Jose Mourinho

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

The way some are going on you would think that Spurs have never played negatively ever before, go back to 23rd November 1963 away to Ipswich Town , manager Bill Nicholson set us up to play the offside trap can't remember exactly how often the Ipswich forwards were caught out but pretty sure it was into double figures . We have played some negative football under every manager from Bill to Jose apart maybe from Ossie when it was charge of the light brigade stuff, don't leave anybody defending.

Playing the offside trap and playing with 11 players behind the ball are completely different. There are lots of teams who play attacking football and at the same time have a high line playing the offside trap.

Sticking 11 men behind the ball and playing on the break against the worst teams in the league with inferior squads is negative football. 1 - 0 George Graham was negative football.

At some point Id expect every one of our managers to have played a defensive game against the teams that are better than us, that's tactics and sensible at times. But playing negative football and being dominated by worst teams than us at home is a completely different matter.

 

[Gb160]

But playing negative football and being dominated by worst teams than us at home is a completely different matter.

It's a means to an end.

 

[shelfboy68]

It will work out. When I say "work out" I don't mean necessarily for very many seasons in a row. But for sure, beyond doubt for me, we'll have a good season next season with entertaining football.
First, let's get everybody back from injury.
Then, let's get everybody rested and rejuvenated.
Then, let's bring onboard a couple of new signings.
Then, let's get some stability, so the players can actually work on Mourinho's plan A, rather than constantly having to adjust to tweaks and patches due to major injuries.
The circumstances now are really hard. Much harder than for any other Spurs manager for the last 12 years. But the ceiling is also so high.

Don't forget the Euros in the summer there is the possibility of burnout of a number of our players resulting in poor performance next year.

 

[markiespurs]

It's a means to an end.

It's getting boring now with the amount of people that don't realise this

 

[monkeynick]

It's getting boring now with the amount of people that don't realise this

We’re all bored

 

[spurfetto]

THST meeting with the Spurs Board: Report

On the evening of Monday 2 March 2020, representatives of the Trust Board met with representatives of the Spurs Executive Board and senior Club staff for a scheduled 'Board to Board' meeting. The...

www.thstofficial.com

Dont know if people have seen this yet

 

[VegasII]

THST meeting with the Spurs Board: Report

On the evening of Monday 2 March 2020, representatives of the Trust Board met with representatives of the Spurs Executive Board and senior Club staff for a scheduled 'Board to Board' meeting. The...

www.thstofficial.com

Dont know if people have seen this yet

Thanks

 

[bat-chain]

And I gave you a load of examples of old managers and players succeeding and you blew past it to repeat what you said before.

Look, old chap, if you hate Mourinho, that's entirely your prerogative. It's not for me or anyone else to say that you musn't hate him. But at least be honest about it. Just say you hate him and you always will no matter what he does. At least ChelseaSlagOut Boy doesn't pretend it's for any reason other than blind hatred. If you feel you need to justify that hatred, then maybe you need to look at why you feel you need to hate him, rather than try to convince others to hate him too...

But if you want to tell me what I think it would be nice if you could actually get it right, at least some of it.

I don't blindly hate anyone on this earth, not one person. Especially not him, I like Jose's persona, I like his open interviews to the fans, I think he's more honest than Pochettino at times. I respect that he has got Tanganga through, he is giving game time to Skipp I love that. He is playing Parrott a bit I love that. I like that he has made Lo Celso central to his plans, tried to reinvigorate Dier. There are other things.

If we came out on the front foot against teams and showed a bit of bravery I would love him, that’s all it would take. I feel Sad for him that he is adopting a style that will guarantee failure.

I fear the club is going to regress, I fear technically gifted players are going to leave rather than play this style. Anything I say bad about him comes from this not hatred, Kane could play for Klopp, Guardiola, Zidane playing beautiful football, Lo Celso and Son the same and Ndombele too. They don't need to waste their careers playing like this, feeding off scraps. I am frightened what we'll be left with.

 

[spids]

Thanks

Confused as to why this is in the Mourinho thread - I couldn't see anything relevant in the meeting minutes... or did I miss something related to Jose?

 

[Gb160]

• KL suggested that, given strong feelings among certain fans about Jose Mourinho, it would be beneficial to give fans the chance to meet him in person
• DMC confirmed the Club will be organising a Fans Forum with JM in the near future

@monkeynick you could go and get his autograph mate

 

[scat1620]

THST meeting with the Spurs Board: Report

On the evening of Monday 2 March 2020, representatives of the Trust Board met with representatives of the Spurs Executive Board and senior Club staff for a scheduled 'Board to Board' meeting. The...

www.thstofficial.com

Dont know if people have seen this yet

Christ, section 2 makes grim reading! The club's position reads as basically "we couldn't possibly be doing anything different/better; injuries are to blame for all our woes; and we don't concede even the remote possibility that spending more on the squad might result in improvements on the pitch".

Fuck me, that is scary shit.

 

[spurfetto]

Confused as to why this is in the Mourinho thread - I couldn't see anything relevant in the meeting minutes... or did I miss something related to Jose?

I wasnt really sure where to put it tbh

 

[yankspurs]

Christ, section 2 makes grim reading! The club's position reads as basically "we couldn't possibly be doing anything different/better; injuries are to blame for all our woes; and we don't concede even the remote possibility that spending more on the squad might result in improvements on the pitch".

Fuck me, that is scary shit.

That is why the club needs to be taken over. The board has no appetite to win anything.

 

[monkeynick]

@monkeynick you could go and get his autograph mate

I’d love to but the injunction makes it tricky, plus he was reluctant to use my excrement last time

 

[Shadydan]

I see the term "snowflake" is the new insult from the online hardman.

It as polite way of saying pussy, just own it.

 

[jay2040]

are you being deliberately thick? Someone else made the comparison about why give one time and not the other, it isn’t that hard.

Mourinho has been left behind by modern football, he hasn’t developed a front foot style in 20 years, he's too afraid to have his teams go out attack anyone. Not Burnley, not Norwich, not Leipzig, not Southampton.

To put it another way, imagine he had been in charge of Burnley yesterday, would he have come at us and dominated as they did, he'd have played a flat back six and hoped to nick something. That’s it that’s all he has.

There is a level of delusion or dishonesty amongst our fans that something good is bound to happen if we give it time because it’s Mourinho but if you examine the way he plays, there is almost no evidence of that being successful today in 2020.

Liverpool, Man City, Wolves, Leeds, Sheffield Utd, Chelsea, Leicester. None of the best teams in England today are sitting in and hoping to steal a result. Playing flat back 5's, at Burnley, surrendering initiative in games.

I'm not being deliberately thick- was just doing an impression of you.

Apart from Man City and Liverpool the teams you mentioned - think their managers have had less trophies put together than Jose so don't mean shit!

If he wants to play 6 at back I would support him.

Extremely short sighted to focus on 5 CBs and not taking into account injuries and forthcoming fixtures and we still did not lose the game.

It appears you see the glass as half empty and I see it as half full.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I’d love to but the injunction makes it tricky, plus he was reluctant to use my excrement last time

Been following old Jose around for a while, eh? Makes sense now.

 

[Wsussexspur]

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Christ, section 2 makes grim reading! The club's position reads as basically "we couldn't possibly be doing anything different/better; injuries are to blame for all our woes; and we don't concede even the remote possibility that spending more on the squad might result in improvements on the pitch".

Fuck me, that is scary shit.

Not Sure if I should be surprised or not by the apparent ignorance from the board to the current negative atmosphere around the club and the massive frustration of the fans about how they are running the club.

 

[scat1620]

Christ, section 2 makes grim reading! The club's position reads as basically "we couldn't possibly be doing anything different/better; injuries are to blame for all our woes; and we don't concede even the remote possibility that spending more on the squad might result in improvements on the pitch".

Fuck me, that is scary shit.

And then after reading the "we're doing as well as we possibly could" schtick in section 2, you soon get to section 4.1, where the Trust make a bunch of requests to make the most expensive season tickets in the world a little bit better value for money, and the club say "thanks, we've noted your suggestions, but we won't confirm that we'll look to implement even a single one of them."

Fucking Jesus tapdancing Christ.

 

[Wsussexspur]

After reading that I am even more confused why Jose was the number 1 target to replace a Potch? Given his history of spending large amounts of money at previous clubs. It doesn’t seem like that will be happening with us.

We can Certainly can forget the large Rebuild the team clearly needs. Best get used to going back to mid table mediocrity.

Feel even more than ever that this whole Jose experiment is going to end in a very nasty mess