Jose Mourinho

[spursfan77]

I have watched them, go and watch the Arsenal match when they lost 3-2 or the Palace and Watford matches, they were playing through the lines and played more short passes on average. Calling them a long ball team is just lazy.

You even had people on here remarking how they play better football than us before the break.

well, I’m not going to go back and watch their games am I. This is an easy reference though. They are 6th in the league for long balls, we are 16th (and our fans perceive us as a long ball team under Mourinho when we are obviously not).

Premier League Club Stats - Long Balls

View Long Balls played by Premier League clubs for 2018/19 and previous seasons, on the official website of the Premier League.

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[feet01]

I can’t remember too many long balls being played against Utd the other day. Seems to be a bit of a myth by the anti Mourinho lot to have a cheap dig at him. Poch used to use the long ball a fair bit I remember, except when he used to bring Llorente on when it stopped!

 

[slartibartfast]

I dont think anyone is asking for instant success - but that football in the second half was turgid... and it isnt even that effective overall... I just dont understand how anyone think Kane defending his 18 yrd box is effective or best use of the resources available.

We pay him 15m a year and I suspect Levy has done that so Jose can increase the the teams performances greater than the sum of its parts... hell... even equal

Agree completely. Kane is done with JM at the wheel, he may as well not be there.
He'll be off soon because of it.
If anyone thinks Kane, Son and Alli will stay when they're being asked to defend and rarely see the ball then I'm afraid you're having a laugh.
They're not enjoying it and you can see that.
And thats why the wheels will fall off, when he inevitably falls out with the skilled attacking players.

 

[slartibartfast]

I can’t remember too many long balls being played against Utd the other day. Seems to be a bit of a myth by the anti Mourinho lot to have a cheap dig at him. Poch used to use the long ball a fair bit I remember, except when he used to bring Llorente on when it stopped!

I will say there was a lot less edge of your seat fkin around at the back and Lloris was kicking it out clearing his lines.
Obviously the first kick flew off the pitch as he still cant kick a ball but there was a lot less tippy tappy, throw it out to a goal facing cb with a striker up his arse, thankfully.

 

[Shadydan]

well, I’m not going to go back and watch their games am I. This is an easy reference though. They are 6th in the league for long balls, we are 16th (and our fans perceive us as a long ball team under Mourinho when we are obviously not).

Premier League Club Stats - Long Balls

View Long Balls played by Premier League clubs for 2018/19 and previous seasons, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

Well seeing as you're the one who suggested that I haven't watched any of their matches I literally gave you an example of a matched I watched

BTW those stats are for the whole season, Ancelotti came in in December, hardly a fair comparison.

 

[dudu]

My view.

Did we look more defensively sound than we have all season? Yes

Kane, Son, Begwijn all been injured and clearly rusty, Lamela not entirely finding his passing rage just yet.

Down to Mourinho for not playing other personnel who have been either injured or unfit? I would have loved to have seen a more dynamic midfielder in there and I believe we will as the games go on.

Personally, as great as Lamela was at winning us the ball back and getting us on the front foot, he rarely did anything with the ball when he had it and I personally think Lo Celso can take the role Lamela was playing vs United and make it a more productive one going forward while only losing a little bit of the bite he brings to the team.

 

[buckley]

Those that want Jose out will twist the facts to suit their agenda this is because they can see that its going to take time for Jose to get the team playing his way which is a way that wins matches and eventually trophies .
I have said already that Mourhino was not my choice as manager but he is ; therefore I am 100% supporting him because to support Jose is to support spurs in my eyes to carry on this anti Jose thing is to be anti spurs its akin to throwing your toys out of your pram .

 

[buckley]

The second best thing these anti Mourhino people can do is keep their mouths shut until all goes tits up which is what will happen in their eyes . And then they can say "I told you so " instead of this constant pick pick pick moan moan moan . give it a rest your like spoilt children who can't get their own way.

 

[JimmyG2]

I back Jose to make an impact next season. You you can see he is trying to make us harder to beat with the tactics deployed against United. It might not be pretty at times but not losing is most important to us now.

He needs to be ruthless over the summer too. We're not going to have much capital to strengthen without selling, and that will mean tough decisions need to be made and letting some players go that we'd all like to do well.

See us finishing 7th or 8th as things stand. A year to focus away from CL and EL could do us well football wise (financially a nightmare i guess)

Winning is more important than not losing in our present position.

 

[rossdapep]

Agree completely. Kane is done with JM at the wheel, he may as well not be there.
He'll be off soon because of it.
If anyone thinks Kane, Son and Alli will stay when they're being asked to defend and rarely see the ball then I'm afraid you're having a laugh.
They're not enjoying it and you can see that.
And thats why the wheels will fall off, when he inevitably falls out with the skilled attacking players.

So Kane didn't have a problem with tirelessly pressing players, in other words defending from the front, but he'll have a problem with standing in the most offensive position and waiting for an attack to start??

 

[buckley]

With The possible or probable loss of european football cash large parts of any such loss could be offset with stadium / training ground/ shirt sleeves sponsorship . So come on Danny boy get a move on but to be fair any movement on this front was probably curtailed by cv19.

 

[he is you know!]

Agree completely. Kane is done with JM at the wheel, he may as well not be there.
He'll be off soon because of it.
If anyone thinks Kane, Son and Alli will stay when they're being asked to defend and rarely see the ball then I'm afraid you're having a laugh.
They're not enjoying it and you can see that.
And thats why the wheels will fall off, when he inevitably falls out with the skilled attacking players.

Congrats on your new job on Soccer Saturday!

 

[Metalhead]

So Kane didn't have a problem with tirelessly pressing players, in other words defending from the front, but he'll have a problem with standing in the most offensive position and waiting for an attack to start??

Thing is that fans who don't want Jose here are going to read into it in any way that fits in with their view.

 

[spursville]

Short memory mate.
Top fourteen when he got the tin tack....remember?

Sacking Poch so quickly after so many high finishes in the league and then one,long bad period from the start of 2019 (that he himself predicted) will surely be looked back on as a mistake.

 

[parj]

Let's be honest....

Having watched Spurs over the last year, what would have been the first thing you'd try to fix?

If it was me, it would have been the defence and the terrible mistakes we'd been making. Mistakes that had been happening very frequently in Poch's last year.

Start with that, build stability and grow confidence then work on helping players become more destructive in attack.

Ok, let me ask you this... What adds more pressure to the defence, trying to retain possession and be progressive with the ball, or get it to your 3 attackers and not support them in order to preserve your shape?

 

[spursville]

Do you honestly think playing with the current tactics will win us anything? We can't beat mid table teams now.

Playing positive football, JM got us the second in-form team. It was working.

Playing negative we have gone backwards.

I am suggesting that JM has pretty much always played reactive, percentage and often boring football since he arrived. The players aren't playing with freedom, there's no clearly defined style. Hell, Brighton the other day looked better than us! 38 or 39% possession at home is just a shit show.

 

[parj]

I remember the early years ( not months ) of Ferguson and he was one match away from being sacked .
I remember the year Everton won the league for about 6 games in they were bottom of the league when Howard Kendall was manager .
The game is littered with people that were poor at the start of their reign only to go onto be very successful .
Our own Burkenshaw some would say was lucky not to get the tin tack .
For goodness sake chill out and give the man at least a chance to succeed ; surely the time to judge is at the end of next season when he has had the chance to put his own stamp on the squad all be it with mostly players out of contract .
He is not the manager of my choice but to go against him is to go against spurs as a club and my feelings is he will have my backing unless he becomes untenable due to results after a long series of bad results with no signs of improvement .
By the way for myself in the United game there were some positive signs with the defence and teams that are good are almost always built on a solid defence . Unfortunately we do not have a natural defensive midfielder if we had one I believe we dont concede that United goal.

I remember that very same team giving JM not even 3 years after he spent over £300m.

 

[Gb160]

Sacking Poch so quickly after so many high finishes in the league and then one,long bad period from the start of 2019 (that he himself predicted) will surely be looked back on as a mistake.

So we sacked him quickly, at the end of one long bad period?
That doesn't make a lot of sense.

He'd lost the dressing room, and we were amassing a relegation form points tally.
Accept it, he had to go.

 

[NickHSpurs]

I thought the United game gave us a glimpse of what we can do under Jose if he has time with all of our players fit.

We were very organised at the back which we haven't been for a long time. Our defensive shape was excellent and the players really knew their roles and helped and covered each other after attacking. You could tell he'd had a good amount of time with them on the training pitch.

I think we'll be a really tough side to beat for these last 8 games, in fact I genuinely don't think we'll lose any. We just have to hope our match winners find sharpness soon so we can put games to bed.

 

[parj]

I am suggesting that JM has pretty much always played reactive, percentage and often boring football since he arrived. The players aren't playing with freedom, there's no clearly defined style. Hell, Brighton the other day looked better than us! 38 or 39% possession at home is just a shit show.

Totally agree with you but We were actually playing good football up until the first Chelsea game. He went negative big time and used injuries as justification. Not many injuries now and still not going back to playing football.