Player Watch: Gareth Bale - Retires

[CoopsieDeadpool]

We'd probably be 3 points better off and still in the Europa League and the squad harmony would have been better

We can all make hyperbolic statements mate

Of course. I forgot Bale kept selecting himself, Dier, Winks, Sissoko & The D word.

I must apologise for both my hyperbolic statements & monumental oversights.

 

[Shadydan]

Well my sincerest apologies.

I'll ignore Gold then & just go with Mourinho. He's ok as a source, yeah?

"A player that gives me this kind of performance of course I want to play him on Thursday and on Sunday, and I want to play him next week against Dinamo Zagreb but I don't think I can. I don't think I can," Mourinho said.


Wow, he's absolutely fucking fuming at the lazy ****.

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You're making this far too easy for me

You're using the quotes of the manger who has hauled him off many times this season and hasn't in many people's opinion hasn't given him a run of games, a guy you called a monumental prick? The guy that we practically believe plays mind games and says calculated stuff and yet you want to use him as a source

The clue is in the quote regardless, he said that after the Burnley match where he played well and actually did his job. If a handful of matches shows a decent level of commitment then me and you have far different expectations, that's the kindest I can be.

 

[Shadydan]

Of course. I forgot Bale kept selecting himself, Dier, Winks, Sissoko & The D word.

I must apologise for both my hyperbolic statements & monumental oversights.

You've lost me - I don't even know what this is meant to mean?

Maybe if you cut down on the sarcasm because half the time I can't tell whether you're being serious or making a valid point, it doesn't help you or your argument as much as you want to believe.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

You're making this far too easy for me

You're using the quotes of the manger who has hauled him off many times this season and hasn't in many people's opinion hasn't given him a run of games, a guy you called a monumental prick? The guy that we practically believe plays mind games and says calculated stuff and yet you want to use him as a source

The clue is in the quote regardless, he said that after the Burnley match where he played well and actually did his job. If a handful of matches shows a decent level of commitment then me and you have far different expectations, that's the kindest I can be.

So we pay attention to Mourinho when he says about things that "can not be cured by coaching" etc etc. But we don't pay attention when he's praising players.

I've got it now.

You've lost me - I don't even know what this is meant to mean?

Maybe if you cut down on the sarcasm because half the time I can't tell whether you're being serious or making a valid point, it doesn't help you or your argument as much as you want to believe.

It really wasn't difficult. You said we'd probably be 3 points better off & soon in the EL if squad harmony was better.

That was in response to my post about Bale being a massive part in the mini-revival that probably saved Mourinhos job.

So, you're therefore indirectly blaming Bale for the crashing out of the EL, not having 3 points more in the PL and also the squad disharmony. All whilst totally ignoring/dismissing his part in the wins that possibly saved Mourinhos job.


As for the final bit in bold. That's exactly what the people who know me best ALWAYS say.

Oh & whether it's on here or in the real world, one thing I NEVER do, is argue. I'll talk, I'll debate to a point but, as soon as an argument seems likely I'll walk away.

 

[Shadydan]

So we pay attention to Mourinho when he says about things that "can not be cured by coaching" etc etc. But we don't pay attention when he's praising players.

I've got it now.




It really wasn't difficult. You said we'd probably be 3 points better off & soon in the EL if squad harmony was better.

That was in response to my post about Bale being a massive part in the mini-revival that probably saved Mourinhos job.

So, you're therefore indirectly blaming Bale for the crashing out of the EL, not having 3 points more in the PL and also the squad disharmony. All whilst totally ignoring/dismissing his part in the wins that possibly saved Mourinhos job.


As for the final bit in bold. That's exactly what the people who know me best ALWAYS say.

Oh & whether it's on here or in the real world, one thing I NEVER do, is argue. I'll talk, I'll debate to a point but, as soon as an argument seems likely I'll walk away.

I pay attention to Jose's actions not his words, if you want choose to naively pay attention to what he says half the time then that's your doing, I look at what he does and how he manages. Look at the amount of matches Bale has played this season for one, look how many times he's been hauled off by the manager, 3/4 good matches doesn't change the fact that the majority of his time here has been a flop and he hasn't been good enough and when he has been hauled off he hasn't look interested.

I was making a point about your statement being hyperbolic by being equally as hyperbolic in the first place, I would have thought someone as smart as you would have got that but nevermind..Bale did contribute to us winning those matches which I agree but he wasn't the sole reason why we won those matches like you're implying so you can make up your little fairytale's just because it might sound good and sits in line with your ag.....it doesn't make your theory correct.

And again if you actually read the quotes that you actually posted he was speaking in particular after the Burnley match where Bale played well, that's the level of professionalism we should all be seeking when he plays, not in dribs and drabs so either way it doesn't do anything for your point regardless.

Keep being patronising though if it makes you feel better.

 

[Gilzean at the near post]

In terms of team unity etc I don't know what has been happening recently, pre or post european exit, however I do feel Bale was unlucky to be left out against Aston Villa.

Bale has played really well recently and been influential in our upturn pre the Arsenal match, scoring and creating plenty. He didn't play well against Arsenal but none of his team mates did and when he came on in the Zagreb tie I thought he genuinely tried to make things happen. It didn't work but it didn't work for anyone else either. I think there has to be some blame on Mourinho as if he had wanted the 'front foot' performance then why pick Winks and Sissoko as a central midfield pairing?

I'd like to see Bale back in the starting eleven as the team has more goals and creativity when he plays but I am sensing discord with the manager which has been there all season

The comment made earlier saying Bales performances probably saved Mourinho's job after the West Ham defeat are spot on

 

[agrdavidsfan]

He doesn't like Jose,

He is just playing poker, if he says I want to be at spurs next year Madrid start making silly demands but on the same hand he knows if Jose is still here he probably doesn't really want to be here either.

It's a long waiting game for him.

He has his eye on the MLS & Beckham's team, but he knows he needs to be a free agent for that.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

He has also just re-clarified the quotes before the game

"as far as I know I am going back to real Madrid at the end of the season" or words to that effect

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Just created a goal for Wales sublime amazing what happens when you let him be Bale

 

[chas vs dave]

Just created a goal for Wales sublime amazing what happens when you let him be Bale

He can't track back, and should be playing as a number 10/false 9 imo

 

[Montalbano]

Just created a goal for Wales sublime amazing what happens when you let him be Bale

Fantastic assist against the highest rated team in international football. World class player. Hope we get to see plenty more of him in a Spurs shirt this season, irregardless of whether he is here next season or not.

 

[rez9000]

Honestly don't understand why these comments are controversial. He said when he joined us that the main reason was to play, he isn't being played regularly so why would he consider extending the loan?

We shouldn't have signed him in the first place with Jose in charge, Jose has never looked like he's a player he wanted or trusted, I think he was fairly obviously a Levy signing with not much input from Jose.

He came back to play as a result of regaining his fitness and form - that was always part of the process.

That's why judging his output over the whole of the season is unwise - he was starting from a long way back and Jose specifically said there was the psychological barrier to get over, which you can't measure. We saw in the last few games that he seems to have resolved those issues and the physical ones. How he plays for the rest of the season along with what he's done recently will be a better barometer of where he is as a player.

As for Jose not wanting him that doesn't square with his recent comments that he would intend to play Bale almost every game.

I also think it's worth us all remembering that since he has had his recent renaissance (for want of a better phrase), he's only not played in one game - against Villa.

What he said is ultimately still statement of fact. What the meaning (or if there is any other meaning) behind it is simply impossible to determine. Maybe we shouldn't be too forensic in trying to deconstruct it. Seems like a bit of a fool's errand.

Could he go back to Madrid and never come back? Yes, of course. Could he choose to spend a second year (or even more) at Spurs? Likewise, yes. Is his form over the whole season a fair barometer of where he currently as a player? No. Can we know where he is as a player until we've seen more of him? No.

Let's see if he's gets on the pitch after the international break and how he plays then and let's see what happens at the end of the season regarding where he will be playing next season.

Fair?

 

[spursfan77]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with what he said. Especially when you actually watch the video of him talking rather than reading them online.

I just wanted to see him play live again and COVID has robbed us of that. If he’s not here next season, which is probably likely then it’s bloody annoying from that perspective.

 

[Goobers]

I agree I don't think what he said was in anyway surprising. He is still, after all, a Real Madrid player. Personally I think for many reasons there is a good chance he is still at Spurs again next season. Judging on his form over the last two months - that would be fine with me too.

 

[DCSPUR64]

Now Bale and Wales are losing against Belgium.

 

[bubble07]

He doesn't like Jose,

He is just playing poker, if he says I want to be at spurs next year Madrid start making silly demands but on the same hand he knows if Jose is still here he probably doesn't really want to be here either.

It's a long waiting game for him.

He has his eye on the MLS & Beckham's team, but he knows he needs to be a free agent for that.

Prior to joining us he was saying how great mourinho was. I guess opinions can change

 

[bubble07]

I agree I don't think what he said was in anyway surprising. He is still, after all, a Real Madrid player. Personally I think for many reasons there is a good chance he is still at Spurs again next season. Judging on his form over the last two months - that would be fine with me too.

It was such a basic question he was asked. He either doesn't care or is a bit stupid. There are so many textbook answers to say rather than what he did say

 

[bubble07]

Bale skinned Super Jan with ease just now

 

[Goobers]

Bale skinned Super Jan with ease just now

Well he still has immense quality

 

[DCSPUR64]

I am watching Gareth to see if he is running back when losing the ball?