Jose Mourinho

[spursfan77]

Fair dues to Mou - his BBC interview was not holding back on the players mentality.

Problem is it's his job to sort that shit out.

I don’t think it can be sorted out. We need new players. 3/4rs of the squad can go.

 

[Spursmatty87]

Bet levy’s think ooh fook. Wonder if levy inserted a max pay out. I don’t think this is all Jose fault at all but I just can’t see him doing the job we need him too. I can’t see Jose wanting to do it either.

 

[dtxspurs]

I feel for him in some ways, he's put trust in Davies, Dier and Sanchez, they have let him down

Is he past it stylistically who knows, doesn’t look good though.

He's a fucking moron then for putting "trust" in those three.

 

[mpickard2087]

The thing puzzling me in all this...what the fuck is Sacramento’s role? It’s like when we appointed Ramos and pretended that Gus Poyet was going to be the most amazing assistant. AVB and Steffen Freund. Sacramento can’t be the brightest spark in football like some claim if he’s supporting this 6 year out of date shite that we are serving up can he?

I’m certain I always said I needed Jose to be judged after a pre season, but we’ve kind of had that with the Covid, and we’re even worse than we were before hand with a fully fit squad.

Bag carrier, as with 99 out of 100 assistants. Maybe one day I'll be wrong but I said at the time it was likely PR guff.

 

[spursfan77]

I’ve mentioned this before, but I wonder if there’s a no champions league qualification break clause in his contract. We know there’s a bonus but could this be in there too?

 

[Dillspur]

It's getting harder to stay patient...

 

[C0YS]

I'm not sure the point you are making. Stop quoting precovid. The players are worth what they are worth, not much and definitely not enough to rebuild the team.

Yeh I don't think you read my first post properly. I think we would get significant money for them that would be enough for. say, a decent holding player and a fullback. Pre-covid, post-covid makes no functional difference because the players would still be valued relatively the same. If anything it slightly helps as the difference in player prices would be reduced.

 

[felmani26]

The thing puzzling me in all this...what the fuck is Sacramento’s role? It’s like when we appointed Ramos and pretended that Gus Poyet was going to be the most amazing assistant. AVB and Steffen Freund. Sacramento can’t be the brightest spark in football like some claim if he’s supporting this 6 year out of date shite that we are serving up can he?

I’m certain I always said I needed Jose to be judged after a pre season, but we’ve kind of had that with the Covid, and we’re even worse than we were before hand with a fully fit squad.

I think you give far too much credence to an assistant manager - certainly wouldn't be making much of an influence on the pitch particularly if his ethos differs greatly from Jose's.

 

[spursfan77]

Wow, the last two paragraphs. He doesn’t think the players have it in them does he?


How do you motivate these players for the last few games?

It's very easy to motivate myself because it's my nature. I always say when a professional player needs an external motivation source, then he is in trouble.

The motivation should be self-motivation, directly related to your professionalism, directly related with respect for your job, your club, the fans. That is the most important thing.

The manager can just help but the nature of the player as a professional is the most important.


Clearly if these boys don't care about results and don't care about the position we finish at the end of the season we'll be in big, big trouble for the future.

So I hope that they care and fight for the best position in the table for the end of the season.

 

[dtxspurs]

Oh come on January is always stupidly difficult for every side, and three weeks with no friendlies or time to try new things is not a pre season. Christ the first three weeks of a normal pre season is basically just fitness training.

Give me a break with this January is so difficult. Bergwijn, Bruno Fernandes, Haaland, Laporte, Pulisic, Minamino, Ighalo, Berge, Bowen, Tielemans, Kulusevski, Alcacer, Lobotka, Dani Olmo, Palacios, Weigl. All done the last year or two.

If you pay the money, good players are available all year round.

 

[S17PUR]

Ultimately we're paying for a lot of poor business and in some cases lack of business in the transfer market. That said, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't much rather have Pochettino overseeing a painful rebuild than Mourinho. Jose takes that pain and somehow transfers it onto the pitch. Our football is so uninspiring and defensive.

We need to spend a lot if we're even going to compete for the top 6 next season, but equally there are a lot of players that we could shift. If we're clever, we could still overhaul the team without spending exorbitant sums. I'm just not sure that I trust Levy to do it, and I'm not too keen on Jose picking players that fit his style because I'd rather we didn't play that way anyway.

 

[felmani26]

Rightly or wrongly, players will always determine the managers fate.

If there is a rotten core, or the majority aren't onboard with the managers philosophy then he won't get the opportunity to make the necessary overhaul - the players will win out.

 

[Dougal]

It's always the way.

The club has sleep walked into this situation. Remember when Poch joined and Spurs were the youngest team in the league by quite a margin, now what is it?

The club/team has not been that well run for a couple of seasons and this is why we are where we are.

It’s more than a couple. Levy was distracted by the stadium and neglected the playing side. And right now we’re enjoying neither.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Today was a real shit show but we shouldn’t judge Jose until he’s had at least the summer window, a full preseason and then x amount of games next season.

There’s so many issues with the team at the moment that cannot be resolved at least in part until the summer window has opened and then closed.

Pre Lockdown we had ITK that Jose wanted what was it 7-9 players? Lloris, Vertonghen and Sissoko wanted out, Rose was being a tit, Ndombele was a lazy fat knacker and we had an horrendous injury crisis to cope with.

Barring the injury crisis all of the above issues still need to be resolved. In addition to this there’s been question marks raised over Kane’s future, Alli’s continued his unwanted stint at stealing a living, Alderweireld can’t a sniff, Son can’t be arsed and so on.

Whether it be tinkering and strengthening mentality or a bloody overhaul of the squad... it’s wishful thinking to expect the team to be performing week in the week out.

The rest of the season should be used to experiment with the squad and youngsters and look to build a future with those who want to be here.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Wow, the last two paragraphs. He doesn’t think the players have it in them does he?


How do you motivate these players for the last few games?

It's very easy to motivate myself because it's my nature. I always say when a professional player needs an external motivation source, then he is in trouble.

The motivation should be self-motivation, directly related to your professionalism, directly related with respect for your job, your club, the fans. That is the most important thing.

The manager can just help but the nature of the player as a professional is the most important.


Clearly if these boys don't care about results and don't care about the position we finish at the end of the season we'll be in big, big trouble for the future.

So I hope that they care and fight for the best position in the table for the end of the season.

Sounds like the ghosts of managers past ...

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I think you give far too much credence to an assistant manager - certainly wouldn't be making much of an influence on the pitch particularly if his ethos differs greatly from Jose's.

So then why make such a big deal of it?

 

[wrd]

It's not Jose fault that we agreed a fee and medical for Bruno but wouldn't pull the trigger until we turned a profit on Eriksen and then when we finally did that Bruno now cost double the amount and was off to a rival.

To dare is too dear.

I think Jose needs to be given a full season and won't judge him too harshly until then but I don't think he will be given the resources needed to crack on.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Rightly or wrongly, players will always determine the managers fate.

If there is a rotten core, or the majority aren't onboard with the managers philosophy then he won't get the opportunity to make the necessary overhaul - the players will win out.

Yes and no, Poch lost the players and now Jose is having issues with the same players. You can’t keep hiring managers until the players decide they like one of them. As per our last overhaul when we got rid of the Billy Big bollocks bridge... Kaboul, Assou-Ekotto, Adebayor and co, we need a similar rejuvenation of the squad.

 

[Dougal]

Wow, the last two paragraphs. He doesn’t think the players have it in them does he?


How do you motivate these players for the last few games?

It's very easy to motivate myself because it's my nature. I always say when a professional player needs an external motivation source, then he is in trouble.

The motivation should be self-motivation, directly related to your professionalism, directly related with respect for your job, your club, the fans. That is the most important thing.

The manager can just help but the nature of the player as a professional is the most important.


Clearly if these boys don't care about results and don't care about the position we finish at the end of the season we'll be in big, big trouble for the future.

So I hope that they care and fight for the best position in the table for the end of the season.

So it’s not his job to motivate them now either? I fucking give up.

 

[Snarfalicious]

So it’s not his job to motivate them now either? I fucking give up.

That reads like a manager who knows he doesn’t have the squad’s trust/belief. Already skirting blame and now it’s a player issue, not a management/getting the best out of his players situation. I guess it’ll be interesting to see how these unmotivated players who lack professionalism respond.