Player Watch: Emerson Royal

[rossdapep]

Is Rudy Galetti reliable? Thinks Juve are interested .

I do think wonder if Paratici had him on his list for Juve and because he needed a quick RB transfer decided to move for him? Or if it was Hitchen?

Actually think he'd suit Juve.

 

[bubble07]

Is Rudy Galetti reliable? Thinks Juve are interested .

I do think wonder if Paratici had him on his list for Juve and because he needed a quick RB transfer decided to move for him? Or if it was Hitchen?

Actually think he'd suit Juve.

Not sure how reliable. But he did post this in August

Just a few economic details and Ilaix #Moriba will be a new #Tottenham player (4-years contract). Agreement with #Barcelona, based on around €15M, is almost reached. #RealMadrid and #RBLeipzig

 

[rossdapep]

Not sure how reliable. But he did post this in August

Just a few economic details and Ilaix #Moriba will be a new #Tottenham player (4-years contract). Agreement with #Barcelona, based on around €15M, is almost reached. #RealMadrid and #RBLeipzig

I seem to remember that actually. I always forget the names of these journos so can't remember who called what.

 

[dannythomas]

Indeed but I'm just making the point that it's not as simple as one being better than the other. One is better defending and the other in attack. I think in a 343 you can afford to have a more defensive wing back on one side particularly if it allows someone like Romero to get forward. I think the trio of Romero, Emerson and Kulusevski works really well and there's a good balance. Sadly the alternatives are Sanchez and Moura which is a big drop off and a different set of skills between them. That's when the lack of attacking quality from Emerson is an issue because Sanchez can't do the attacking and Moura lacks the hold up and technical ability. I'm actually encouraged by how Dier has been used the last few games coming forward from right centre back. If we go back to 343 with Deki back up top then Dier filling in for Romero would fill that attacking link from right centre back. I'm happy for Emerson to play if we have Romero/Dier right centre back and Deki up top. Otherwise we need a more attacking right wing back if the right centre back can't come forward or if we play 352 and lose a forward. That's why it's not easy to sort of say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough' as has often been the case. It depends on the system and players around him because he's not a bad player just not offering much going forward.

Let me just ask you how many crosses Emerson haș provided like the one Aurier did for Forest’s second goal ? We have a wing back who can‘t cross the ball. No wonder the opposition are happy to let him have the ball. I‘m not saying Aurier is great either . But based on the promising 30 minutes we saw From Spence yesterday all I can say is that he must be really bad in training to not get any minutes On the pitch.

 

[jolsnogross]

Indeed but I'm just making the point that it's not as simple as one being better than the other. One is better defending and the other in attack. I think in a 343 you can afford to have a more defensive wing back on one side particularly if it allows someone like Romero to get forward. I think the trio of Romero, Emerson and Kulusevski works really well and there's a good balance. Sadly the alternatives are Sanchez and Moura which is a big drop off and a different set of skills between them. That's when the lack of attacking quality from Emerson is an issue because Sanchez can't do the attacking and Moura lacks the hold up and technical ability. I'm actually encouraged by how Dier has been used the last few games coming forward from right centre back. If we go back to 343 with Deki back up top then Dier filling in for Romero would fill that attacking link from right centre back. I'm happy for Emerson to play if we have Romero/Dier right centre back and Deki up top. Otherwise we need a more attacking right wing back if the right centre back can't come forward or if we play 352 and lose a forward. That's why it's not easy to sort of say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough' as has often been the case. It depends on the system and players around him because he's not a bad player just not offering much going forward.

It really is easy to say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough". Because it's true. You have no support for the idea that he is a solid defender, or a better defender than our two other alternatives. The narrative that he can defend competently appears often on this site and seems to be based on the idea that his defending isn't as terrible as his attacking. In both cases, they are incredibly poor and he was a train wreck against Liverpool, adding to a litany of atrocious performances all season long. He is easily targeted by opponents when they attack, and easily ignored by opponents when we attack. To comedic levels nowadays, whereby Liverpool had the run of their left side when in possession and easily drifted past him, while they gave him the freedom of WHL when he had the ball and he invariably lost it or rolled it backwards.

There's no 12-dimensional tactical chess here in terms of who plays along our right hand side with him. He's not up to it. He shouldn't be playing. That Conte persists with him could be job-threateningly dumb/stubborn if that continues to the end of the season.

 

[spurmin]

It really is easy to say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough". Because it's true. You have no support for the idea that he is a solid defender, or a better defender than our two other alternatives. The narrative that he can defend competently appears often on this site and seems to be based on the idea that his defending isn't as terrible as his attacking. In both cases, they are incredibly poor and he was a train wreck against Liverpool, adding to a litany of atrocious performances all season long. He is easily targeted by opponents when they attack, and easily ignored by opponents when we attack. To comedic levels nowadays, whereby Liverpool had the run of their left side when in possession and easily drifted past him, while they gave him the freedom of WHL when he had the ball and he invariably lost it or rolled it backwards.

There's no 12-dimensional tactical chess here in terms of who plays along our right hand side with him. He's not up to it. He shouldn't be playing. That Conte persists with him could be job-threateningly dumb/stubborn if that continues to the end of the season.

Got to love the people who know better than that dumb stubborn manager.

 

[Finchyid]

It really is easy to say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough". Because it's true. You have no support for the idea that he is a solid defender, or a better defender than our two other alternatives. The narrative that he can defend competently appears often on this site and seems to be based on the idea that his defending isn't as terrible as his attacking. In both cases, they are incredibly poor and he was a train wreck against Liverpool, adding to a litany of atrocious performances all season long. He is easily targeted by opponents when they attack, and easily ignored by opponents when we attack. To comedic levels nowadays, whereby Liverpool had the run of their left side when in possession and easily drifted past him, while they gave him the freedom of WHL when he had the ball and he invariably lost it or rolled it backwards.

There's no 12-dimensional tactical chess here in terms of who plays along our right hand side with him. He's not up to it. He shouldn't be playing. That Conte persists with him could be job-threateningly dumb/stubborn if that continues to the end of the season.

We played a bang average forest an Doherty was even worse

 

[WeGotLedley]

It really is easy to say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough". Because it's true. You have no support for the idea that he is a solid defender, or a better defender than our two other alternatives. The narrative that he can defend competently appears often on this site and seems to be based on the idea that his defending isn't as terrible as his attacking. In both cases, they are incredibly poor and he was a train wreck against Liverpool, adding to a litany of atrocious performances all season long. He is easily targeted by opponents when they attack, and easily ignored by opponents when we attack. To comedic levels nowadays, whereby Liverpool had the run of their left side when in possession and easily drifted past him, while they gave him the freedom of WHL when he had the ball and he invariably lost it or rolled it backwards.

There's no 12-dimensional tactical chess here in terms of who plays along our right hand side with him. He's not up to it. He shouldn't be playing. That Conte persists with him could be job-threateningly dumb/stubborn if that continues to the end of the season.

I Dont think it's fair to say his defending is poor. Though do think it's not great. You can see this most when he plays in front of sanchez. He regularly gets totally out if position, and leaves bambi stranded. It just looks like his instincts are to drop to a RB position. Saying which, maybe at the expected level, that's just poor...
The thing that's clear is he just isn't good enough, we need better in Jan. End of.

 

[mil1lion]

It really is easy to say "drop Emerson, he's not good enough". Because it's true. You have no support for the idea that he is a solid defender, or a better defender than our two other alternatives. The narrative that he can defend competently appears often on this site and seems to be based on the idea that his defending isn't as terrible as his attacking. In both cases, they are incredibly poor and he was a train wreck against Liverpool, adding to a litany of atrocious performances all season long. He is easily targeted by opponents when they attack, and easily ignored by opponents when we attack. To comedic levels nowadays, whereby Liverpool had the run of their left side when in possession and easily drifted past him, while they gave him the freedom of WHL when he had the ball and he invariably lost it or rolled it backwards.

There's no 12-dimensional tactical chess here in terms of who plays along our right hand side with him. He's not up to it. He shouldn't be playing. That Conte persists with him could be job-threateningly dumb/stubborn if that continues to the end of the season.

Well you obviously know better than Conte then

 

[djhotspur]

We played a bang average forest an Doherty was even worse

I think with Doherty he needs dribblers around him. he's never going to have the pace or dribbling to beat players, but what doherty does have is very very good movement and ability to get into good positions to shoot etc. I think when kulu plays, Doherty looks good as defender are worried about him, but when the other attacker is Skipp... he's never going to thrive.

If you play a 3 5 2 I think the wing backs have to have serious pace and dribbling to create the width and overlaps and cause problems to drag defenders wide, whereas we haven't go that so it means we are so easy to defend.

Spence, although he has poor movement, has the pace to drag defenders wide and beat them, but he weirdly doesn't look to overlap or really run in behind. So its catch 22 as if he had the movement or attacking impetus he would be perfect.

Emerson, doesn't have the dribbling but has good movement and enough pace and energy to create space, but again needs the player ahead of him or inside him to have the ability to create from emersons energy getting us further up the pitch and creating the space via overlaps.

We basically need a mix of all 3 players moulded into one player.

 

[DarwinSpur]

Yassss!!!!

My man, Pascal Chimbonda just driving by with some TRUTH BOMBS for all you Emerson HATERZZZZ

Pascal Chimbonda delivers surprising Emerson Royal take and has Djed Spence plan

The former Tottenham Hotspur full-back has been speaking about the current incumbents of the role at the north London club as Antonio Conte struggles to find his first choice

www.football.london

And because you're all haterz you have click on football.london website for your sins.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I think with Doherty he needs dribblers around him. he's never going to have the pace or dribbling to beat players, but what doherty does have is very very good movement and ability to get into good positions to shoot etc. I think when kulu plays, Doherty looks good as defender are worried about him, but when the other attacker is Skipp... he's never going to thrive.

If you play a 3 5 2 I think the wing backs have to have serious pace and dribbling to create the width and overlaps and cause problems to drag defenders wide, whereas we haven't go that so it means we are so easy to defend.

Spence, although he has poor movement, has the pace to drag defenders wide and beat them, but he weirdly doesn't look to overlap or really run in behind. So its catch 22 as if he had the movement or attacking impetus he would be perfect.

Emerson, doesn't have the dribbling but has good movement and enough pace and energy to create space, but again needs the player ahead of him or inside him to have the ability to create from emersons energy getting us further up the pitch and creating the space via overlaps.

We basically need a mix of all 3 players moulded into one player.

You are judging Spence on his minutes against Forest presumably?!!

Because last season for Forest and for England U21s he’s shown very good overlapping movement at times. Still has work to do but he’s barely played. He learns the team patterns best by actually bloody playing, even if it’s 20/30 mins off the bench regularly.

 

[SlotBadger]

Yassss!!!!

My man, Pascal Chimbonda just driving by with some TRUTH BOMBS for all you Emerson HATERZZZZ

Pascal Chimbonda delivers surprising Emerson Royal take and has Djed Spence plan

The former Tottenham Hotspur full-back has been speaking about the current incumbents of the role at the north London club as Antonio Conte struggles to find his first choice

www.football.london

And because you're all haterz you have click on football.london website for your sins.

Footballing oracle Pascal Chimbonda thinks Emerson Royal is better at attacking than defending

 

[spurmin]

Footballing oracle Pascal Chimbonda thinks Emerson Royal is better at attacking than defending

But has played football in that position at a high level.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

But has played football in that position at a high level.

All that proves that is that pro players don’t necessarily have a clue about the game outside of playing. Think about all the rubbish we hear people like McManaman, Cole, Sherwood, Redknapp etc come out with.

If he genuinely thinks Emerson is better going forward than defensively he’s either lazy and hasn’t watched him play or he has no understanding of the game from a tactical/analysis point of view.

For all the criticism Emerson gets, I don’t think there’s a single Spurs fan out there who would say Emerson is better attacking than he is defensively.

 

[spurs mental]

Would like him to leave soon.

 

[H-SF]

Getting embarassing now. Conte digging his own grave playing him every week unfortunately.

 

[spurs mental]

So the chances he had first half

1) Kulu cut back: he kicked against his own leg.
2) Davies cut back onto the penalty spot: Out of the stadium

Not to mention defensively:

1) Nowhere for the first goal
2) on one of their attacks (although ruled offside) he was jogging into position and the pass through went by him because he didn't press their attacker.

Honestly if anyone defends this guy anymore they watch football with their eyes closed.

Tramezzani wasn't this bad.

Also this work of art

 

[Albertbarich]

In a back four where he can play a system with the winger doing all the attacking I think he would be solid.

But he is never ever a wing back.

 

[wspur]

He's getting worse every game. The fans are not helping him gain any confidence but he's a professional...