Come on, the poor recruiting was happening before Paratici and will happen after if something doesn’t change.
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JUSTINSIGNAL
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Where is your evidence that Levy just decided to go and sign those players without consultation of FP?
For example there are plenty reports that Paratici was scouting Spence last season, such as: https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2...paratici-is-a-big-fan-of-forest-star-johnson/
So why speak with absolute certainty that Levy just decided to sign those players because he felt like it?
As for your comment about poor recruiting, it happens at all clubs. Facts are we have had some really good teams under Jol, Redknapp and Poch. Was Levy responsible for scouting and signing all those players as well?
JUSTINSIGNAL
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But how do you know that?
It could just be that it takes time to refresh a squad. You can't get rid of all the players you want in a couple of windows, just like you can't sign all the players you want in such a short period of time.
Either way that is the last i'll comment as this is going off topic.
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I doubt Poch would come back. He dealt with what he had because we had a great young squad when he took over. It slowly evaporated and we didn't rebuild like he wanted. I don't think he would come without similar assurances to at least rebuild the defence. There's no chance he comes in and accepts Lloris, Dier and Davies as regular starters. Also his stock is higher now. He was at Southampton where the ceiling is lower, came to a bigger club and proved himself, then went up to a bigger club and now has other big spending clubs who win titles after him. He may even feel he's outgrown us at least until we get our shit together.
Agree. I think this is one of the fears with Mason. Would be brilliant if he came in and done a great job. Just wonder if expectancy levels from Levy are different now compared to 2014. How true it was, I don't know but there was of talk that Poch was going to get the bullet after that Villa game where Kane scored the free kick in 2014 and clear Levy has no qualms about pulling the trigger if he doesn't feel he is getting what he wants. Would genuinely feel for Mason if that happened to him early on.
Fast forward 10 years with Levy eager to maximise revenue from the stadium and top 4 being an even tougher scrap with the emergence of Newcastle, unless Levy were to give Mason some leeway for a couple of seasons, just not sure it would be the right decision at this moment in time. Risk is attached to any appointment but in the situation we are in right now, just feels a lot to throw at a young chap still learning his trade. Obvious questions such how would he react if we go on a bad run or deal with the pressure of a crucial game etc.
Lets be honest it's been more than just 'a couple of windows' now but last comment from me as well as seem to be going round in circles and off topic.
Levy is the chairman, he oversees everything. The fact that we have blown a position of strength with poor recruitment or no recruitment over 3 windows lies with him. Not a DoF, not a manager, him. He is the only constant through this entire shit show.
Just because he consulted Paratici doesn’t mean he had any say
Everything else has changed multiple times over.
Any manager with a good mindset and wanting to be successful would be asking for assurances. We have seen it time and time again where they have been let down. Do I think we need major player changes? Not particularly and I think our recruitment has been getting better. However Levy needs to appoint a DoF and stay away.
fishhhandaricecake
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How did people feel when we played Sporting this year? (considering lots of links to Almorim cropping up)
I felt like they looked like a good well organised team, their football was ok but nothing spectacular and whilst perhaps not Conte or Nuno or Jose levels or pragmatic it certainly wasn't Naglesman or Slot levels of possession and creativity and intensity.
Almorim's teams tend to be slightly more creative than a Conte 3-4-3 but they don't have a ton of possession and I wonder how much of it is down to the technical style of players they have and essentially playing with no out and out striker compared to the type of players we have.
Almorim certainly seems like a young talented coach and they looked good against Arsenal, perhaps wouldn't be the worst option and would certainly make sense from a tactical perspective given ours squad is set-up for 3-4-3 now however I'd be much more excited by the likes of:
Nagelsman
Slot
L.Enrique
Rodgers
Big Ange
Kompany
Alonso
De Zerbi
All of the above focus much more on possession and a free flowing type of style.
I worry with Almorim it would be much of the same/too close to how Conte's style of play was and the fans would get bored very quickly after the last 3 managers we've had.
So in summary I think good young coach but think we'd be better off with the other 8 names I've mentioned (apart for Rodgers defensively has a big question mark).
I felt like they looked like a good well organised team, their football was ok but nothing spectacular and whilst perhaps not Conte or Nuno or Jose levels or pragmatic it certainly wasn't Naglesman or Slot levels of possession and creativity and intensity.
Almorim's teams tend to be slightly more creative than a Conte 3-4-3 but they don't have a ton of possession and I wonder how much of it is down to the technical style of players they have and essentially playing with no out and out striker compared to the type of players we have.
Almorim certainly seems like a young talented coach and they looked good against Arsenal, perhaps wouldn't be the worst option and would certainly make sense from a tactical perspective given ours squad is set-up for 3-4-3 now however I'd be much more excited by the likes of:
Nagelsman
Slot
L.Enrique
Rodgers
Big Ange
Kompany
Alonso
De Zerbi
All of the above focus much more on possession and a free flowing type of style.
I worry with Almorim it would be much of the same/too close to how Conte's style of play was and the fans would get bored very quickly after the last 3 managers we've had.
So in summary I think good young coach but think we'd be better off with the other 8 names I've mentioned (apart for Rodgers defensively has a big question mark).
Too stripey. Better for Newcastle.
haha *Edits*
I think it's more "he's not considering us"| rather than the other way around. He has a team that just might make CL next season but are certainly in Europe. I agree that I wouldn't be to unhappy if he came to us although we don't know to much about him other than this season in the PL so was it just a flash in the pan?
HodisGawd
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Either way, he's certainly not going to be considering us publicly right now, while the season is on and his team are charging up the league. That might change when the fixtures are finished. But perhaps not.
JUSTINSIGNAL
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I don’t disagree that he is responsible for us losing ground at the top - although there is a ton of context missing which has been gone over a million times over on this forum.
The point is you do not have any evidence at all that he signs players that the DOF and/or manager doesn’t want. You literally just made up that he signed Spence/Danjuma without the DOF (who ultimately manages squad composition) influence. It could quite easily been that Paratici made the decision to sign those players as he has a limited budget and he thought it made more sense to prioritise spending more on other positions in the team.
No one knows. It just neatly fits the narrative that the reason Conte failed is because Levy decided alone to sign players for his own reasons. When there is zero evidence that was the case.
I wonder if it would be possible to clean up the poll a bit and gauge people's current thoughts on who they want? Tuchel is still an option on it with 87 votes and he's off the cards.
Could also add Alonso and Enrique considering we've had solid links to them.
Could also add Alonso and Enrique considering we've had solid links to them.
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