Next Manager Watch

[Bluto Blutarsky]

massively important that the next head coach is aligned with whatever the clubs vision is.

Don’t you find it at least mildly concerning that, as fans, we have no idea what the club’s vision is?

 

[HildoSpur]

What would you prefer? For us to do the same thing again that we did with Jose and Conte and lie to them with false promises? If Nagelsmann isn’t the right fit then we move on. Shouldn’t even be a debate about it IMO and it’s what’s lead us into this mess in the first place.

massively important that the next head coach is aligned with whatever the clubs vision is.

JN is countering this by having clauses in his contract - he is ensuring that he is contractually backed in the way he feels is required for him and the club to be successful. How anybody can take a negative from this is beyond me especially considering all the information we have about Levy going back on promises and interferring in football decisions. If I was a manager this is exactly how I would approach it - if you want me, here are my conditions - if you don't do what you agree to I walk away and you pay me what's owed.

This only makes me want and respect JN more.

 

[Yantino]

Don’t you find it at least mildly concerning that, as fans, we have no idea what the club’s vision is?

Of course. Not even convinced there is one! but hoping there is some sort of seminence of a roadmap and plan.

The success of the U17 & U18 teams over the last few weeks hopefully shows that there is potential there for a productive conveyor belt coming through at the club.

 

[Timberwolf]

Don’t you find it at least mildly concerning that, as fans, we have no idea what the club’s vision is?

We shall focus on the recruitment of a new Head Coach. We are acutely aware of the need to select someone whose values reflect those of our great Club and return to playing football with the style for which we are known – free-flowing, attacking and entertaining – whilst continuing to embrace our desire to see young players flourish from our Academy alongside experienced talent.

 

[allatsea]

What would you prefer? For us to do the same thing again that we did with Jose and Conte and lie to them with false promises? If Nagelsmann isn’t the right fit then we move on. Shouldn’t even be a debate about it IMO and it’s what’s lead us into this mess in the first place.

massively important that the next head coach is aligned with whatever the clubs vision is.

To find the Manager who fits the club you first have to tell him the truth and not mislead as we apparently did Maureen and Conte.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Don’t you find it at least mildly concerning that, as fans, we have no idea what the club’s vision is?

I would say the current football vision is one of opportunism, is this player available and is it a deal that is good on paper.

If you are referring to a particular brand or style of football that we want to play we have none and have never had one under ENIC I am not even sure they would understand the concept as it isn’t money related.

This is a club that said Spurs DNA which every Spurs fan has an idea on and then hired Nuno.

 

[Trees]

Following on from @Trix comment yesterday, that if this is not sorted very soon, I just think they might / have to give the gig to Mason. I would rather he get it than a semi washed up figure like Nuno etc

 

[Yantino]

JN is countering this by having clauses in his contract - he is ensuring that he is contractually backed in the way he feels is required for him and the club to be successful. How anybody can take a negative from this is beyond me especially considering all the information we have about Levy going back on promises and interferring in football decisions. If I was a manager this is exactly how I would approach it - if you want me, here are my conditions - if you don't do what you agree to I walk away and you pay me what's owed.

This only makes me want and respect JN more.

But this is exactly what caused the issues with Conte, isn't it? If Naglesmann has certain terms and conditions and the club are not on the same page then that should be the end of the matter.

I don't want Naglesmann if, in a few months time thing are going to turn sour again because there are disagreements and we go around the managerial merry-go-round. Again.

The head coach should fit the club, not the other way around.

 

[Albertbarich]

Following on from @Trix comment yesterday, that if this is not sorted very soon, I just think they might / have to give the gig to Mason. I would rather he get it than a semi washed up figure like Nuno etc

I get this thinking but isn't it depressing that the owners have beaten us into it.

They charge absolute premium for everything, they want to be considered a massive club and yet he we are with a completely rudderless football management team and a fanbase thinking of ways to totally lower their expectations so not to be disappointed.

I like Mason , really do but were at the stage where we should be easily attracting a Nagelsmann, De Zerbi or someone of that ilk.

It's not acceptable to have been on this twenty year journey and then try a novice because you don't wanna compete. Nagelsmann has never worked under huge budgets, has shown that he improves players too so I don't for one second think he is asking for Neymar.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Levy you absolute stiffrump!

 

[For the love of Spurs]

But this is exactly what caused the issues with Conte, isn't it? If Naglesmann has certain terms and conditions and the club are not on the same page then that should be the end of the matter.

I don't want Naglesmann if, in a few months time thing are going to turn sour again and we go around the merry-go-round again.

Then what you’re asking for is a manager who will just work with what he has got. On that basis the best candidate probably available is Pochettino but we aren’t after him and it looks like he is now Chelsea bound.

It would also make managers like Luis Enrique totally out of the question. Your really going down the can this manager work with limited resources so I guess Slot or someone of that nature might come into the picture.

 

[HildoSpur]

But this is exactly what caused the issues with Conte, isn't it? If Naglesmann has certain terms and conditions and the club are not on the same page then that should be the end of the matter.

I don't want Naglesmann if, in a few months time thing are going to turn sour again because there are disagreements and we go around the managerial merry-go-round. Again.

The head coach should fit the club, not the other way around.

I think the point here is whether you agree or not that Levy needs to change and totally butt out of football decisions if we are to be successful. If you believe this like I do then you will be applauding a prospective manager trying to impose this as a condition of joining. I believe that if Levy just continues to work in the same way he has done for many years then it won't matter who we employ as manager because we will never have any real success. I don't want our next manager to be a yes man and just be happy to be here.

 

[Timberwolf]

But this is exactly what caused the issues with Conte, isn't it? If Naglesmann has certain terms and conditions and the club are not on the same page then that should be the end of the matter.

I don't want Naglesmann if, in a few months time thing are going to turn sour again because there are disagreements and we go around the managerial merry-go-round. Again.

The head coach should fit the club, not the other way around.

Yeah I think a distinction has to be made here.

If we can afford to give Nagelsmann what he wants and Levy is being tight and unambitious, or doesn't want to appoint a certain DoF that suits Nagelsmann, then yes, that stinks, and is fully worth complaining about.

If Nagelsmann is demanding specific signings we can't afford or a level of spending that's beyond our reach, then by making promises we can't keep we're repeating the exact same mistakes we made with Conte (which, everyone who said "FFS, JUST GET CONTE IN LEVY" now bitches about in retrospect). If this is the case I'd prefer we looked elsewhere.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

I'm leaning towards De Zerbi.

The way they played last night with an 18 year old on all set pieces was seriously impressive.

 

[Joely]

It doesn't matter who the manager is, if he starts the season without a new top class goalkeeper and 2 top class experienced centre backs anyone will struggle. That's at least 100m of investment there, maybe even 200.

If we see the likes of Tanganga, Sanchez and Dier around and Davies in the first 11 we've fucked up.

If I was being interviewed I'd want it contractually confirmed that we were getting these players.

If we don't sign Lenglet and Romero gets an injury we could see a three at the back of Dier, Sanchez and Davies.

Stuff of nightmares.

Conte, José and Poch... none of them are bad managers, they all have their issues but ANY manager would struggle with our defence. If they are not asking for guarantees in signings then the we shouldn't be appointing them.

Spot on. It's almost with every managerial change, Levy hopes to press some kind of reset button in his mind and expects the new manager to get more out of some of the junk in our squad whilst hoping the fans forget just how bad some of our players actually are under the renewed optimisation of having a new manager/season to look forward with a the usual 'working hard' pictures/videos and our poor players throwing in 7/8 out of 10 performances in preseason against teams who are 2-3 weeks behind us in fitness.

Think any manager with half a reputation is doing the right thing by wanting assurances although in all honesty Levy's assurances are worthless.

 

[Timberwolf]

I'm leaning towards De Zerbi.

The way they played last night with an 18 year old on all set pieces was seriously impressive.

I really don't think he's a flash in the pan - I think he's the real deal.

Hell, even Pep is nicking tactical ideas from him atm.

We won't go for him sadly cos Brighton will finish above us and Levy won't want to pay the massive buyout anyway, but I think he'll be doing big things at a top club within a few years.

 

[Trix]

But this is exactly what caused the issues with Conte, isn't it? If Naglesmann has certain terms and conditions and the club are not on the same page then that should be the end of the matter.

I don't want Naglesmann if, in a few months time thing are going to turn sour again because there are disagreements and we go around the managerial merry-go-round. Again.

The head coach should fit the club, not the other way around.

Great, who is it exactly that fits how the club operates?

 

[Rob]

Great, who is it exactly that fits how the club operates?

'Arry

It's what we deserve

 

[Timberwolf]

Great, who is it exactly that fits how the club operates?

I don't think anyone truly fits Levy, but sadly while the bald one is in charge, having someone more like Poch who is willing to adapt to his bullshit is more sustainable than a manager with massive expectations who won't take any crap and is liable to storm out.

There's surely a middle ground between a cheap, "puppet" type manager like Mason and human bulldozers like Conte and Jose that won't put up with his shit at all.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Spot on. It's almost with every managerial change, Levy hopes to press some kind of reset button in his mind and expects the new manager to get more out of some of the junk in our squad whilst hoping the fans forget just how bad some of our players actually are under the renewed optimisation of having a new manager/season to look forward with a the usual 'working hard' pictures/videos and our poor players throwing in 7/8 out of 10 performances in preseason against teams who are 2-3 weeks behind us in fitness.

Think any manager with half a reputation is doing the right thing by wanting assurances although in all honesty Levy's assurances are worthless.

Really? did you see how many players we signed for Conte. Plus allowing him to discard Gil, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Regi. If Levy really expected a coach just to make it work with the players we had then Conte was not the right coach for that.

I don't know if this JN news is true but the facts are with the size of the squad (players coming back from loans etc..) it's simply unrealistic to expect to yet again build a whole new team. Especially as the way the market is most prem teams are struggling to sell players.

Whoever we bring in has to be the right fit for the current squad. Yes, we need to strengthen in key positions - GK, CB, AM/WF - but I believe that would be happening regardless of who we appoint.