Jose Mourinho

[Lighty64]

3 points off top 4 with 8 games to play and in a cup final.

wow considering when I last popped my head in here everyone was celebrating being top, and in the final after some real tricky ties.

 

[WinksyBoy]

wow considering when I last popped my head in here everyone was celebrating being top, and in the final after some real tricky ties.

Seems like you were bad luck, when you last 'popped your head in here'.

 

[Lighty64]

Seems like you were bad luck, when you last 'popped your head in here'.

oh I've always been or had bad luck stretching over my nearly 57yrs. I could bet on a 1 horse race and still lose

 

[Chirpystheman]

You're getting disagrees not dislikes.

I believe the disagrees are for believing that Skriniar was easily doable and for saying you give Jose big bucks. Every manager should be backed. We spent around £100m in the summer plus the loans of Bale and Vinicius. He has been backed.

Your maths is way off. We spent 60m. Unless you are including the 30m for lo celso which was always happening.

 

[dtxspurs]

If we got top 4 of course he’d deserve another season, I think that’s undeniable. But there’d be a very justifiable fear that it was just delaying the inevitable.

Long and short is, we’re at the business end of the season and I don’t think any of us can honestly say we’ve enjoyed supporting Spurs so far this season.

Fuck no for me. Get rid. Thanks for top 4 but it ain't going to work here. He hasn't made it past the third season in 14 years, would be a complete waste of time. People who back him always cite his historical record. Why would even they want him here for a third season based off his history?

Not jumping at you at all, curious to hear what his supporters justifications are for that.

 

[olliec]

Fuck no for me. Get rid. Thanks for top 4 but it ain't going to work here. He hasn't made it past the third season in 14 years, would be a complete waste of time. People who back him always cite his historical record. Why would even they want him here for a third season based off his history?

Not jumping at you at all, curious to hear what his supporters justifications are for that.

but this is his first full season. Next season will be his second. He came half way through a season so that doesn’t count as a full season.

 

[rossdapep]

Doesn’t deserve a dislike rating so screw you @chrisd2k

but this is his first full season. Next season will be his second. He came half way through a season so that doesn’t count as a full season.

nah, that first season was plenty of time for him to
- Know his squad
- Know what he needed
- Bed in the foundations
- Give the players a working structure and
- Get a large chunk of the squad in tune with what he wants.

18 months later and:
- He's swapping CBs every week almost
- He's changing strategy every time we have a bad result
- He's coming unstuck in EXACTLY the same situations
- He still hasn't been able to get the team to play through a press -unless it's a ball into the channel
- He still doesn't know his best RB CM pairing or RWF and
- To compound it, he signed 9 players in his time here and none of them have been a real success bar Hojbjerg
- Hhe's claiming the squad isn't good enough despite saying so earlier on
- He's had three transfer windows
- He hasn't improved hardly any player.
- He's getting/has been tactically outsmarted by Lampard (twice), Solskjaer (twice), Potter, Parker, Hodgson, Wilder, Farke, Hassenhuttl, Nagelsmann, Moyes, A Croatian prisoner and now Steve Fucking Bruce.
- Some of these coaches have lost or drawn in these games vs us but they had large periods in which we looked inept and they had us pinned back.

He's killing the mood in the club and when the stadium is opened the mood will be incredibly toxic the minute go a goal down or have a poor period in a game.

He doesn't deserve nor should he get a second season, if you want to really call it that.

 

[jay2040]

I just don't see how a manager who can't beat an embarrassingly bad Newcastle side will be able to beat Man City. Since our early season promise, he has been unable to inspire us to beat anyone of note so I just don't see this changing. I hope I'm wrong as a trophy would lift a big weight off our shoulders as a football club and could be a springboard to greater things.

Its not the manager that lost us the Newcastle game, its individual errors!

 

[jay2040]

nah, that first season was plenty of time for him to
- Know his squad
- Know what he needed
- Bed in the foundations
- Give the players a working structure and
- Get a large chunk of the squad in tune with what he wants.

18 months later and:
- He's swapping CBs every week almost
- He's changing strategy every time we have a bad result
- He's coming unstuck in EXACTLY the same situations
- He still hasn't been able to get the team to play through a press -unless it's a ball into the channel
- He still doesn't know his best RB CM pairing or RWF and
- To compound it, he signed 9 players in his time here and none of them have been a real success bar Hojbjerg
- Hhe's claiming the squad isn't good enough despite saying so earlier on
- He's had three transfer windows
- He hasn't improved hardly any player.
- He's getting/has been tactically outsmarted by Lampard (twice), Solskjaer (twice), Potter, Parker, Hodgson, Wilder, Farke, Hassenhuttl, Nagelsmann, Moyes, A Croatian prisoner and now Steve Fucking Bruce.
- Some of these coaches have lost or drawn in these games vs us but they had large periods in which we looked inept and they had us pinned back.

He's killing the mood in the club and when the stadium is opened the mood will be incredibly toxic the minute go a goal down or have a poor period in a game.

He doesn't deserve nor should he get a second season, if you want to really call it that.

The results are killing the mood not the manager.

He wants us to win and should have another season after getting rid of the shit players.

With so many variables this season and inconsistent performances he has actually done well tk get us where we are.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Its not the manager that lost us the Newcastle game, its individual errors!

You're wasting your time mate, if anything Mourinho is more to blame for Newcastle.

He got the line up wrong, he got the changes after half time wrong. Usually I'd argue the same point but I feel he is just as guilty for the result.

On occasion this season we have been let down by individual errors but the draw was a cumulation of a bunch of bad decisions.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

You're wasting your time mate, if anything Mourinho is more to blame for Newcastle.

He got the line up wrong, he got the changes after half time wrong. Usually I'd argue the same point but I feel he is just as guilty for the result.

On occasion this season we have been let down by individual errors but the draw was a cumulation of a bunch of bad decisions.

I'm not sure I agree. These bad decisions.........They always, always fly on the premise that doing it how SC sees it would have achieved a different result.

Which makes winning the title easy, all shortstuff has to do is appoint a panel of SC'ers to the managers job and the 'mistakes' would be eradicated. Does he make mistakes? Of course. But not everything is a mistake.

Thrown under the bus is a popular phrase on here and that's exactly what the players have done. You can play whatever tactics you like, the style might not be pretty, the results might not follow, but a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer. There are far too many players in the squad who are hiding safe in the knowledge that Mourinho and his reputation will do the rest.

I'm not saying he should stay, that horse rode out of town a while ago and his recent comments really didn't help, but don't let the lemming-like rush to blame Mourinho for absolutely everything including the sinking of the Titanic and the Ripper murders blind you. Some of our players are fucking cowards, petulant, lazy and lacking the character to either fight for their places, their team mates, the supporters or the club.

They need rooting out and moving on because eventually, the next guy will be on the receiving end of it, they have form, the dressing room Omerta kept it hidden during the fag end of Pochettino's reign, Mourinho's divisiveness removed that luxury, the one good thing you might possibly say he's done is to create the conditions where it's been exposed and make no mistake, it's not a small thing, this has had a big, big bearing on things. To repeat, no matter the system, tactics or whatnot, a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer, with the obvious exceptions, this lot simply haven't turned up

As to their identity, well, we'll all have our onions on that but the SC guesstimator will probably easily root the worst of them out.

 

[Bubble44]

Ali Z said:
Am not as sure that he is gone no matter what if he gets top 4 he gets stay of execution is still what I am hearing.

 

[Trix]

I'm not sure I agree. These bad decisions.........They always, always fly on the premise that doing it how SC sees it would have achieved a different result.

Which makes winning the title easy, all shortstuff has to do is appoint a panel of SC'ers to the managers job and the 'mistakes' would be eradicated. Does he make mistakes? Of course. But not everything is a mistake.

Thrown under the bus is a popular phrase on here and that's exactly what the players have done here. You can play whatever tactics you like, the style might not be pretty, the results might not follow, but a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer. There are far too many players in the squad who are hiding safe in the knowledge that Mourinho and his reputation will do the rest.

I'm not saying he should stay, that horse rode out of town a while ago and his recent comments really didn't help, but don't let the lemming-like rush to blame Mourinho for absolutely everything including the sinking of the Titanic and the Ripper murders blind you. Some of our players are fucking cowards, petulant, lazy and lacking the character to either fight for their places, their team mates, the supporters or the club.

They need rooting out and moving on because eventually, the next guy will be on the receiving end of it, they have form, the dressing room Omerta kept it hidden during the fag end of Pochettino's reign, Mourinho's divisiveness removed that luxury, the one good thing you might possibly say he's done is to create the conditions where it's been exposed and make no mistake, it's not a small thing, this has had a big, big bearing on things. To repeat, no matter the system, tactics or whatnot, a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer, with the obvious exceptions, this lot simply haven't turned up

As to their identity, well, we'll all have our onions on that but the SC guesstimator will probably easily root the worst of them out.

Great post and bang on the money.

At least the clubs hierarchy are aware of certain individuals that have only their own interests in mind. As I've said in other posts at the very least those players should be moved out in the Summer. They are quite simply cowards and their snake like behaviour needs to be out of our dressing room asap.

 

[Trix]

Ali Z said:
Am not as sure that he is gone no matter what if he gets top 4 he gets stay of execution is still what I am hearing.

No chance!!!

 

[Bubble44]

When one Poster said. that he is worried that there is so much faith in Jose.

Ali Z said
From 1 of the board and he makes the final decision.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Ali Z said
From 1 of the board and he makes the final decision.

I don't understand?

 

[wrd]

I don't understand?

I think he's saying there's only 1 member of the board who has faith in Jose and that is Levy.

 

[LeParisien]

I'm not sure I agree. These bad decisions.........They always, always fly on the premise that doing it how SC sees it would have achieved a different result.

Which makes winning the title easy, all shortstuff has to do is appoint a panel of SC'ers to the managers job and the 'mistakes' would be eradicated. Does he make mistakes? Of course. But not everything is a mistake.

Thrown under the bus is a popular phrase on here and that's exactly what the players have done here. You can play whatever tactics you like, the style might not be pretty, the results might not follow, but a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer. There are far too many players in the squad who are hiding safe in the knowledge that Mourinho and his reputation will do the rest.

I'm not saying he should stay, that horse rode out of town a while ago and his recent comments really didn't help, but don't let the lemming-like rush to blame Mourinho for absolutely everything including the sinking of the Titanic and the Ripper murders blind you. Some of our players are fucking cowards, petulant, lazy and lacking the character to either fight for their places, their team mates, the supporters or the club.

They need rooting out and moving on because eventually, the next guy will be on the receiving end of it, they have form, the dressing room Omerta kept it hidden during the fag end of Pochettino's reign, Mourinho's divisiveness removed that luxury, the one good thing you might possibly say he's done is to create the conditions where it's been exposed and make no mistake, it's not a small thing, this has had a big, big bearing on things. To repeat, no matter the system, tactics or whatnot, a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer, with the obvious exceptions, this lot simply haven't turned up

As to their identity, well, we'll all have our onions on that but the SC guesstimator will probably easily root the worst of them out.

You’re right we need to sell a few (and bring in a few). But when these “troublemakers” have been nowhere near the first team for extended periods of time, there’s been precious little evidence of something big building. There’s been fairly attritional football and highly variable results. No consistency or signs of being able to exert sustained pressure on the opposition.

As you know, the consensus is that the problems are bigger than Mourinho but Mourinho is a big fucking problem.

 

[Yiddo100]

I don't understand?

Levy I presume

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

I'm not sure I agree. These bad decisions.........They always, always fly on the premise that doing it how SC sees it would have achieved a different result.

Which makes winning the title easy, all shortstuff has to do is appoint a panel of SC'ers to the managers job and the 'mistakes' would be eradicated. Does he make mistakes? Of course. But not everything is a mistake.

Thrown under the bus is a popular phrase on here and that's exactly what the players have done here. You can play whatever tactics you like, the style might not be pretty, the results might not follow, but a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer. There are far too many players in the squad who are hiding safe in the knowledge that Mourinho and his reputation will do the rest.

I'm not saying he should stay, that horse rode out of town a while ago and his recent comments really didn't help, but don't let the lemming-like rush to blame Mourinho for absolutely everything including the sinking of the Titanic and the Ripper murders blind you. Some of our players are fucking cowards, petulant, lazy and lacking the character to either fight for their places, their team mates, the supporters or the club.

They need rooting out and moving on because eventually, the next guy will be on the receiving end of it, they have form, the dressing room Omerta kept it hidden during the fag end of Pochettino's reign, Mourinho's divisiveness removed that luxury, the one good thing you might possibly say he's done is to create the conditions where it's been exposed and make no mistake, it's not a small thing, this has had a big, big bearing on things. To repeat, no matter the system, tactics or whatnot, a good footballer will still show he's a good footballer, with the obvious exceptions, this lot simply haven't turned up

As to their identity, well, we'll all have our onions on that but the SC guesstimator will probably easily root the worst of them out.

Great post and there's no arguing with that.

Would love to see the ratings if it weren't you posting this though