Jose Mourinho

[Nerine]

I am all for this appointment.

Watching the videos, reading the articles etc has only helped confirm my stance.

I think it's a MASSIVE coup.

I think it's a huge statement from Levy, and he SHOULD be applauded for everything of late.

What we probably forget sometimes is that DL has a road map and vision that reaches far further forward than we could imagine. People claiming that Poch wasn't backed in the summer etc is quite a shortsighted view when you consider we've had information that suggests he has been a bit of a prima-donna/awkward for the last 12 months.

I think Levy backed him, but cautiously. We made three very good signings in the summer (omitting Clarke), but clearly something has been amiss somewhere. Levy would know this. He'd also know that if he signed nobody, it'd look like he hung Poch out to dry with no backing.

I really wouldn't surprise me if Levy has had this ace lined up in his sleeve for a long time, but had to wait for the perfect opportunity to pull it off. The speed of the appointment, the prep Jose has done on the squad already, the dossiers etc. This isn't something that's been dreamt up in the last fortnight. This has to have been rumbling on in the background for some time.

Its no secret that Levy has courted Jose for a while, and it may be that he was stuck between a rock and a hard place during the summer with incoming players. Get Poch's targets knowing that you're becoming increasingly frustrated with him, (DL said in the club's statement that it has been results since February that have ultimately led the decision) or, don't and LOOK like the bad guy (yet again in the eyes of some fans that are less endowed with intelligence) when you don't back the manager that has overseen a lot of on-the-pitch improvement.

The quite random move for Bruno Fernandes MAY be telling that perhaps this might have been a Jose target, not a Poch one.

I am very excited about it all. It reeks of a game plan, Levy's awareness and business acumen, and our Dear Leader has pulled no punches here at all. This shows huge balls in my opinion, and I really hope it transpires to be a very successful appointment.

And to reiterate, clearly DL hasn't been best pleased with Poch, but seeing as our chairman is quite elusive, we only get to see spin, narrative, the manager's perspective and transfer dealings from the outside.

There are two sides to every story, and I'd imagine DL's would be far more interesting to listen to than Poch's...


I am looking forward to the meaner, more ruthless Tottenham. The tactically astute Tottenham. The Tottenham that has a proper winner at the helm. It's what we need. And clearly DL knows this. After all he is a fan (probably first and foremost.) He loves this club and has done a fantastic job of steering it so far. Anyone that says otherwise is just being contrary.

 

[TOMSPURS]

It's not that long ago that we were finishing a season with Tim Sherwood as manager, about to move into a new training facility, still dreaming about the new stadium & hoping a young Kane might prove to be a decent striker!

We now have a world class stadium, world class training facilities, a hugely talented squad with a world class striker. Our revenue streams are now pushing turnover up towards the major players in Europe, which will enable us to continue to increase our wage structure.

This club has taken huge strides forward in a very short period. Everything is almost in place now for Spurs to really push for major honours on a regular basis. I still think the board are slightly playing catch-up regarding how the club is run behind the scenes & how major clubs operate regarding transfers etc.. Hopefully Levy now see's this & rumours of Lille Sporting Directors arrival is confirmed.

Personally I think Jose is the perfect manager for us, appointed at the perfect time. He knows how major clubs operate & what it takes to manage big expectations, while also bringing success. He will instantly command the players respect. As fans, as a club & as players, we need to shake off our inferiority complex. We need to start believing that we are now one of Europe's top clubs & act accordingly. Jose will drive that & I can't wait for the ride. Glory, glory Tottenham Hotspur.

 

[Graysonti]

Having had more time to digest this. I just don't see how Jose is compatible with us(Levy). I honestly think he'll be wanting to spend much bigger than we could ever afford on big reputations and big wages. We could spend 150 million and him still complain. And it will eventually fall apart because of that.

ITK is that Joe Lewis always wanted him and that's why he's here, Levy doing what he's told, which adds up. But that's pretty shit for us, means the differences in transfer budget expectations won't of been thought through. I know everyone assumes these discussions will of been had, and this looked at logically. But imagine Joe will of just said go get him. And Levy will of said to Jose what he needs to make it happen. Like he always does... And it's not like Jose is going to of changed, if he didn't change for Man United he's not going to change for us is he. Thinking otherwise seems wishful at best and naive at worst.

In the short term, it'll work. But I don't see him lasting much beyond summer 2021. Maybe not even Christmas next year. And the downward spiral will come at some point. So to make this justifiable, he needs to win either the FA cup or Champions League this season, before he reverts to type. Anything else and it'll all end up pretty pointless. Christ, the Champions League money we'd get for top 4 we've just blown on his insane contract and sacking Poch.

So yeah, Jose, you need to win this year. Champions League, absolutely amazing. FA Cup, good. Anything else and this whole experiment will end up being a failure IMO. Good luck.

edit : I appreciate this is going to be an unpopular view. Just trying to look at things rationally, removing emotion and looking at the facts of what's happened in the past. Gotta get the predictions in early, and I'd be hugely happy to be proved wrong.

ok - we got your point yesterday - multiple times

 

[Graysonti]

Excited !

Regardless - Poch time was done.

This was the most ambitious recruitment Levy could make so I’m pleased we are trying to move to the next level.

What more can Levy do than give a healthy budget and get one of the most successful managers of all time in and pay him one of the biggest salaries in world football. Whatever happens in the future, DL has done his bit to my mind - over to Jose.

People talk about ‘lack of transfers these past two windows‘ but its a difficult one. It could have been Poch being stubborn and only wanting his 1st choice or Levy strung by the ongoing building works and lack of clarity on the final bill. Maybe a mixture of the two - don’t forget funders would require certain covenant conditions.

I actually think we are now progressing steadily (wages, transfer budget) with our new economic reality. Will we do a City? No but I think Levy is ambitious. The easiest (and cheapest) thing was to write the season off and ride with Poch.

I’m impressed Mr Levy !

COYS

 

['O Zio]

I'm in two minds. Part of me is worried that him and Levy will fall out very quickly and we all know how much of a prick Mourinho can be when he's not happy. I guess time will tell whether he's changed.

Personally I feel Poch was hard done because he'd been telling Levy for 2 years that we need to rebuild a fresh squad but Levy wouldn't listen and now things have turned out just like Poch feared and he's the one paying the price for it. However, what's done is done so now that he is gone I'm excited to see whether Mourinho can bring some of that winning mentality into the club and take us to the next level. I think the fact that he's such a "marquee signing" of sorts might convince a couple of the wantaways that were moving in the right direction and it also might help us get a few big deals over the line in the summer.

All in all, im not his biggest fan but I do understand why we've hired him and I'll get fully behind him while he's here. I just hope he stays happy for long enough to be successful and has learned from his past mistakes. The trouble with Jose is the highs are very high but the lows are horrific so fingers crossed we get the special one not the "burn everything to the ground out of spite" one

 

[Japhet]

Loved Poch but it became apparent that he didn't really love us much, so that was a bitter pill to swallow.
I'm not sure I could ever warm to Mourinho, but then again I only know his bi-polar media character, the Widow Twanky of football.
I'm intrigued to know what the 'new style ' of football is he's been working on. If it's the same one he announced when he went to MU he can keep it. I hope to God it's not some of the turgid dross he's served up over the years.
I think it's a very brave move by Levy which could succeed or fail spectacularly. I don't really want to think about the fallout if it fails.
I think he'll be able to attract some top players to the club, albeit we only need a few, and I hope he gets who he wants. The caveat to this is that he's made some utterly shocking signings in the past that totally dwarf N'Jie and Nkoudou - and think about the fuss we've made about them.
I'm looking forward to any signings being integrated quickly instead of virtually forgetting we've signed them by the time they get a debut.
I'm looking forward to some proactive game management which has been sorely lacking.

Finally - I'll be mighty relieved if we can get Luis Campos in. I think he'll keep things steady and focussed amongst all the melodrama that always surrounds Mourinho.

 

[Shadydan]

ok - we got your point yesterday - multiple times

He's trying his best to convince himself, give it time

 

[Windwarden]

The power of Jose Mourinho and how he blew Tottenham away

The Special One is back after 11 months away promising a new philosophy but is he the ‘breath of fresh air’ Daniel Levy needs him to be or is this another chapter of the same old story?

www.independent.co.uk

Mourinho told Levy and the Spurs hierarchy that he has spent his 11 months out of management developing a new football strategy and philosophy. He also stressed to them his Manchester United record proves he will promote youth – if he deems them to be good enough. Mourinho meanwhile laid out plans for recruitment, but insisted he sees Spurs as already having one of the best squads in the league.


This was especially persuasive for Levy. He similarly thinks his club have the third best squad in the league, which was one other reason he grew tired of Mauricio Pochettino’s complaints and appeals for a rebuild.

They were similarly blown away when they met him almost exactly four years ago, when Louis van Gaal was still in a job. Mourinho produced a hugely persuasive dossier that – yes – insisted he had a new philosophy of football after the turmoil of Chelsea, and offered a forensic but optimistic assessment of the then United squad. He insisted he was a huge fan of Marcus Rashford.

They were proven to be mere words. His time at United went largely as expected, for a manager then seen as past his peak. There were flashes of old glory through some new trophies, but ultimately dissatisfaction and under-performance amid a lot of rancour.
So how will this go?

perhaps the bigger question is really this: if you are implementing an idealised model of a club and what your best practice is – as has been so vaunted about Spurs – how do you go from having managers like Brendan Rodgers and Julian Nagelsmann as first choices to one like Mourinho? They really couldn’t be more different

They say no, and so your second choice becomes your first. Smh. These people really need to research how lists work.

Also, he’s hardly going to tell them he spent his 11 months out of football watching babestation and eating wotsits

incidentally, the independent‘s review of the war of the worlds series is the only honest, balanced and intelligent television review I’ve read in about ten years.

 

[GutBucket]

Same as last year and the year before and the year before, meh. I don't like his style of football and his willingness to get rid of young players to sign old ones, that's how he lost Salah, De Bruyne etc. I prefer coaches like Klopp who play pressing and up-tempo football and won't make their young FBs cry and lose confidence. Winning trophies after spending 500m on players who are on 200k+ p/w wages and doing it with resources that we have is a lot different and he never had to deal with someone like Levy before. He knows how to win trophies but it's not like Ancelotti and Allegri don't, at least Mourinho has more potential so maybe he will do ok with us. Feels like he will either do great or be really shit, to dare is to do. I will support him anyway as long as he is our coach, plus it's nice to have a head coach who hates Arsenal and never lost to them.

 

[wrd]

I'm excited but I'm not trophies here we come baby, I'm looking forward to seeing what Jose can do with this team, I'm intrigued by what a humbled refreshed Jose can bring to the table but how we play week in week out is more important to me than trophies. I feel like too many people would happily skip the games check the result and still gloat to their mates in this day and age and that trophies are used as another opportunity for gloating without getting behind the team. I'm not saying trophies aren't important and that it isn't awesome to see your team win a trophy of course it is but for me what I'll judge Jose on is how we set up and if he can combine his tactical acumen with spurs style attacking prowess then I'd be very happy. If he can combine that with making us winners that'd be fantastic.

I was fond of his style at Madrid and think those who just call him a defensive manager are being a little lazy but admittedly the United/Recent Chelsea style are not for me.

I'm excited to see some of my favourite players reinvigorated especially Dele, have to say seeing how he handled Tanganga in training was fantastic to see. I'm also excited by the infrastructure that Jose is trying to bring with him. I hope Levy meets Jose halfway and backs him to fulfil the potential of his management and our squad.

 

[WiganSpur]

I’ve had time to think about it and on the coaching side, he’s quite simply one of the finest around. If you want evidence of that then watch the video where he talks about beating Pep’s Barca with Inter in 2010.

But the worst of him has always been the unnecessary baggage he brings with him. Undoubtedly his worst moment being the Eva Carneiro incident.

How well this will work depends on how focused he is on the training ground nitty gritty, just doing what he is paid to do, making us a coached unit without all the stupid abrasive and argumentative bollocks.

I have reservations about the latter but I’m still cautiously optimistic that he can get more out of these players and turn them into winners.

 

[adamsky]

Mixed feelings too. I wanted to back Poch and give him some time, but have to admit I wasn’t particularly looking forward to going to games as the whole experience hasn’t been enjoyable for a while. Hopefully Mourinho will bring the excitement back, at least in the short term

 

[Phomesy]

Think Jose was really the only choice Levy could make under these circumstances - the dressing room needs someone who demands immediate respect and the knowledge that the manager is more important and more credentialed than any of them. Mourinho ticks all those boxes.

Simple as that really.

 

[wrd]

Having had more time to digest this. I just don't see how Jose is compatible with us(Levy). I honestly think he'll be wanting to spend much bigger than we could ever afford on big reputations and big wages. We could spend 150 million and him still complain. And it will eventually fall apart because of that.

ITK is that Joe Lewis always wanted him and that's why he's here, Levy doing what he's told, which adds up. But that's pretty shit for us, means the differences in transfer budget expectations won't of been thought through. I know everyone assumes these discussions will of been had, and this looked at logically. But imagine Joe will of just said go get him. And Levy will of said to Jose what he needs to make it happen. Like he always does... And it's not like Jose is going to of changed, if he didn't change for Man United he's not going to change for us is he. Thinking otherwise seems wishful at best and naive at worst.

In the short term, it'll work. But I don't see him lasting much beyond summer 2021. Maybe not even Christmas next year. And the downward spiral will come at some point. So to make this justifiable, he needs to win either the FA cup or Champions League this season, before he reverts to type. Anything else and it'll all end up pretty pointless. Christ, the Champions League money we'd get for top 4 we've just blown on his insane contract and sacking Poch.

So yeah, Jose, you need to win this year. Champions League, absolutely amazing. FA Cup, good. Anything else and this whole experiment will end up being a failure IMO. Good luck.

edit : I appreciate this is going to be an unpopular view. Just trying to look at things rationally, removing emotion and looking at the facts of what's happened in the past. Gotta get the predictions in early, and I'd be hugely happy to be proved wrong.

I think you're being a bit unfair to Jose, I agree Levy has taken a huge gamble on getting rid of Poch but it's unfair to judge Jose on this year. Also you're saying if he didn't change for United he won't change for us, the difference is that he was promised certain things by United and they didn't deliver. Now I'm sure he was given assurances that if we don't deliver he will kick a fuss up about, the same as Poch did but I imagine he fully appreciates what he's getting into, I think you're really making him sound simplistic if you think he's walking in here expecting the budgets of Madrid/United. What Jose has here at Spurs is an opportunity to prove he is the best manager in the world and turn a club of our stature into giants which is more impressive than what Pep did at City/Bayern for example.

 

[Gb160]

Fucking buzzing, hope he pokes that weird prick emery in the eye.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Nando's maybe

Nando’s is actually South African, not Portuguese...

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Well, he's here now and I suppose the consolation is that he won't be here for long, not unless he is successful in which case we may feel a bit happier about him...

I'm straw clutching here a bit, but something had to happen and it did.

So having got over the initial shock I'm now going to be positive until there's demonstrable rather than speculative reason not to be.

 

[Windwarden]

I wasn't really on-board yesterday, but feeling a bit better about it now. If the players can apply some of the technical stuff they learned from Poch, along with Jose's teachings and instilling of a winning mentality - we could do well.

Could also be a car crash, obvs.

I’ve chosen to look at it like a shot to nothing in snooker. We’ll have tried it and if it doesn’t come off, not many better caretaker managers. At least it’s a bit of a laugh either way, which is the good thing about supporting spurs, we have grand ambitions and provide entertainment even when we’re crap

 

[richard_gleeson]

I hope he gets back to how he was at Inter. Those guys would run through brick walls for him. He had a special relationship with the players, Materazzi was like a son to him.

 

[Goofster]

I'm excited by the fact that we have chosen an outspoken winner, a ready made manager who's known for picking up ready made stars and turn them into winning machines. We've spent 5 years with project manager Pochettino now and it's been an amazing ride but in the end we have nothing to show for it and all we were looking at was another rebuild and potentially another 5 years of coming close but not going all the way. That said there obviously is no guarantee that Mourinho 100% will deliver a trophy but we've taken our pile and pushed it all in. I suspect he will be given whatever funds he need in the summer to be able to deliver. Wouldn' be surprised to see short term contract extensions from Eriksen, Alderweireld and Vertonghen as I suspect the plan is to go all in for a trophy next season to have something other than coming close to show from this amazing group of players. Obviously I have no clue like the rest of us but that's just the feeling I get after having it all sink in.