Huntelaar

[JJetset]

K. Davies please stand up.

Now sit down again as you are a useless footballer and it would be the biggest disaster ever if we got someone like that and can you imagine the brand of football we would start playing :roll:

 

[Kendall]

At least it'd stop the **** scoring against us.

 

[StartingPrice]

The signing of VDV kind of makes the need for another foward less important.
If harry is going to play him behind a lone striker, than we have 4 forwards really fighting for one place.
And whilst Defoe seems to be in pole position for that spot, the likes of Huntelaar wouldn't have come to sit on the bench, whilst crouch,pav and keane will be more patient,seeing as 2 of them were seemingly on the way out.

I was very much in favour of signing KJH, but this is very true...it kinda becomes a mute point as to whether what we needed was a very offensive minded midifelder, who can open teams up, or a devastating No9 (yeah, both would have been nice), we got one, I'm happy.

I think if Harry had known VDV was a possibility at a reasonable price a week or so earlier, he may have come in for Huntelaar too. They just look like they would have had the makings of and excellent partnership together.

This is true, also.
But I believe 'Arry has earned a bit of trust form us lot.

Nope.

He doesn't have the physical attributes (i.e. either strength or pace) to be an off-the-shoulder striker in this league. A poor man's Pav.

Redknapp clearly had no interest in him and I'm very glad about that.

Dan, this has been explained to you in very great detail dozens of times:
The games we are struggling to score goals in are the games where teams who are inferior to us sit deep and stifle play. As we are 'up the pitch' and in and around the penalty area for large chunks of the game, the striker we really need would not require the attributes you describe. It would need a player who can find a bit of room from somewheree and put the ball in the back of the bloody net - precisely the attributes that KJH has. I presonally have explained to you several times that the critique you make of him is exactly that whihc was made of Teddy Sheringham at least until part of the way through his Forest career, and many United fans still believed that was what they were buying when he went there to replace Cantona. I have also explained to you, with reference, to the fact that all of our strikers are more than capable of scoring running onto the ball (with a partial exception to Crouch), which is a feature of play when games are stretched (as evidenced by Pav's goal against young boys) - which is an attribute needed when play is more open/stretched, at which time, incidentally, we have absolutely no problem in scoring goals.

It having been explained to you so many times, could you please show that you understand the counter-argument to your own that you are being provided with, and then discount it with logical argument, rather than continually peddling the same nonsense over-and-over again to justify your obviously pathalogical hatred of the guy:shrug:

For the record, I always thought that Dan was a pretty sincere poster, who never abused anyone, and didn't deserve the barracking he got form some quarters - until he got onto his over-the-top and totally irrational obsession with Huntelaar on the ITK thread this Summer - where every time the guy's name was mentioned he posted his sometimes quite abusive and always absurd criticism.

I can sense a IP coming on:bang:

 

[Hoowl]

I have the feeling that the club consider Huntelaar to be another Pavlyuchenko style gamble and we'd rather focus on a player we think is a safer bet to really be a step up from what we have and not persue percieved lesser options if that deal doesn't come off. We identified Fabiano and didn't want to comprimise becase we've already got four decent strikers who are accumstomed to the premiership. With Fabianio signing a new contract we'll presumably have to identify another striker (or mutliple options, as long as they're not comprimises).

There isn't necessarily one style of striker who would improve us. Like most, I'd like to see a strong front man who offers hold-up play as will as his share of goals. This would allow him to play as a lone striker but also with Defoe, who will probably still start the majority of games when fit.

 

[chinaman]

We need a powerful striker who can bully defenders

Like Joe Jordan used to be.

 

[stemark44]

Keane and Defoe have shown in recent International games that they both have very good movement when played as the lead striker.
We now have the added bonus of another player in VDV who has excellent vision in the final third of the pitch.
A player who can play off the striker and can also thread passes into the box for Keane and Defoe.

 

[RobinLeonard]

I quite liked Shakira. Stunning goal.

Behrang Safari, the swedish left back and team mate of Shaqiri in Basel, was talking about him earlier in a press conference. Rates him as one of the best players in the swiss league.

It was a nice goal for sure.

 

[Partizan]

I haven't seen last night's game yet; thought I'd mention him because I imagine many people did. It was particularly the world cup match against Germany where he really impressed me.

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[SpurSince57]

Welcome to Dan Ashcroft's Parallel World of Football.

 

[StartingPrice]

Welcome to Dan Ashcroft's Parallel World.

FYP - to paraphrase Horatio Nelson "I see no football":roll:

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

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Spain even

 

[Real_madyidd]

I for one would have loved him to come to Spurs. Not sure why people think he is weak, he certainly isn't. We need a "fox in the box" and he is one.

 

[richardyoon]

So everytime Huntelaar scores a goal, someone on here always post how great KJH is and how he would be the next Van Basten, a lost opportunity for Spurs, a perfect fit for the PL, etc... I've seen Schalke and KJH play against Hoffenheim and Lyon - KJH did less then Pav did against West Brom last saturday (and at Real Madrid and AC Milan the past 2 years btw). Huntelaar is just an average striker. There was a post on here that KJH would score 25+ goals in the Bundesliga, I'd be surprised if KJH gets more than half that.

 

[dontcallme]

So everytime Huntelaar scores a goal, someone on here always post how great KJH is and how he would be the next Van Basten, a lost opportunity for Spurs, a perfect fit for the PL, etc... I've seen Schalke and KJH play against Hoffenheim and Lyon - KJH did less then Pav did against West Brom last saturday (and at Real Madrid and AC Milan the past 2 years btw). Huntelaar is just an average striker. There was a post on here that KJH would score 25+ goals in the Bundesliga, I'd be surprised if KJH gets more than half that.

Yes and everytime Darren Bent scores we ask why sold him and still have Keane and everytime Taarabt does a stepover and Lennon has a poor game we ask why we sold the next Zidane but kept the next Ruel Fox and everytime Palacios misplaces a pass we wonder why we ever sold Zokora.

It's SC and this is what we do.

 

[DoublePivot]

I don't know if Huntelaar is the second coming or a donkey. But I wouldn't judge him by two games in Gelsenkirchen, because
A) he just joined.
B) Raul, who actually is good and was wanted by many here, has looked as bad if not worse than KJH and
C) the reason both look bad is because they have stripped their midfield of service. They are playing 4 forwards in Rakatic, Farfan, Raul and Huntelaar and the remaining midfielders are Jermain Jones, who is a poor man's Jenas (and by poor man's I'm comparing Rockefeller to a character from the Grapes of Wrath) and some schlep that's not good enough for the Zweite. It's a shit system and it's made me question Magath, which was impossible only a few months ago.

 

[Luka Lennon]

5 goals in 2 games for Holland - looks better in the air than most of our lot, and a good penalty taker

for £10.5m, should we not have taken a punt? Always a tough one, and I must confess I wasn't massively keen on him - he's only really, as far as I can tell, a goal scorer, and a patchy one at that.

But at that price he seems like excellent value

what's that saying about spoilt milk

 

[danielneeds]

Yes and everytime Darren Bent scores we ask why sold him and still have Keane and everytime Taarabt does a stepover and Lennon has a poor game we ask why we sold the next Zidane but kept the next Ruel Fox and everytime Palacios misplaces a pass we wonder why we ever sold Zokora.

It's SC and this is what we do.

Tbf Tarrabt is absolutely on fire for QPR, if he keeps going he will be the best player in the Championship by a country mile this year. Warnock looks a great fit for him, someone who will get hold of him, and be prepared to go toe to toe in terms of ego. It will be very interesting to see him up in the big time if they get promoted.

 

[dontcallme]

Tbf Tarrabt is absolutely on fire for QPR, if he keeps going he will be the best player in the Championship by a country mile this year. Warnock looks a great fit for him, someone who will get hold of him, and be prepared to go toe to toe in terms of ego. It will be very interesting to see him up in the big time if they get promoted.

But that's exactly my point, everytime one of our current players goes on a bit of bad form starts a thread comparing them to an ex-player who is currently playing well.

 

[richardyoon]

I don't know if Huntelaar is the second coming or a donkey. But I wouldn't judge him by two games in Gelsenkirchen, because
A) he just joined.
B) Raul, who actually is good and was wanted by many here, has looked as bad if not worse than KJH and
C) the reason both look bad is because they have stripped their midfield of service. They are playing 4 forwards in Rakatic, Farfan, Raul and Huntelaar and the remaining midfielders are Jermain Jones, who is a poor man's Jenas (and by poor man's I'm comparing Rockefeller to a character from the Grapes of Wrath) and some schlep that's not good enough for the Zweite. It's a shit system and it's made me question Magath, which was impossible only a few months ago.

I agree with you on some level, but i've never seen so many lame excuses given to 1 Non Spurs Player who people on here actually think is a good to great player... i.e. .. KJH never had a chance at Real Madrid, KJH was never a fit for Serie A, KJH never had good service.. etc... he scores against San Marino or Finland.... and people on here rave about him... KJH did absolutely nothing... in 2 games in Schalke... and excuses are already behind lined up for KJH. I don't know how anyone can rate KJH if they've seen him play in actual games (not youtube highlights).

 

[Luka Lennon]

I'd rather we handled Bent better when he was here than buy Huntelaar. Bent is a far better player than he showed during his time at Tottenham and even so he still scored a fair few goals during his short stay but it's all water under the bridge now. Dzeko and Stevie boy McClaren haven't started very well at all in die bundesliga well Dzeko has but results have been crap. We need to put in a stupid big bid for this kid and we'd be flying.