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THOWIG

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Elaborate as I dont fully understand your meaning friend.

Bale is the golden boy that can do no wrong. Neville is the ugly duckling who is still remembered for a badly timed tackle well over ten years ago. The reality is Neville showed up Bale's limitations as a footballer and where he has to adapt in two games this season.
 

pistolP

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Maybe he's being brought in to replace Charlie because we got a good offer for him from Juventus? i mean if we get say 7-9 million for Charlie and get Neville for 2 million theres more money to put towards a striker. It would seem like something Levy would do.

No, it does not look like something Levy will do, more like what Harry will do.
 

pistolP

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Sound business sense. Sell Corluka for a decent sum, get neville in for next to nothing. Experience and leadership both in training and on the field. He can play left back, right back, CM and at a push CB.

I think we should do away with youth policy since we have abandoned it or at the least, stop pretending that we still have one.
 

DoublePivot

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The theme I am really reading here is based on Bale. According to most of you Maicon isn't worthy of Bath F.C. while Neville might be better than Roberto Carlos, based on 3 games. That's you're sample pool and this is definitely you're outcome Neville>Maicon.

I'm not saying that we are in for Maicon, where its a choice, only that you've made some ludicrous assumptions based on performances against Bale.

Phil Neville is 34 in a week. 34! His mate is 35. Harry brought us an inconsistent 33 year old defender. He wants 30 year old Parker and 32 year old Anelka.

It's not a worrying trend. It's a disturbing one. One guy to help the training room is great. This many is bad for a team built on speed and counter.
 

WhiteStripe

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I think we should do away with youth policy since we have abandoned it or at the least, stop pretending that we still have one.

How have we abandoned the youth policy? Currently in the first team squad we have;
Gareth Bale, Aaron lennon, Tom Huddlestone, Michael Dawson, BAE, Sandro all brought into the club as youngesters.

We have out on loan;
Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, Danny Rose, John Obika, John Bostock, Jake livermore, Andros Townsend (just recalled), Steven Caulker, Harry Kane, Paul-Jose M'Poku and others I have probably missed.

How have we abandoned our youth policy?
 

danielneeds

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Again, all the wailing and gnashing of teeth on here is by those who would like all our squad to be full of 23 year old next big things. You need gnarled and experienced pros if you want to compete on potentially three fronts in the run in. You need players who make sure standards don't slip in others, who know how to close out games, and when to take fouls for team.

Of course it is all about balance, and I wouldn't want a team of Phil Nevilles (imagine that Eek), but we still have a predominantly young squad. After Keane leaves, Gallas, Cuducini, and the forever stricken King are the only over 30s I can think of.
 

pistolP

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How have we abandoned the youth policy? Currently in the first team squad we have;
Gareth Bale, Aaron lennon, Tom Huddlestone, Michael Dawson, BAE, Sandro all brought into the club as youngesters.

We have out on loan;
Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, Danny Rose, John Obika, John Bostock, Jake livermore, Andros Townsend (just recalled), Steven Caulker, Harry Kane, Paul-Jose M'Poku and others I have probably missed.

How have we abandoned our youth policy?

But if we keep signing the over 33 years of age, we might as well do away with youth policy. Moreover, i am not saying that we have abandoned it yet but might as well, if the trend is to buy the 33-35 years old.
 

WhiteStripe

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But if we keep signing the over 33 years of age, we might as well do away with youth policy. Moreover, i am not saying that we have abandoned it yet but might as well, if the trend is to buy the 33-35 years old.
Again, 33-35 year olds is not really the trend is it? get a grip man, we've signed one 33 year old defender who has proven to be a good purchase and we've attempted to loan one of the most role model professionals on a very short loan. hardly setting a trend.
 

pistolP

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The theme I am really reading here is based on Bale. According to most of you Maicon isn't worthy of Bath F.C. while Neville might be better than Roberto Carlos, based on 3 games. That's you're sample pool and this is definitely you're outcome Neville>Maicon.

I'm not saying that we are in for Maicon, where its a choice, only that you've made some ludicrous assumptions based on performances against Bale.

Phil Neville is 34 in a week. 34! His mate is 35. Harry brought us an inconsistent 33 year old defender. He wants 30 year old Parker and 32 year old Anelka.

It's not a worrying trend. It's a disturbing one. One guy to help the training room is great. This many is bad for a team built on speed and counter.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: But i hope we can still get Beckham until the end of the season.
 

mattyspurs

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When I first heard about this, I was abit :eek:mg:!! I thought, Phil Neville, the Phil Neviile! :eek:mg:

But now I am coming around to the idea more. Even more so since speaking to one of my members of staff this morning who is a season ticket holder at Everton who sees him play pretty much week in week out, probably more than any of us see him play.

He would be gutted to loose him, in his words "he has been our best captain for quite some time"

So experience wise, you have to bear in mind that we are heading into our most crucial run in for years, with 4th - 1st place in the PL being up for grabs, a last 16 place in the CL against AC Milan coming soon and the continuation of the FA cup. It really does seem to be a no brainer.

We may loose Charlie, but we still have Hutton who in my opinion has performed a very good job since coming back into the team, and also it now looks like Kyle Walker may be fast tracked into the Squad for next season after going to Villa on loan.

This seems like a shrewd piece of business by Harry.

I think he deserves our backing on this, no?
 

pistolP

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Again, 33-35 year olds is not really the trend is it? get a grip man, we've signed one 33 year old defender who has proven to be a good purchase and we've attempted to loan one of the most role model professionals on a very short loan. hardly setting a trend.

And about to sign a 35years Beckham (one i am happy with) but please not another over 30's, we are not Pompey.
 

WhiteStripe

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And about to sign a 35years Beckham (one i am happy) but please not another over 30's, we are not Pompey.

Why not? What is wrong with adding experience to what has to be one of the youngest squads in the EPL. January is notoriously hard to buy players, especially players that are not cup tied.
 

bryanabutler

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The theme I am really reading here is based on Bale. According to most of you Maicon isn't worthy of Bath F.C. while Neville might be better than Roberto Carlos, based on 3 games. That's you're sample pool and this is definitely you're outcome Neville>Maicon.

I'm not saying that we are in for Maicon, where its a choice, only that you've made some ludicrous assumptions based on performances against Bale.

Phil Neville is 34 in a week. 34! His mate is 35. Harry brought us an inconsistent 33 year old defender. He wants 30 year old Parker and 32 year old Anelka.

It's not a worrying trend. It's a disturbing one. One guy to help the training room is great. This many is bad for a team built on speed and counter.

Agree. Harry linked with players he would have gone for at WSpam and P/mouth , come on Harry you are at SPURS now
 

THOWIG

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The theme I am really reading here is based on Bale. According to most of you Maicon isn't worthy of Bath F.C. while Neville might be better than Roberto Carlos, based on 3 games. That's you're sample pool and this is definitely you're outcome Neville>Maicon.

I'm not saying that we are in for Maicon, where its a choice, only that you've made some ludicrous assumptions based on performances against Bale.

Phil Neville is 34 in a week. 34! His mate is 35. Harry brought us an inconsistent 33 year old defender. He wants 30 year old Parker and 32 year old Anelka.

It's not a worrying trend. It's a disturbing one. One guy to help the training room is great. This many is bad for a team built on speed and counter.

No one is saying Neville is a world beater and nor does he have to be, but he is one of the most consistent performers in the Premiership and has been for a number of years. The recent examples against Bale are an obvious one, but it certainly doesn't form my only opinion on the player. The main point for me is he able to play in at least 3 positions one of which will be cover for Assou Ekotto which we don't really have apart from Bale at present.
 

pistolP

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When I first heard about this, I was abit :eek:mg:!! I thought, Phil Neville, the Phil Neviile! :eek:mg:

But now I am coming around to the idea more. Even more so since speaking to one of my members of staff this morning who is a season ticket holder at Everton who sees him play pretty much week in week out, probably more than any of us see him play.

He would be gutted to loose him, in his words "he has been our best captain for quite some time"

So experience wise, you have to bear in mind that we are heading into our most crucial run in for years, with 4th - 1st place in the PL being up for grabs, a last 16 place in the CL against AC Milan coming soon and the continuation of the FA cup. It really does seem to be a no brainer.

We may loose Charlie, but we still have Hutton who in my opinion has performed a very good job since coming back into the team, and also it now looks like Kyle Walker may be fast tracked into the Squad for next season after going to Villa on loan.

This seems like a shrewd piece of business by Harry.

I think he deserves our backing on this, no?

Phil Neviile may come in and do a good job but how many more over 30's can we accomodate in our squad,short termism policy, it smacks of where a mixeture of long term and short term will be ideal.( just an opinion and is not end of the world)
 

bryanabutler

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Walker can also play in two or three positions, would like to give him a chance, rather than buy OAP to add to our squad, wage bill
 

WhiteStripe

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Phil Neviile may come in and do a good job but how many more over 30's can we accomodate in our squad,short termism policy, it smacks of where a mixeture of long term and short term will be ideal.( just an opinion and is not end of the world)

I think you'll find we need to get our priorities straight here. Inexperience has been our downfall on many occasions in past seasons and also this year. We have possibly the most important run in that Tottenham Hotspur have ever had and we cannot afford any slip ups.

If we do not finish in the CL places, then our long term plans take a step backwards. we will be another 1 season wonder consigned to the nearly rans and come the summer, be unable to attract the players that Man City, and the other big boys will undoubtedly be able to. i happen to think a bit of short term planning, with the goal of CL qualification for the second year running will cement us in Europe's elite, and therefore we can invest in the transfer market with more power, and as you would put it long term ambition than we can at this minute in time.

Great as it has been so far, this season is a sort of limbo, with uncertainty around every corner. We need to ensure that the nearly rans turn themselves into the winners that we can be. Without a bit of short term planning we have no ability to make long term plans whatsoever.

Lets trust the judgement of the team who have gotten us to this point. i'm sure if the right long term prospect is available, they will commit resource to them, but right now we need to show a bit of faith, and take a few sets of blinkers off.
 

danielneeds

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Phil Neviile may come in and do a good job but how many more over 30's can we accomodate in our squad,short termism policy, it smacks of where a mixeture of long term and short term will be ideal.( just an opinion and is not end of the world)

We will have a squad of 25. So if it had - Cudicini, Gallas, Neville, King, and Beckham as over 30s. Is that short termist?

Look at United for instance: Van der Sar, G Neville, Ferdinand, Brown, Scholes, Giggs, Owen.

All managers want experienced players in the dressing room.
 

si_yidarmy

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these signings/loans/ trianing players, are an outstanding experience level for our current team and future team. I think this is a great move for all of them so far.

Naybet did so much for our defence in recent years. King became immense, dawson was really growing. Then woodgate came in.

To have Beckham, whatever he does, is bloody amazing! For the players morale and everything!

To have phil neville, extrememly proffessional and great full back is also a great move.
 
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