh at them but they stuck to it. Now they can afford to mix things up a bit because they have an established way of playing. Whereas we lurch from one thing to the other because we don’t have the patience to see something out.
I think there it is fine having an identity but I think you need to have the flexibility to adapt it to the opponent in some instances.

Arsenal have a way of playing but that has come with a lot of investment in between To ge tto this position. It is in my mind fine to stick with style but if We decide to go with our normal M.O we will end up getting battered in my opinion.
 

Styopa

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I think there it is fine having an identity but I think you need to have the flexibility to adapt it to the opponent in some instances.

Arsenal have a way of playing but that has come with a lot of investment in between To ge tto this position. It is in my mind fine to stick with style but if We decide to go with our normal M.O we will end up getting battered in my opinion.

The main issue I have is people keep taking about Arsenal like Arteta took over this season. He’s been there since 2019. It’s 2024 now. Look at their league positions during his first seasons. Look at how we took them to pieces during Conte’s first season.

We laughed our heads off in here when we overtook them to finish fourth but who had the last laugh?
 

Mr Pink

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We should be capable of sticking with the style but also making tactical tweaks.

Thats just intelligent management.

We should be trying to tweak things here, otherwise we could be too exposed to their quality attacking threats.

That doesnt mean we go from one extreme to the other but some planning in terms of their strengths is absolutely necessary imo.

To just soley focus on how we play, regardless of the opposition, will only ever get you so far no matter how practicsed you are at it.
 

Styopa

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We should be capable of sticking with the style but also making tactical tweaks.

Thats just intelligent management.

We should be trying to tweak things here, otherwise we could be too exposed to their quality attacking threats.

That doesnt mean we go from one extreme to the other but some planning in terms of their strengths is absolutely necessary imo.

To just soley focus on how we play, regardless of the opposition, will only ever get you so far no matter how practicsed you are at it.

Agree but I don’t think we’re at that stage yet.

This will be unpopular but I don’t think this result ultimately matters. The same as when Arsenal lost to us a couple years ago. They were playing a longer game of building something whereas we were heading to another dead end.

We need to think about where we will be in two or three years time, not about whether we lose this match. No one will remember this match in three years time. How many people can honestly remember Arteta’s first NLD? Without googling it, how many people can tell me that result?
 

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