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Date
Apr 28, 2024
KO Time
2:00pm
Score
2 - 3
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Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 51 24.4%
  • Arsenal Win

    Votes: 116 55.5%
  • Draw

    Votes: 42 20.1%

  • Total voters
    209

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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Goodison park tonight showing us the type of noise and hostility we need to bring Sunday and most importantly .. belief ! Even if we do go a goal down can’t allow the stadium to turn toxic.

Absolutely.

Atmosphere affects both teams. Makes them cagey and lifts us.
 

robhumphreys

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They've only conceded in one of out their last six league games, whereas we've only kept one clean sheet in 15. On paper it doesn't look good for us, but here's my tactical twopence as to how we can get a result.

We've scored pretty much the same number of goals as them from open play this season. Where they've been much stronger than us (both offensively and defensively) is on set pieces. They play a high pressing, aggressive style that overloads the opposition - and so many of their big wins this season have come from taking the lead through a set-piece or by pressuring their opponent into making a mistake, then putting the chokehold on by continuing to press and overload while their opponent has to come out and try to score - leaving gaps and vulnerabilities that Arsenal exploit. We are prone to both of these things, there's a good chance we give the ball away carelessly to their press - if they take the lead then there's a good chance the floodgates open, particularly if it's in the second half.

On the flipside to this, they have to win. They can't afford to draw the game so they will have to come out and play. And when they do that, they are vulnerable on the break when they've pushed men forward - good as their defence has been this season. Ange won't play a Conte style counter-attacking game, but we do need to think about how we can stay compact, hold onto the ball, avoid giving it away in dangerous areas, drag them out of position and then exploit them when we do win it back ourselves. We also know that they are prone to losing their heads if things aren't going well, and given the number of games they've been playing recently and with such a intense style, there's a good chance they start to tire towards the end of the game. So here's the plan:

1. Bentancur and Kulusevksi have to start - think back to the NLD win two years ago. Bentancur makes us tick, he provides the easy pass and outlet to defenders that are being harassed by the high press, he shields the ball well himself, he spots gaps to transition defence into attack when we're under pressure. And Kulu, whilst in crap form these last few months, holds the ball up better than anyone in our attack. His size and strength means that when he runs with the ball, he may not skin loads of players and beat them for pace but he does drag opponents out of position and leave gaps for particularly when against teams that want to press.

2. VdV at LB, Dragusin at CB - With no Udogie we've got a decision to make, but this gives us extra height at set-pieces and our fastest, strongest defender around to deny Saka space. Will be a baptism of fire for Dragusin but if he can't handle it then we should never have signed him.

3. We need a gameplan for Odegaard. So much of what they do goes through him - if he's given time and space on the ball we're in big trouble. Part of me wonders if we should start Hojbjerg for that reason to sit on him, but whether it's him or Sarr, they've got to make sure not to leave him unguarded. I think expecting Bissouma to man-mark him would be a disaster.

4. We have to play out from the back. Villa and Bayern did this so well against them and it's Ange's style. They will press high, but if we play well using the players I've mentioned above, we can start to exploit them when they push men up the pitch. If we start trying to play long balls up the field they'll destroy our forwards and continue to dominate in our half.

5. Richarlison should start. I can't think of many games he's had much of an impact from the bench, but if he harasses them in the first half, gets in their faces, winds them up and starts to wear them down, the game becomes ideal for Johnson/Werner to come off the bench to run against tired legs. The other option if we're feeling leftfield is to start Kulusevski in the middle as a false 9 if we are to keep Johnson's pace on from the beginning, but that's completely untested and could be a disaster.


Am hoping Ange has used the two weeks without playing to come up with some new tactical suckerpunch, but I doubt it. I don't really see the "get it wide to the winger and flash it across the box" working too well in this game. We need certain players to massively step up, this one is so important for the fans.

First goal will be absolutely massive.
This makes a lot of sense apart from moving VDV to full back. Don’t mess with the centre defence. Ben or Emerson will have to take on Saka.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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The thing is we havent started with a fast tempo since the home against Chelsea.

We absolutely have to start fast here, to rattle them and to build our confidence in the game.

I really hope Agne recognises this, as he has dismissed questions about our poor first half displays.
 

BH_spurs

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Oct 14, 2005
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Absolutely.

Atmosphere affects both teams. Makes them cagey and lifts us.
Indeed, you can see it in our home games of late, the crowd get very nervous and start moaning when we are playing it around at the back but do they not realise by now this is what they’ve been instructed to do?

Our games at the start of the season show it makes it a lot easier for us to ‘play the way we want to’ when the stadium is rocking and not filled with anxiety and tension.
 

Oh Teddy Teddy

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Aug 10, 2017
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The thing is we havent started with a fast tempo since the home against Chelsea.

We absolutely have to start fast here, to rattle them and to build our confidence in the game.

I really hope Agne recognises this, as he has dismissed questions about our poor first half displays.

They’ll tire around the usual 60-minute mark, too, so we need to be in a position where they can’t afford to take a breather. Chelsea just offered up a training game, and the match had already been won.
 

TheVoiceofReason

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Feb 5, 2005
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At this stage we really don’t have much of a choice. We’ve GOT to win it or the seasons over, we’ve GOT to win it to stop these winning the league.

If Ange can’t get the players motivated for this one, I give up.
 

GutBucket

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May 26, 2013
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They will probably score 5 from set pieces unless we worked on them. We need Maddison to play well and hopefully don't waste too many chances.
 

kelloggs

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Dec 23, 2006
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I'll admit it, I'm not watching. I know that's an awful admission to make but I've just lost my belief for this season and think we need the close season for Ange to address the squad issues. I get so little time through the week, I don't want to invest one of my days off and be left depressed by watching it. Any other game I'd be watching, but not this one. It just hits differently. I hope my punishment is that I miss a remarkable derby day renaissance!!
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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I'll admit it, I'm not watching. I know that's an awful admission to make but I've just lost my belief for this season and think we need the close season for Ange to address the squad issues. I get so little time through the week, I don't want to invest one of my days off and be left depressed by watching it. Any other game I'd be watching, but not this one. It just hits differently. I hope my punishment is that I miss a remarkable derby day renaissance!!

I've tried not watching a NLD before, didn't work out well... Became more nervous in not being able to see what was happening, and I couldn't remove it from my mind.
 

Guntz

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Aug 15, 2011
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This is our biggest game since the Champions League final IMO.

Lose this and I think they go on to win the league.

Win and we stop their title chances at our ground and may also finish in the top 4.

I'm not going to enjoy watching this at all.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Aug 5, 2013
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I'll admit it, I'm not watching. I know that's an awful admission to make but I've just lost my belief for this season and think we need the close season for Ange to address the squad issues. I get so little time through the week, I don't want to invest one of my days off and be left depressed by watching it. Any other game I'd be watching, but not this one. It just hits differently. I hope my punishment is that I miss a remarkable derby day renaissance!!
That's the spirit.
 

BPR_U16

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Jun 28, 2006
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The fans will play a part in this one
We have to make the atmosphere as toxic as it was 2 years ago when they capitulated - was one of the best atmospheres at the new ground.

We shouldn't need the trumpet to get us going - need to be at it way before that.

The VT build up plays a part but the crowd, especially The Wall, is the most important element here - and can't wait to do my part!
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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Feb 18, 2007
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We have to make the atmosphere as toxic as it was 2 years ago when they capitulated - was one of the best atmospheres at the new ground.

We shouldn't need the trumpet to get us going - need to be at it way before that.

The VT build up plays a part but the crowd, especially The Wall, is the most important element here - and can't wait to do my part!
That night i reckon 50% of the stadium had been out on the piss all day. Including myself. Boozers were packed at 3pm for an 8pm kick off.
Therefore, Levy needs to open the stadium on Sunday about 9am and let the beer flow. First 3 beers are free 😂.
 

Wick3d

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Aug 31, 2012
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We've never lost an NLD when I've not watched it, so luckily, I won't be able to this Sunday. I'm doing my part. :LOL:
 

jurgen11

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Sep 9, 2004
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I'll admit it, I'm not watching. I know that's an awful admission to make but I've just lost my belief for this season and think we need the close season for Ange to address the squad issues. I get so little time through the week, I don't want to invest one of my days off and be left depressed by watching it. Any other game I'd be watching, but not this one. It just hits differently. I hope my punishment is that I miss a remarkable derby day renaissance!!
That night i reckon 50% of the stadium had been out on the piss all day. Including myself. Boozers were packed at 3pm for an 8pm kick off.
Therefore, Levy needs to open the stadium on Sunday about 9am and let the beer flow. First 3 beers are free 😂.
be nice if he made the beer not taste like you were drinking it with one of the blue urinal blocks in it too..
 

Marauder

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Ok so the digusting Legohead prick with his revolting smug will be waiting for us to be gung-ho, crazy, stupid, throw everything at them as soon as kick off, they will just defend calmly and resolutely, stoutly, and then pick us off on the break/in transition/when we error, etc, which, let's face it, much lesser sides have done to us with great success recently, and so hence Legohead is thinking they will go up 0-2 at half time, game over, title won.

NO!

We need to surprise these repulsive twats by shockingly being all out defensive in the first half, keeping a clean sheet, keeping it 0-0 until half time, come on, Ange, please, you can do this! And then comes the beauty. That's when Legohead will start to panic because they need to win! That's when they will start opening up and them being the ones gung-ho! But guess what - that is our game! And they will tire in the 2nd half whereas we will be much fresher with the 2 weeks bloody off! AND WE WILL HIT THEM WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT, ADD THE INSANE CROWD, WE GO 1-0, 2-0, 3-1 GOOD NIGHT AND SEE YOU FUCKING £$%$£%$£ AND KISS THE TITLE GOODBYE!!

That's the only way that it can be done on Sunday I think?
 

Kirito

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Would you rather…

Smash Arsenal 4-0, ending their season and leaving Arteta crying on the pitch at full time but we still finish 5th

or

We lose against Arsenal, they go on to win the title but we win the rest of our remaining games and sneak 4th?
 

VoteMe4Prez

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Oct 6, 2013
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Would you rather…

Smash Arsenal 4-0, ending their season and leaving Arteta crying on the pitch at full time but we still finish 5th

or

We lose against Arsenal, they go on to win the title but we win the rest of our remaining games and sneak 4th?
Smash Arsenal
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Aug 5, 2013
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Would you rather…

Smash Arsenal 4-0, ending their season and leaving Arteta crying on the pitch at full time but we still finish 5th

or

We lose against Arsenal, they go on to win the title but we win the rest of our remaining games and sneak 4th?
I'd be surprised if you get any takers for option 2, sounds like a nightmare
 

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