Jose Mourinho

[Johnny J]

Wasn’t intending to patronise, apologies, just frustrated over the bed wetting in reaction to yesterday. I’m as upset as anyone else but the site today has been a big bag of aids. Mourinho’s is toxic, the chairman is a money grabbing whelp, every player is shit, the stadium was a waste of money. But Sunday morning when we were hyped up by the documentary and happy with our transfers barring the lack of striker so far, not a peep. I hate the hypocrisy and I hate the fickleness. It was one match. A shit match, but still just one match, and this place looks like the last days of Sodom.

It's all good but you've been here a long time, you know what fans are like, it's a rollercoaster. If you're expecting rational thinking a football forum isn't the best place to look. You're one of the few people on here who always tries to be positive (I'm definitely not one lol) and I'm sure people appreciate that.

 

[dtxspurs]

This been discussed?

 

[Johnny J]

This been discussed?

Who said that, Dele?

 

[Bubble44]

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Who said that, Dele?

Yeap

 

[kannanmothalali]

This been discussed?

Ahh the Tony Pullis special.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Wasn’t intending to patronise, apologies, just frustrated over the bed wetting in reaction to yesterday. I’m as upset as anyone else but the site today has been a big bag of aids. Mourinho’s is toxic, the chairman is a money grabbing whelp, every player is shit, the stadium was a waste of money. But Sunday morning when we were hyped up by the documentary and happy with our transfers barring the lack of striker so far, not a peep. I hate the hypocrisy and I hate the fickleness. It was one match. A shit match, but still just one match, and this place looks like the last days of Sodom.

Sometimes it's easier to blow the cobwebs out. I spoke with my dad earlier and he said to me 'in the grander scheme of things it doesn't matter' and then he said 'nothing stays the same forever' ...

I wanted to explode tell him how cliche that he sounded then I remembered how old he is, stupid old sod. He's probably right though.

This'll settle down, it's probably come at the same time in the window that it usually does, just the time and date is different due to what's proceeded it.

Let's face it, plenty of folk who have been on here since the year dot have experienced the same out pourings of grief toward the board/coach/manager/players etc ...

Fingers crossed some of what is needed happens both on and off the pitch over the next three weeks.

 

[Alex4487]

I stand by what i said it is a laughing stock how we are where we are because on a penny pinching chairman who saw an opportunity to sack the best manager we had in years and hire someone for his star name alone. Its not only 1 game its been far longer and mourinho has had this effect for how long now. His way doesnt fit certain clubs and one of them is ours

 

[Johnny J]

I stand by what i said it is a laughing stock how we are where we are because on a penny pinching chairman who saw an opportunity to sack the best manager we had in years and hire someone for his star name alone. Its not only 1 game its been far longer and mourinho has had this effect for how long now. His way doesnt fit certain clubs and one of them is ours

If there's one thing we know for certain it's that Levy didn't want to sack Poch. They had a great relationship and he felt he had no other choice.

 

[Alex4487]

If there's one thing we know for certain it's that Levy didn't want to sack Poch. They had a great relationship and he felt he had no other choice.

Clearly i think it was a mistake and even so why hire a manager that plays the polar opposite of how the team functions best he could easily of get someone with a similiar style to poch or be more updated on tactics and style as i get the feeling mourinho can repeat things until hes blue in the face but the players aint taking it on board its so clear to see.

 

[SheffieldAndy]

This been discussed?

He’s criticising the players there.

 

[PLTuck]

Good grief.

 

[Robbiepope]

I don’t blame mourinho for that performance. That line up wasn’t stupid. The tactics weren’t even wrong. That team managed to execute the plan barely ever. First 3 mins I saw Allan get the ball and was tackled by team pressing. Whole team pressing. I saw that once! The players were pathetic. That was pathetic. We’ve seen the boring mourinho games but in those we looked organised. That game wasn’t even that.

Ultimately, whose responsibility is it if the players aren’t motivated or aren’t conditioned ? Also, the game management / subs by Mourinho was terrible. His actually lucky that there are no fans at the moment as it would get poisonous quickly if this continues - which i can’t see why it won’t.

 

[richard_gleeson]

I stand by what i said it is a laughing stock how we are where we are because on a penny pinching chairman who saw an opportunity to sack the best manager we had in years and hire someone for his star name alone. Its not only 1 game its been far longer and mourinho has had this effect for how long now. His way doesnt fit certain clubs and one of them is ours

He maybe doesn't fit our club because we don't have a John Terry, Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Sami Khedera, Lucio, Zanetti, Stankovic...

He's got a team of nice boys and celebrities.

 

[danielneeds]

He maybe doesn't fit our club because we don't have a John Terry, Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Sami Khedera, Lucio, Zanetti, Stankovic...

He's got a team of nice boys and celebrities.

Just like the nice boys and celebrities, Pogba, Martial, Shaw, Rashford, who are performing levels above he could get from them even with an average manager like Ole.

 

[daveduvet]

Sometimes it's easier to blow the cobwebs out. I spoke with my dad earlier and he said to me 'in the grander scheme of things it doesn't matter' and then he said 'nothing stays the same forever' ...

I wanted to explode tell him how cliche that he sounded then I remembered how old he is, stupid old sod. He's probably right though.

This'll settle down, it's probably come at the same time in the window that it usually does, just the time and date is different due to what's proceeded it.

Let's face it, plenty of folk who have been on here since the year dot have experienced the same out pourings of grief toward the board/coach/manager/players etc ...

Fingers crossed some of what is needed happens both on and off the pitch over the next three weeks.

I’m in your dads camp. Tbh, without the fans in the stadium I’m finding it all - still - a bit unusual

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Just like the nice boys and celebrities, Pogba, Martial, Shaw, Rashford, who are performing levels above he could get from them even with an average manager like Ole.

The fact that Solskjær isn't an established serial winning manager from the continent doesn't mean he is average. I mean this is entirely besides the point of this thread, but other PL fans are completely underestimating him just because he is a bit too kind, a bitt too calm and a bit too smiley.

 

[Alex4487]

He maybe doesn't fit our club because we don't have a John Terry, Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Sami Khedera, Lucio, Zanetti, Stankovic...

He's got a team of nice boys and celebrities.

mourinho as i said aint got a team full of scumbags thats why and it aint going to change anytime soon he needs to play to there strengths as others have pointed out look at utd now under a crock of shit manager playing much better football when they are allowed to play on the front foot. great teams dont change tactics every game to suit a team,. they have there style and play to it they may make tweaks to man mark or position themselves differently vs better players but keep the style the same. tell me what style has mourinho got us playing. i think its give it to toby to hit a 50 yarder to the front three thats all i see

 

[Johnny J]

The fact that Solskjær isn't an established serial winning manager from the continent doesn't mean he is average. I mean this is entirely besides the point, but other PL fans are completely underestimating him just because he is a bit too kind, a bitt to calm and a bit too smiley.

It's interesting because without any insider info, the only rational conclusion is that Solskjaer is doing a good job and getting his players to perform well.

Conversely, Mourinho isn't getting his players to perform well. I can take losing, but I can't take a season of this sort of clueless football unless we win the league or something equally unlikely.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

Jose Mourinho facing dressing room backlash after Tottenham claims

Tottenham were beaten by a single goal on the opening day of the season as visitors Everton escaped with all three points, leading Mourinho to criticise his players

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[sausage]

Don't know where else to put this, but sure as hell don't want to spam the ITK thread, so...

To go last season with 1 striker, 1 right back, 1 left back, no defensive midfielder and half a season with no creative no. 10 was unforgivable after reaching a CL final and could have pushed on.

Very little of that is accurate - we didn't go a season with 1 LB and 1 RB; we started with 2 (Rose/Davies and Aurier/KWP) not including the players MP thought were also capable of that area (JV/JF), and then it wasn't until January that we let one of each go on loan because, seemingly, they weren't wanted. Ain't a thing about that which is relevant to anyone but the manager's preference. I don't believe he wanted to replace them either.

"No defensive midfielder" - again, depends on tactics, but Winks, Sissoko, Skipp, Dier, Wanyama - all of them were (even if not exclusively) that role under Poch. Gedson is and he came in in January.

"half a season with no creative no. 10" - Seems oddly specific, but it was always pretty much accepted that Gio was the Eriksen replacement. The lack of overlap seems to make it sound like he wasn't replaced, but rather Bergwijn replaced him under a different area of need. What's Ndombele if he isn't a DM or Number 10 anyway? I know they are very specific roles, but it seems like a thin argument to be that specific when ignoring all the guys we have and brought in.

As per "1 striker", it's been mentioned many times before, but Poch only really ever used Kane/Son for that role - he ignored Llorente for the most part, even infuriatingly when Kane was out and Son needed a break. The winter window was a time we should have replaced him, but I get that there was bugger all of value to be found and we spent a lot on GLC/Ndombele/Bergwijn etc.

I wanted to elaborate on that because it seems to be brought up a lot for people's reasons to be annoyed, but there's a lot about it that's accurate and it comes across as an excuse to be annoyed.