Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Tucker]

I find him pretty inoffensive to be honest - not sure why people feel so strongly anti GLC

Yeah, I don’t get the vitriol. It just hasn’t worked out for him here. Good luck to him elsewhere.

The way some are carrying on it’s as if he’s the reincarnation of Harold Shipman. It’s so over the top and unnecessary.

 

[Styopa]

Not really though. Lo Celso and Ndombele both are very good players and were one of the best possible choices to buy in summer 2019. At the same time they are much more suited to play under Poch than Mourinho or Nuno.

I would say they are both tremendous talents but they were not right for the Premier League.

Lo Celso in particular this season has shown what a great player he can be in the right team and system.

Ultimately though they were massive flops for us and were emblematic of a very difficult and disappointing period for the club.

 

[djhotspur]

Any news on the loan fee?

 

[C1w8]

.....he's played well for Argentina and Villareal so that isnt exactly true.

This is why im sceptical a good season is going to make much difference to getting good money back like others are hoping.

Hes literally just done this and won Copa America (starting the final), and we couldnt shift him.

 

[Tucker]

This is why im sceptical a good season is going to make much difference to getting good money back like others are hoping.

Hes literally just done this and won Copa America (starting the final), and we couldnt shift him.

Our only hope of decent money is if the European clubs manage to turn their finances around somewhat. I don’t see that happening overnight.

 

[brasil_spur]

Not really though. Lo Celso and Ndombele both are very good players and were one of the best possible choices to buy in summer 2019. At the same time they are much more suited to play under Poch than Mourinho or Nuno.

True, at the time they were both good options, it just turned out that Lo Celso wasn’t suited to being a premier league footballer and Ndombele wasn’t suited to being a professional footballer. ?

 

[Derryank]

Astounding how poor he was in a Spurs shirt. Never seemed to truly put a shift in...nor care. Unlike an Argie....that said, when he put the shirt on, I wanted him to do well. Hopefully in Spain he can and will rediscover his form that has made his selection in the national team, relevant. Smart move by big Pat with the clause.... decent start to the season and WC...we can flog him for decent value in the January window.

I'll not miss this Argie

 

[DiVaio]

True, at the time they were both good options, it just turned out that Lo Celso wasn’t suited to being a premier league footballer and Ndombele wasn’t suited to being a professional footballer. ?

Yeah. Lo Celso during his 3 months at Villarreal was pretty good against likes of Real, LFC, Bayern, Juve, Barca or Sevilla but he apparenly can't do it in Premier League.

 

[dontcallme]

Yeah. Lo Celso during his 3 months at Villarreal was pretty good against likes of Real, LFC, Bayern, Juve, Barca or Sevilla but he apparenly can't do it in Premier League.

Your argument against saying that he can't do it in the Prem is that he performed well in Spain?

 

[Kalim]

It's often a case of the right footballer at the wrong club. Meaning a player can be more than decent but if the club he goes to Plas either a different style of football to eat suits him or plays him in a position that is not his best position he ends up looking bad.
I think this is the case here and under a different system playing in his best position he will look a half decent player.

 

[DiVaio]

Your argument against saying that he can't do it in the Prem is that he performed well in Spain?

Premier League really isn't some magical league and if he performed well against top teams in La Liga and Champions League.he really can do that against Brighton or Crystal Palace.

 

[Cel]

Premier League really isn't some magical league and if he performed well against top teams in La Liga and Champions League.he really can do that against Brighton or Crystal Palace.

But he hasn't played well against those teams though, time and time again whilst with us?

 

[HertsYid]

Ever since poch wanted him we all were patient as it looked there there was a proper player in there somewhere. Sadly he never did it in a spurs shirt. Early Injuries then managerial changes did him no favours.
In a settled side I think he may have shown his Argentina form but he never had a proper run and even when he got 3-4 games in a row he didn’t show his potential.
I always thought there was a 50m player in there but hey ho. He’s just one of them players who are suited to Spain and not the PL. I harbour no ill feelings tbh and hope we get a few quid back after a good loan and a positive World Cup

 

[dontcallme]

Premier League really isn't some magical league and if he performed well against top teams in La Liga and Champions League.he really can do that against Brighton or Crystal Palace.

But hasn't.

 

[spursfan77]

Yeah. Lo Celso during his 3 months at Villarreal was pretty good against likes of Real, LFC, Bayern, Juve, Barca or Sevilla but he apparenly can't do it in Premier League.

There’s no apparently about it. There is evidence though

 

[Spursmatty87]

Not really though. Lo Celso and Ndombele both are very good players and were one of the best possible choices to buy in summer 2019. At the same time they are much more suited to play under Poch than Mourinho or Nuno.

In what way was Ndombele suited to poch’s system? Obviously press resistance but couldn’t of coped with our pressing game under poch.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Unfortunately the CV of Lo Celso will always read , rejected by PSG , rejected by Conte .
When big money PL clubs like Spurs purchase from the rest of Europe there is usually a premium to pay on transfer fees and certainly we will see a loss on Lo Celso regardless of what he does in world cup.
Our dealings now with mainland European clubs do seem to have changed with Paratici in charge with mainly better value and quality so far .

 

[dontcallme]

In what way was Ndombele suited to poch’s system? Obviously press resistance but couldn’t of coped with our pressing game under poch.

Absolutely.

Poch's midfield choice was players with great physicality like Dembele and Wanyama. Unless Poch was looking to change, which he rarely looked like doing, they were the wrong signings for his system and formation, let alone anyone else's.

 

[spursfan77]

Absolutely.

Poch's midfield choice was players with great physicality like Dembele and Wanyama. Unless Poch was looking to change, which he rarely looked like doing, they were the wrong signings for his system and formation, let alone anyone else's.

Poch wanted them as he wanted to playing that fucking dreadful diamond with winks at the base, GLC and ndombele at the sides and Dele at the top. Imagine that midfield. It would be like the Man U one yesterday. Absolutely terrible.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Yeah. Lo Celso during his 3 months at Villarreal was pretty good against likes of Real, LFC, Bayern, Juve, Barca or Sevilla but he apparenly can't do it in Premier League.

As they have seem him up close in Spain on many occasions with R Betis & Villareal shame Real, Barca or Atletico don't offer £25 mil for Lo Celso , we would bite their hands off .