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Player Watch: Gareth Bale - Retires

wrd

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Then I am sorry for misunderstanding, please explain what difference does that makes? Does it means he’s focus wasn’t here to get game fit for the euros?

So the interviewer opens the question by saying you've already spoken about how happy you are about being back at spurs but if we can look to the summer

- This part is important because the interviewer is removing the need for Bale to clarify his undying love for Spurs and wants his answer to focus solely on how it pertains to Wales and the Euros.

She then asks if not knowing what's happening next season will be a distraction.

He then says "it's not a distraction and the reason he came to spurs was obviously (he's using obviously here in the context of "It should go without saying") he came to spurs was to play football first and foremost" - First and Foremost means most importantly, so that was the primary reason he came to spurs, to play football.

The reason he said this is within the bigger context of the fact he wasn't getting any games at Real Madrid so if you understand that context of he wasn't getting games at his parent club and came to Spurs to play football.

He then says "But" and the way he is using but is to mean; to answer your question yes going into the euros I wanted to be match fit.

Now this is the discrepancy that's being misrepresented. People are taking what he said as:

I wanted to come to spurs to play football So I can be match fit for the euros - which makes it sound like he only has one goal.

That's because as I said they're ignoring the part of "first and foremost" and "but" because what that does is makes it two goals - to play football again consistently and by doing so, I'll also be fit for the euros.

He's basically saying, he came to Spurs because he wanted to play football instead of sitting on the bench (which hasn't proved succesful) and yes part of his thinking was that by playing football he'll be fit for the euros but he absolutely did clarify that his main priority was simply to play football by using the words "first and foremost"

I have to remember that not every Spurs fan first language is English and that may be the case here; In which case I apologise if I came across rude and I've tried to answer this earnestly.
 
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BringBack_leGin

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He had started to play regularly though and Jose would have had to play him at some point regardless - Now is the perfect time to start picking up some mins in preparation for the competition hence why I said it's no co-incidence that he is starting to get into gear now.
Not sure Jose thinks he has to do anything.

Could it not be that he’s just getting into gear now because it took this long for Jose to have no excuse not to give him a run while he himself was never given the minutes to develop that fitness and form until recently (rightly or wrongly)?
 

BringBack_leGin

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So the interviewer opens the question by saying you've already spoken about how happy you are about being back at spurs but if we can look to the summer

- This part is important because the interviewer is removing the need for Bale to clarify his undying love for Spurs and wants his answer to focus solely on how it pertains to Wales and the Euros.

She then asks if not knowing what's happening next season will be a distraction.

He then says "it's not a distraction and the reason he came to spurs was obviously (he's using obviously here in the context of "It should go without saying") he came to spurs was to play football first and foremost" - First and Foremost means most importantly, so that was the primary reason he came to spurs was to play football.

The reason he said this is within the bigger context of the fact he wasn't getting any games at Real Madrid so if you understand that context of he wasn't getting games at his parent club and came to Spurs to play football.

He then says "But" and the way he is using but is to mean; to answer your question yes going into the euros I wanted to be match fit.

Now this is the discrepancy that's being misrepresented. People are taking what he said as:

I wanted to come to spurs to play football So I can be match fit for the euros - which makes it sound like he only has one goal.

That's because as I said they're ignoring the part of "first and foremost" and "but" because what that does is makes it two goals - to play football again consistently and by doing so, I'll also be fit for the euros.

He's basically saying, he came to Spurs because he wanted to play football instead of sitting on the bench (which hasn't proved succesful) and yes part of his thinking was that by playing football he'll be fit for the euros but he absolutely did clarify that his main priority was simply to play football by using the words "first and foremost"

I have to remember that not every Spurs fan first language is English and that may be the case here; In which case I apologise if I came across rude and I've tried to answer this earnestly.
Stop speaking such truths! This place is not about fact or tangible event, it’s about fantasy and convolution!
 

The Doc

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He probably thought that people listening would have the language comprehension to understand what "first and foremost" and "but" meant in response to a question. Foolish of him admittedly.
Isn't it just? Honestly, the readiness for people to be offended by the most innocuous statement imaginable, esp online, is frickin hilarious.
 

nico97531

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So the interviewer opens the question by saying you've already spoken about how happy you are about being back at spurs but if we can look to the summer

- This part is important because the interviewer is removing the need for Bale to clarify his undying love for Spurs and wants his answer to focus solely on how it pertains to Wales and the Euros.

She then asks if not knowing what's happening next season will be a distraction.

He then says "it's not a distraction and the reason he came to spurs was obviously (he's using obviously here in the context of "It should go without saying") he came to spurs was to play football first and foremost" - First and Foremost means most importantly, so that was the primary reason he came to spurs was to play football.

The reason he said this is within the bigger context of the fact he wasn't getting any games at Real Madrid so if you understand that context of he wasn't getting games at his parent club and came to Spurs to play football.

He then says "But" and the way he is using but is to mean; to answer your question yes going into the euros I wanted to be match fit.

Now this is the discrepancy that's being misrepresented. People are taking what he said as:

I wanted to come to spurs to play football So I can be match fit for the euros - which makes it sound like he only has one goal.

That's because as I said they're ignoring the part of "first and foremost" and "but" because what that does is makes it two goals - to play football again consistently and by doing so, I'll also be fit for the euros.

He's basically saying, he came to Spurs because he wanted to play football instead of sitting on the bench (which hasn't proved succesful) and yes part of his thinking was that by playing football he'll be fit for the euros but he absolutely did clarify that his main priority was simply to play football by using the words "first and foremost"

I have to remember that not every Spurs fan first language is English and that may be the case here; In which case I apologise if I came across rude and I've tried to answer this earnestly.
Thank you for the thorough explanation, this makes it clearer for me and your right that English isn’t my first language.
 

spids

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He won't be running about like a headless chicken. His role at Wales has almost always been very much geared around conserving his energy for attacking- and attacking alone. He'll do the bare minimum of getting back into shape if he's playing off the right but can imagine him being left up top with almost no responsibility/ expectation to press.

And if they are defending a 1-0 lead with 10 mins to go?
 

wrd

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Thank you for the thorough explanation, this makes it clearer for me and your right that English isn’t my first language.

Yeah I'm pretty confident your language comprehension of English is significantly better than my attempt at any other language :LOL: When I read your username I thought it best to consider that aspect, sometimes easy to forget that Spurs have fans worldwide these days. Glad it helped.
 

wrd

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Isn't it just? Honestly, the readiness for people to be offended by the most innocuous statement imaginable, esp online, is frickin hilarious.

Yeah honestly, watching the reaction to this and the Jose situation with Terry does make me think they should know that we football fans are excellent at managing to take everything personally and have the emotional intelligence of a 3 year who's managed to get their hands on cocaine :LOL:

Every action they make or interview they give will be under the microscope of football fans who are desperate to be upset about something.
 

Shadydan

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Not sure Jose thinks he has to do anything.

Could it not be that he’s just getting into gear now because it took this long for Jose to have no excuse not to give him a run while he himself was never given the minutes to develop that fitness and form until recently (rightly or wrongly)?

Possibly but this is going back to the arguments that we've had before of whether he's shown anything to deserve the minutes.

Funny thing is that he was given a run of matches in October and November which everyone seems to have forgotten about/ignoring regardless of that and didn't look anywhere near match fit then. Maybe...possibly he hasn't been fit enough to play matches until recently...?

He didn't even need that many matches to click into gear recently which tells you he has only been match fit now.
 

spids

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I'd think people are reading too much into his interview for a number of reasons

Firstly, he is answering questions at a Wales national team press conference with the onus on the Euros and whether his club situation will be a distraction for him. His focus was to say he was 100% focused on Wales and fit and raring to go.

Secondly, he has probably spent much of the last 2 years being told exactly what he should and should not say by his agent. I am sure Real Madrid lawyers will be looking for any excuse to tear up his contract. So of course he was going to say the plan was to come for a year at Spurs and then return to Madrid.

...but, he clearly has not applied himself with 100% intensity all season and is a luxury player who wants to have a swan song with Wales at the Euros's this year and the WC next summer before retiring. If Wales have a stinker in the WC qualifiers and they will not qualify for the WC expect him to give up any pretence of effort next season wherever he is.
 

Timbo Tottenham

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So the interviewer opens the question by saying you've already spoken about how happy you are about being back at spurs but if we can look to the summer

- This part is important because the interviewer is removing the need for Bale to clarify his undying love for Spurs and wants his answer to focus solely on how it pertains to Wales and the Euros.

She then asks if not knowing what's happening next season will be a distraction.

He then says "it's not a distraction and the reason he came to spurs was obviously (he's using obviously here in the context of "It should go without saying") he came to spurs was to play football first and foremost" - First and Foremost means most importantly, so that was the primary reason he came to spurs, to play football.

The reason he said this is within the bigger context of the fact he wasn't getting any games at Real Madrid so if you understand that context of he wasn't getting games at his parent club and came to Spurs to play football.

He then says "But" and the way he is using but is to mean; to answer your question yes going into the euros I wanted to be match fit.

Now this is the discrepancy that's being misrepresented. People are taking what he said as:

I wanted to come to spurs to play football So I can be match fit for the euros - which makes it sound like he only has one goal.

That's because as I said they're ignoring the part of "first and foremost" and "but" because what that does is makes it two goals - to play football again consistently and by doing so, I'll also be fit for the euros.

He's basically saying, he came to Spurs because he wanted to play football instead of sitting on the bench (which hasn't proved succesful) and yes part of his thinking was that by playing football he'll be fit for the euros but he absolutely did clarify that his main priority was simply to play football by using the words "first and foremost"

I have to remember that not every Spurs fan first language is English and that may be the case here; In which case I apologise if I came across rude and I've tried to answer this earnestly.
Can we just lock the thread and wait for this to sink in?
 

BringBack_leGin

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Possibly but this is going back to the arguments that we've had before of whether he's shown anything to deserve the minutes.

Funny thing is that he was given a run of matches in October and November which everyone seems to have forgotten about/ignoring regardless of that and didn't look anywhere near match fit then. Maybe...possibly he hasn't been fit enough to play matches until recently...?

He didn't even need that many matches to click into gear recently which tells you he has only been match fit now.
I just think that it’s a stretch to suggest that he’s been aiming all along to only hit form and fitness 2/3 through the season.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I wouldn't say he's done exactly the same thing here but he has shown his level of commitment and has opened my eyes to see what he's truly like as a professional.

We could do without those characters in our dressing room if you ask me.


Indeed.


Gold has claimed that the Spurs players and the staff have been left impressed by the Welshman in training.

“Bale certainly says he still does. Staff and players have been blown away by what he’s been doing in training. I’m told he’s been “another level” at Hotspur Way this week,” wrote Gold for Football London.


https://sportslens.com/gareth-bale-has-impressed-heavily-in-training/318029/
 

Shadydan

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CoopsieDeadpool

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So the interviewer opens the question by saying you've already spoken about how happy you are about being back at spurs but if we can look to the summer

- This part is important because the interviewer is removing the need for Bale to clarify his undying love for Spurs and wants his answer to focus solely on how it pertains to Wales and the Euros.

She then asks if not knowing what's happening next season will be a distraction.

He then says "it's not a distraction and the reason he came to spurs was obviously (he's using obviously here in the context of "It should go without saying") he came to spurs was to play football first and foremost" - First and Foremost means most importantly, so that was the primary reason he came to spurs, to play football.

The reason he said this is within the bigger context of the fact he wasn't getting any games at Real Madrid so if you understand that context of he wasn't getting games at his parent club and came to Spurs to play football.

He then says "But" and the way he is using but is to mean; to answer your question yes going into the euros I wanted to be match fit.

Now this is the discrepancy that's being misrepresented. People are taking what he said as:

I wanted to come to spurs to play football So I can be match fit for the euros - which makes it sound like he only has one goal.

That's because as I said they're ignoring the part of "first and foremost" and "but" because what that does is makes it two goals - to play football again consistently and by doing so, I'll also be fit for the euros.

He's basically saying, he came to Spurs because he wanted to play football instead of sitting on the bench (which hasn't proved succesful) and yes part of his thinking was that by playing football he'll be fit for the euros but he absolutely did clarify that his main priority was simply to play football by using the words "first and foremost"

I have to remember that not every Spurs fan first language is English and that may be the case here; In which case I apologise if I came across rude and I've tried to answer this earnestly.



 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Not sure Jose thinks he has to do anything.

Could it not be that he’s just getting into gear now because it took this long for Jose to have no excuse not to give him a run while he himself was never given the minutes to develop that fitness and form until recently (rightly or wrongly)?


The irony of this whole thread, is that Mourinho could quite easily be down the Jobcentre if it wasn't for Bales part in the so called mini-revival the team experienced.

Goals & assists aplenty.

It's a funny old game.
 

Shadydan

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The irony of this whole thread, is that Mourinho could quite easily be down the Jobcentre if it wasn't for Bales part in the so called mini-revival the team experienced.

Goals & assists aplenty.

It's a funny old game.

We'd probably be 3 points better off and still in the Europa League and the squad harmony would have been better ;)

We can all make hyperbolic statements mate :D
 

faymantaray

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We'd probably be 3 points better off and still in the Europa League and the squad harmony would have been better ;)

We can all make hyperbolic statements mate :D

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CoopsieDeadpool

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You're quoting Alli Gold again...


Well my sincerest apologies.

I'll ignore Gold then & just go with Mourinho. He's ok as a source, yeah?

"A player that gives me this kind of performance of course I want to play him on Thursday and on Sunday, and I want to play him next week against Dinamo Zagreb but I don't think I can. I don't think I can," Mourinho said.


Wow, he's absolutely fucking fuming at the lazy ****.

 
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