Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

[C0YS]

A straight swap with Skrinar is a poor deal and we lose out big time... Tanguy for skrinar and brozovic would be an ideal and fanastic deal for us, killing 2 birds with one stone.

By losing tanguy we would lack a much needed creative and attack minded midfield player... skrinar for tanguy would give us a big gap on mid and appear to really have no money at and good creative attacking mid of quality we need would easily be 40m+

What gap?

We let go of Eriksen and brought in three attack minded players in Ndombele, Lo Celso and SB. OK we also needed to replace Dembele but now we have bought in PEH.

Lo Celso has played mostly where Ndombele was meant to play. I think we are fine for numbers. A bit more quality in attacking midfield I'm all for. But I don't think we are losing anything. Brozovic would be great, but he is not really an attacking midfielder. Far from it. He is most effective as a deep lying playmaker. With PEH Brozovic is less of a need, would still take him though, but can see why we would choose Skrinar, who is still criminally underrated by this forum.

 

[dtxspurs]

What gap?

We let go of Eriksen and brought in three attack minded players in Ndombele, Lo Celso and SB. OK we also needed to replace Dembele but now we have bought in PEH.

Lo Celso has played mostly where Ndombele was meant to play. I think we are fine for numbers. A bit more quality in attacking midfield I'm all for. But I don't think we are losing anything. Brozovic would be great, but he is not really an attacking midfielder. Far from it. He is most effective as a deep lying playmaker. With PEH Brozovic is less of a need, would still take him though, but can see why we would choose Skrinar, who is still criminally underrated by this forum.

Have you seen us try to create chances? And we would be losing our most creative player.

We went from Eriksen as essentially the sole creative force in the team, trying to split that between Lo Celso & Ndombele to Lo Celso. Not good enough.

 

[Montalbano]

I’d like to see him play as a #10 or a free floating midfielder in a 3 man midfield alongside PEH [DM] and Lo Celso (or Winks) [Box-to-box].

If he stays, he’ll be competing with Dele for that #10 / midfield creator role. Like Lampard’s role under Mourinho.

 

[George94]

Yes a centre back would be nice but for me is not essential when we have other more pressing gaps to fill. A swap deal for Tanguy (when he is our potentially biggest cash cow) for a CB doesn't seem to maximise his use in the window if the aim is for the club to sell him ..

The only way a straight swap for Skriniar makes sense, is if we get a very generous offer come in for Toby.

 

[emiley heskey]

Have you seen us try to create chances? And we would be losing our most creative player.

We went from Eriksen as essentially the sole creative force in the team, trying to split that between Lo Celso & Ndombele to Lo Celso. Not good enough.

Wanyama out - PEH in

Dembele out - ndombele/lo celso in

Eriksen out - Bergwjin in

If ndombele really goes, I am pretty sure we will buy another attack minded midfielder if jose sees Lo celso as cm ... If not, we will loan someone out for one season atleast ... That's what I am hoping ... But you don't miss out signing Skriniar just because you have 3 center backs ... Signing skriniar will be like signing Toby when he was at the age of 25 ...

 

[Rusta81]

I'm not blurring anything. I thought I made it clear from the start, what I was saying, when I used the term "real terms". I'm pointing out that Levy isn't player trading for profit and that is especially true with senior players. Fee's go up over time, but that is due to the increase in general transfer market spending. If Levy was selling the players and then spending the money in different markets, that hadn't see such inflation, they'd have a point. But our spending shows we reinvest the money we get from transfers, back into the squad and therefore back into the transfer market. It's not like he sells Wimmer and they buys a house with the profits. He sells Wimmer etc and the money goes back into the transfer market.

I don't see what the big deal is. Football transfer prices go up at insane rates. Hence we paid 7 million for Chadli in 2013 and 26 million for Bergwijn in 2020.

But that summer we paid£30 mill for Lamela. We did welk on chadli from the off

 

[C0YS]

Have you seen us try to create chances? And we would be losing our most creative player.

We went from Eriksen as essentially the sole creative force in the team, trying to split that between Lo Celso & Ndombele to Lo Celso. Not good enough.

Yes, I have seen us not creating chances, though it did improve towards the end. I don't think thats down to individual players but rather having the wrong balance in the squad and how we set up.

Ndombele barely played and seemingly is not trusted to link things together. But I think you resolve that issue through coaching and balancing the team, not through throwing money at it. If we can get quality, I'm all for it. But think Ndombele doesn't change anything in that regard.

 

[JayB]

Have you seen us try to create chances? And we would be losing our most creative player.

We went from Eriksen as essentially the sole creative force in the team, trying to split that between Lo Celso & Ndombele to Lo Celso. Not good enough.

Agree wholeheartedly. If Ndombele goes, we've got to replace him or we're leaving ourselves in a very vulnerable situation where if Lo Celso gets injured we're fucked.

 

[Blueluigi6]

The best ability is availability in my opinion

 

[Neon_Knight_]

The only way I accept losing Ndombele is if we sign Sabitzer - if we don't, Levy better be ready for a really strongly worded letter from yours truly

I'd accept Rakitic & Messi, if Barca is interested in Tanguy

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Agree wholeheartedly. If Ndombele goes, we've got to replace him or we're leaving ourselves in a very vulnerable situation where if Lo Celso gets injured we're fucked.

even if he stays we are still fucked if GLC get injured

 

[Montalbano]

even if he stays we are still fucked less fucked if GLC get injured

FYP

 

[WiganSpur]

Agree wholeheartedly. If Ndombele goes, we've got to replace him or we're leaving ourselves in a very vulnerable situation where if Lo Celso gets injured we're fucked.

I don't think we'll be vulnerable as such because hopefully this summer we'll have that solid core which should make us far more difficult to beat.

But I do believe a hard working, functional team is necessary but not sufficient to win. We'd pick up results all right, but we'll come unstuck in certain games if we don't add some more creative spark to the team.

I'd be happy if we managed to get a good player in on loan from one of the top clubs to keep us ticking over if we can't shift Ndombele then we can address it next summer.

 

[mil1lion]

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Well someone will have to let go of the French eventually.

Who did the translation , Dragon?

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

What gap?

We let go of Eriksen and brought in three attack minded players in Ndombele, Lo Celso and SB. OK we also needed to replace Dembele but now we have bought in PEH.

Lo Celso has played mostly where Ndombele was meant to play. I think we are fine for numbers. A bit more quality in attacking midfield I'm all for. But I don't think we are losing anything. Brozovic would be great, but he is not really an attacking midfielder. Far from it. He is most effective as a deep lying playmaker. With PEH Brozovic is less of a need, would still take him though, but can see why we would choose Skrinar, who is still criminally underrated by this forum.

Our gap would be if we lost Ndombele, a gap in terms of creative attacking midfield player, we lose him then really only Gio as a player than can really do it and unlock defences. We've already lost Eriksen, and losing Ndomebele leaves us far too light in the midfield in terms of quality creative, attacking, unlocking defences type of player.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

We shouldn’t swap our 23 year old, massively rated box to box central midfielder for either a 29 year old Brozovic who is only going to go down from here or Skriniar who has fallen out with the manager because he prefers 3 at the back. If it was 35m + Skriniar so we can buy a replacement for Ndombele then sure but there’s nothing to be gained from a swap deal with Inter. Just doesn’t match up for us.

 

[C0YS]

Our gap would be if we lost Ndombele, a gap in terms of creative attacking midfield player, we lose him then really on Gio as a plyer than can really do it and unlock defences. We've already lost Eriksen, and losing Ndomebele leaves us far too light in the midfield in terms of quality creative, attacking, unlocking defences type of player.

It really depends what the plan is. Plenty of succesful teams don't play with that kind of player, like you know, Liverpool for example. It depends how we decide we want to build attacks. If the manager want Ndombele out, which sounds like the case, then either we decide to look at another player or we go another direction. I suspect the latter is what we are trying to do based on the Ipswich game.

Brozovic could be an option, and I'm not against it, but again, he is a completely different type of player, plays much much deeper and would require us to set up in a different way again if we want to use him as a chance creator. If we are going to play with a deep double pivot, then he'd fit. If not, then he isn't a priority. Particularly considering his attitude problems.

 

[C0YS]

We shouldn’t swap our 23 year old, massively rated box to box central midfielder for either a 29 year old Brozovic who is only going to go down from here or Skriniar who has fallen out with the manager because he prefers 3 at the back. If it was 35m + Skriniar so we can buy a replacement for Ndombele then sure but there’s nothing to be gained from a swap deal with Inter. Just doesn’t match up for us.

Lets change it around. We shouldn't swap our massively rated best defender for two out of three of last seasons for a unproven bad dressing room presence, who fell out of favour because he couldn't give the effort required, simply because a manager doesn't fit in the system. If it was 35 million + Ndombele, so we can buy a top quality replacement CB then ok. Nothing to be gained here.

35m + skriniar would be insanity for inter and just the footballing world in general. It would the deal of the century. This is a guy who the previous manager said that they would only sell him for 120 million because he is worth that much to them.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

Lets change it around. We shouldn't swap our massively rated best defender for two out of three of last seasons for a unproven bad dressing room presence, who fell out of favour because he couldn't give the effort required, simply because a manager doesn't fit in the system. If it was 35 million + Ndombele, so we can buy a top quality replacement CB then ok. Nothing to be gained here.

35m + skriniar would be insanity for inter and just the footballing world in general. It would the deal of the century. This is a guy who the previous manager said that they would only sell him for 120 million because he is worth that much to them.

Who has fallen out in a similar way that Ndombele has. Nobody is doubting the talent of either but the fit. I’m saying that there isn’t a deal to be done with Inter - thats the point of my argument.

 

[Snarfalicious]

The best ability is availability in my opinion

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