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Manager who gambled on football is secretly spared punishment by FA

carmeldevil

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A football manager who gambled nearly £1million, including bets on his own sport, has secretly been let off by the Football Association at the same time that Brentford striker Ivan Toney is serving an eight-month suspension.

Manager A — his real name cannot be used for legal reasons — had eight betting accounts and admitted being a gambling addict in evidence presented to a court case last year in which two former footballers were accused of blackmailing him.

Although the majority of those bets were placed on horse racing, the court was told he had also contravened FA rules by gambling on his own sport.

However, the FA has decided not to take any action, other than to issue a warning, in a judgment that the English game’s governing body has deliberately kept away from the media, almost certainly to avoid any challenging questions about its disciplinary processes.

Manager A’s identity cannot be reported because of a court order that was made when the two ex-players, Alan Rogers and Steven Jennings, were due to go on trial last year.

Rogers, formerly of clubs including Nottingham Forest and Leicester City, was charged with one count of blackmail and another of perverting the course of justice.

Jennings, a former Everton trainee who spent most of his well-travelled career at Tranmere Rovers, had faced the same charges and another alleged offence of blackmail.

The two defendants had pleaded not guilty to the charges and the case was dropped after Manager A made it clear through a series of legal submissions that he had changed his mind and did not want to go through with the trial.

According to evidence heard in court, the manager gambled £879,000 ($1million) across two years, running up losses of £270,000, and had “excluded himself from mainstream gamblers” in an attempt to change his lifestyle.

One of his letters to the court, explaining why he wanted to abandon the trial, left a judge saying he had “concern about his welfare”.

However, the FA has not stipulated whether Manager A’s state of mind played a part in the process that has ended with the governing body deciding against issuing the disciplinary charges that would ordinarily be expected.

The court case collapsed a year ago this week and the FA’s disciplinary unit had been given access to the police evidence, including phone records, bank accounts and bookmakers’ data.

The manager laid the bets, ranging from £5 to £400, at one of his previous clubs and gambled on what was described in court as a “handful” of football matches. It was not mentioned whether or not they involved his own club.

What the FA has not explained is why Manager A has been given, in effect, a free pass in comparison to other similar cases in which players have been fined or banned as a matter of routine. His case would ordinarily be seen as having aggravating circumstances because of him being a manager and, as such, having extra responsibilities to uphold the rules.

There have also been various examples of footballers being punished for a small number of breaches — each bet counts as a breach — and sometimes even a single bet.

To cite one example, Jack Colback was charged with misconduct by the FA for making one bet, and one only, during his time as a Newcastle United player. Colback, who had staked a losing £100 sum on a Champions League tie between Bayern Munich and Juventus, was fined £25,000.

In another case that the FA publicised, Kyle Lafferty was fined £23,000 in his days as a Norwich City player for placing a single bet on two Spanish games.

As Toney has discovered, anyone who makes a high number of bets is liable to a long ban.

In the case of the England international, there were 232 breaches over a four-year period that involved Brentford as well as previous clubs Peterborough United and Newcastle United and his loan spells at S****horpe United and Wigan Athletic.

On 13 occasions, Toney bet on his own team to lose.

Manager A is still working in the top four professional divisions in the English game but has left the club where his gambling led to an FA investigation. His current team were made aware of the court case and the possibility that, as a result of the evidence, their employee would face disciplinary charges.

However, the case was complicated for the FA, bearing in mind Manager A has been granted anonymity via the legal system.

To ban a manager in those circumstances would immediately have risked identifying him, even inadvertently, as the same person who was involved in a court case that had attracted publicity last year.

At least one person with inside knowledge of the FA processes had doubts that the organisation would be willing to grapple with the issue and either charge or punish him.

The Athletic has asked the FA for updates at regular interludes over the past year and found it difficult to get answers before discovering that a decision had, in fact, been taken a few months ago.

Since then, the FA has refused to discuss the matter, even on an anonymised basis, and will not take questions to provide further context about what warrants disciplinary action, and what does not, at a time when many people within the sport will want to know why Manager A has been treated differently to others.

The FA’s messaging has always been of a zero-tolerance policy and there are guidelines on its website stating: “Breaching the FA betting rules, or using inside information, is serious stuff. You are likely to get caught and receive an FA charge.”

Many people have questioned whether the football authorities are operating with jumbled priorities at a time when sponsorship deals with bookmakers are common throughout the sport.

Harry Toffolo, the Nottingham Forest defender, became the latest player to fall foul of the FA’s Rule E8 this week when he was given a suspended five-month ban for betting 375 times at the start of his career.

Toffolo’s betting related to a period from 2014 to 2017 while he was employed by Norwich City and aged 18 to 21, during which time he went out on loan at several lower-division clubs. The FA says its full written reasons will be disclosed soon.

No more details, however, will be presented in the case of the manager at the centre of a hushed-up FA investigation that opens the governing body up to allegations of treating Manager A with a degree of leniency that has not been shown to others.

Rogers, meanwhile, is understood to be taking legal action against Manager A to retrieve the legal costs he incurred while he was preparing for the trial, in which he vehemently denied any wrongdoing.

“I’ve never met this fella, never spoken to him, never been in his company, never been in contact, and somehow I’ve been dragged into his gambling addiction,” he told The Athletic last year.
 

Col_M

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interesting read that. I understand the need for anonymity BUT at the same time, if he broke the rules, then he must face the same level of scrutiny and punishment
 

Marty

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We've just had Toney and then Toffolo banned for multiple breaches, there's no reason why a manager shouldn't be receiving the same scrutiny. Well done The Athletic to unearth this.
 

beats1

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We've just had Toney and then Toffolo banned for multiple breaches, there's no reason why a manager shouldn't be receiving the same scrutiny. Well done The Athletic to unearth this.
I feel like the difference is that the manager may have done it once or twice whereas Toffolo did regularly over a period of a year or two. Whilst Toney did over several years including betting on his team and 15 times on himself to score before it was announced he was part of the squad(now this means his odds may have been higher but worth noting he also had 6 other bets on himself to score and he didn't feature in those matches)
 

Marty

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I feel like the difference is that the manager may have done it once or twice whereas Toffolo did regularly over a period of a year or two. Whilst Toney did over several years including betting on his team and 15 times on himself to score before it was announced he was part of the squad(now this means his odds may have been higher but worth noting he also had 6 other bets on himself to score and he didn't feature in those matches)
If the manager gambled nearly £1m, as the article states, then it's very unlikely to have been "once or twice".

The manager laid the bets, ranging from £5 to £400, at one of his previous clubs and gambled on what was described in court as a “handful” of football matches. It was not mentioned whether or not they involved his own club.

Now I suspect the reason Toney got a harsher sentence than Toffolo is because of the bets he placed on his own club and/or himself to score. But for the manager to get away with a warning feels wrong.
 

easley91

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If the manager gambled nearly £1m, as the article states, then it's very unlikely to have been "once or twice".



Now I suspect the reason Toney got a harsher sentence than Toffolo is because of the bets he placed on his own club and/or himself to score. But for the manager to get away with a warning feels wrong.
Also says he had EIGHT betting accounts and admitted to being an addict. So definitely was more than just once or twice. Mad how he gets away with it, while Toney and Toffolo don't. Should be the same for all three.
 

Tucker

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We've just had Toney and then Toffolo banned for multiple breaches, there's no reason why a manager shouldn't be receiving the same scrutiny. Well done The Athletic to unearth this.
The FA made a right pigs ear of Toney too letting him play almost the whole season.
 

Col_M

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If the manager gambled nearly £1m, as the article states, then it's very unlikely to have been "once or twice".



Now I suspect the reason Toney got a harsher sentence than Toffolo is because of the bets he placed on his own club and/or himself to score. But for the manager to get away with a warning feels wrong.
Toney also denied it all several times. Whereas Tof’ 1) admitted it and 2)did it when he was 18-21 (7+ years ago) so no longer actively at it.
 

beats1

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If the manager gambled nearly £1m, as the article states, then it's very unlikely to have been "once or twice".



Now I suspect the reason Toney got a harsher sentence than Toffolo is because of the bets he placed on his own club and/or himself to score. But for the manager to get away with a warning feels wrong.
Also says he had EIGHT betting accounts and admitted to being an addict. So definitely was more than just once or twice. Mad how he gets away with it, while Toney and Toffolo don't. Should be the same for all three.
I read it as £1m spent on 8 betting accounts mainly on horse racing with a few(states 'handful' ranging from £5 to £400) of bets on football matches

So his main addiction is horse racing
 

allatsea

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I read it as £1m spent on 8 betting accounts mainly on horse racing with a few(states 'handful' ranging from £5 to £400) of bets on football matches

So his main addiction is horse racing
I assume it is OK for people involved in professional football to bet on Horse Racing ?
 

Timbo Tottenham

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I’ve read a bit into this and I’ve been trying to work out the mitigating circumstances. Maybe he wasn’t in work during the “handful” of footballing bets?
The judge in the blackmail case also said that they had concerns for the manager’s welfare.
And if you do a bit of digging, you can work out that the two ex players were at the same club at the same time, one as a player and one on the staff, so it wouldn’t be hard to work out who the manager was. I’ve narrowed it down to 4, but didn’t go any further.

edit: and none of them is a household name nor has been a premier league manager
 
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Tucker

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The mitigating circumstances are that the FA bottled the messy legal ramifications of giving a ban to someone who had obtained anonymity through the courts. I don’t think there’s anything more to it than that.
 

allatsea

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That's not the question though and can you ban someone from betting on another sport
If a football person is addicted to betting he/she can bet of the Horses and not risk trouble with the FA by betting on football is my point.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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I assume it is OK for people involved in professional football to bet on Horse Racing ?

I think there’s an issue about whether their gambling is a recreation or an addiction.

But that’s a broad concern, not necessarily a simple matter of rules and regs.
 
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