David Bentley last night

[SpurSince57]

Agree with this fully omg: )...The main things that annoy many about him is his lack of desire to get the ball back when he loses it after yet another poor dribble with no pace and his laziness/lack of awareness when he needs to help out in defence. Goals in Burnley games in last year's CC and the first goal on Tuesday were classic examples of that.

And that had nothing to do with the fact that he was indeed played out of position (that's another story BTW).

How conveniently you forget that his first competitive game for us was at LM, followed by appearances in the hole and at RB. I guess that playing people out of position is great tactics when Random does it.

 

[stevenqoz]

SS57 you have an opinion where he plays best for us and I'd bet that it was on the right of midfield. Harry didn't need to do it the other night Gio could have gone left for a much better balanced side....5 in the middle one up top

 

[leetotty]

Sorry Leetotty were you away on holiday most of last season? Bentley was part of reason that we made 4th position not a great part but a contributor all the same. Slating the guy who has not played a competitive game for several months, who played out of position in a weak team against a group of flyers is just unfair. Harry said "He needed a game" (like Gio). Fitness comes from playing. Both Palacios and Gio have not been injured but largely escape the criticism aimed at Bentley. You get what you see a tricky player who lacks pace but is a fine deliverer of the ball....from the right hand side. He will get fitter and I am sure will again play his part. After all he has no form to lose whereas Lennon who he understudies hsa lost his imo.

Yeah he was part of the reason we won 4th last season, the kitboy was also part of the reason. i am not just slating his perfromance based on 1 football match. I am slating him based on the majority of his performances and the majority of the time he spends on the pitch. If you take away the moments of brilliance that Bentley offers, to me Bentley offers to the team what Le tissier did for Soton. The difference is Bentley rarely does the moments of brilliance, unlike Le Tissier. The other major difference Le Tissier was lazy but had a football brain, Bentley doesn't work hard enough when the team doesn't have the ball and my biggest problem with him he doesn;t do enough when we do have the ball for his team mates. He doesn;t make the right runs, doesn't make the right pass, he creates very little and doesn't get involved in many team moves, he is all about David Bentley.

Also, Bentley (like Jenas does) will get more stick when you know he has "something" but just doesn't apply it or learn from it to take himself and the team forward. I don't mind the holywood moments when they don't come off as "To dare is to do" but I do mind that in general he offers very little else in terms of the simple stuff the football for the other 89.55 mins stuff that might create a holywood moment for someone else in our team. Its not Bentley Hotspur when he plays....

And yes Lennon is off form and yes he has a chance to get into the team ahead of him and should be given a chance as maybe I am wrong and maybe Bentley will prove me wrong and when he plays I will support him, but if in January we can replace him I say go for it, as he is not learning and not progressing. But I guess we shall see.

 

[trifon]

I just wonder why Arry never plays Huddlestone on the wing considering how good of a passer he is, just give him the ball and he will whip them with that supreme technique he has, in fact Arry could play him on either wings as he does not have a week foot, right?

alright, you have to stop winding people up

modric is crap, bentley should play in the centre, and huddlestone on the wing... ffs what's next, chimboda for a manager?

regarding bentley, i think he just doesn't cut it for a top team. he has no footballing intelligence at all.

 

[Stoof]

I think it's more of a personal thing against Bentley with some people. Tuesday night, he did an outrageous piece of skill to beat Eboue, carried the ball forward, ignored Pav and Gio and shot from 25 yards which went wide and over. Especially where I was sitting, he was called allsorts from every angle. "You useless ****!!" someone behind me even shouted.

10 minutes later, Pav picked the ball up, cut inside, ignored anyone else and shot from 25 yards, the ball went wide. Same guy behind me..."Suuuuuuppppeerrr, Super Pav....."

Personally I like Bentley as a back up when we have an overlapping fullback, but it still fucks me off no end that we shelled out £16m on him. Potentially worse business than however much we actually spent on Darren Bent.

As much as I like and rate Bentley - and I really do - the Bentley shot was ridiculous. He had better options to the left and right and we were 3 on 2. Pavlyuchenko had nothing else on but a shot so had to take it on and almost scored. But anyway, I still thought that Bentley provided more than Pav and playing massively out of position too. He's not a left winger, not even a left-sided midfielder. That was a really strange decision from Redknapp. I see the theory, but in practice it backfired.

The crowd will never forgive him for unfortunately what was Ramos' ridiculously crap start to the season of which he was involved in.

The first goal of the Redknapp era came from a Bentley cross too. But he was too "Arsenal" and people have issues with money. Mainly because they're stupid.

I really wish people could understand the very basic fact that the only people who get a say in how much a player is valued are the selling club and the buying club. Nothing to do with the player or even his agent. The player does not demand his transfer fee, the club he's being sold from do.

 

[Coyboy]

When viola, SS, BC and myself agree how bad he was, does that either prove he was shit or that the world's gone mad?

 

[Coyboy]

As much as I like and rate Bentley - and I really do - the Bentley shot was ridiculous. He had better options to the left and right and we were 3 on 2. Pavlyuchenko had nothing else on but a shot so had to take it on and almost scored. But anyway, I still thought that Bentley provided more than Pav and playing massively out of position too. He's not a left winger, not even a left-sided midfielder. That was a really strange decision from Redknapp. I see the theory, but in practice it backfired.

The crowd will never forgive him for unfortunately what was Ramos' ridiculously crap start to the season of which he was involved in.

The first goal of the Redknapp era came from a Bentley cross too. But he was too "Arsenal" and people have issues with money. Mainly because they're stupid.

I really wish people could understand the very basic fact that the only people who get a say in how much a player is valued are the selling club and the buying club. Nothing to do with the player or even his agent. The player does not demand his transfer fee, the club he's being sold from do.

Being Arsenal made no difference to me, just as Gallas didn't. Gallas I am unsure of still but Bentley I never wanted, never rated and always thought and still do despite Lennon's form was far, far inferior to AL and more unsuitable to our style of play.

 

[BorisTM]

alright, you have to stop winding people up

modric is crap, bentley should play in the centre, and huddlestone on the wing... ffs what's next, chimboda for a manager?

regarding bentley, i think he just doesn't cut it for a top team. he has no footballing intelligence at all.

I am just counter-arguing. This man has skills but he is used at the wrong position and asked to do the wrong thing.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

When viola, SS, BC and myself agree how bad he was, does that either prove he was shit or that the world's gone mad?

It's disgusting.

 

[StockSpur]

our dead ball play in general is shocking

 

[SpurSince57]

SS57 you have an opinion where he plays best for us and I'd bet that it was on the right of midfield. Harry didn't need to do it the other night Gio could have gone left for a much better balanced side....5 in the middle one up top

Yes, on the right. I can see the point of putting Lennon on the left, but not Bentley. I can see the point of playing Jenas on the left (and it's worked for England). However, the trouble with putting dos Santos out there is that it doesn't really suit him, either, at least according to the GDSFC. But a very strange decision by Harry doesn't excuse Bentley switching off his brain.

 

[BorisTM]

alright, you have to stop winding people up

modric is crap, bentley should play in the centre, and huddlestone on the wing... ffs what's next, chimboda for a manager?

regarding bentley, i think he just doesn't cut it for a top team. he has no footballing intelligence at all.

Bentley is one of the few who has scored a hat-trick to Man U, he was the first one to do it since the Premier league was created and what even better he did it when they were in top form.

Although first two goals were based on luck, his third was top quality. The goal he scored against Arsenal in the 4:4 game was .... absurd.

The only reason he can't cut it with us is just that - he is played out of position (one) and is asked to do shit he is not good at (two). In light of this use your brain for a moment and answer this - would Huddlestone be as good and as liked as he is now if he was played on the left wing, in his first game after a couple of months long injury and in a team full with debutants and reserves? I don't F think so.

And to use my spelling joker - who the hell is chimboda?

If you don't know how to spell the names of our current or ex-players and capitalize the first letter you shouldn't be talking to me.

Do you homework first then come and try to lecture me.

 

[alfiespurs]

Lay of David, the lad has just got back ! Well at the way Lennon is playing ... welcome back David !

 

[BorisTM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtWLLmI568

His second attempt from some 25-30 yards out, even further away from the goal than his shot on Tuesday, how selfish from him, he should have passed that one too. No skills whatsoever. I mean who the hell these days scissor-volleys the ball, this is old stuff they belong in the museums, the new skill fashion is to fall in the box in a way that the ref will give you a penalty without a second thought.

 

[Real_madyidd]

I think Harry was right, Bentley needed the match time. At least Harry played him in midfield. Remember Ramos playing him at right back? That was mental.

I have always believed Bentley is a superior footballer to Lennon, but they are both not looking too sharp right now. Hopefully the competition will be good for them.

 

[Little Squatman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtWLLmI568

His second attempt from some 25-30 yards out, even further away from the goal than his shot on Tuesday, how selfish from him, he should have passed that one too. No skills whatsoever. I mean who the hell these days scissor-volleys the ball, this is old stuff they belong in the museums, the new skill fashion is to fall in the box in a way that the ref will give you a penalty without a second thought.

Pretty sure you are on the wind up so I'm loath to respond to you, but I will anyway... Bentley gives the impression he is playing to impress rather than playing for the team. This may be because he isn't getting the chances he should, but the penny should have dropped by now. If you work for the team it will be appreciated and you will look good. Trying fancy flicks when the ball is cleared to you and we are under pressure is not helping the team. Several times he tried something and handed the ball back when we couldn't get hold of it. He's an experienced player but doesn't seem to use his head when he's playing. I don't give a sh*t that he used to play for Arsenal, but he flatters to deceive and plays with no intelligence, and at times its infuriating.

 

[nightgoat]

The crowd will never forgive him for unfortunately what was Ramos' ridiculously crap start to the season of which he was involved in.

Even though pretty much everyone else was exonerated... On the contrary, you'd think that for replacing our best striker since Klinsmann (first time), Pavlyuchenko would come in for a hell of a lot more flack than he actually does...

 

[BorisTM]

Several times he tried something and handed the ball back when we couldn't get hold of it. He's an experienced player but doesn't seem to use his head when he's playing.

I can excuse Bentley, because of the way he is asked to play on the wing - he has to pass his man and then deliver, well he doesn't have the speed and acceleration of Lennon and Bale so he has to dribble and make step overs to get some space. But he is not that good and if he gets double teamed he's done, and the thing with they way we play deep in our own against teams like Arsenal is that our CMs and strikers don't support the wingers after they receive the ball as they know it is of no use. Lennon and Bale are going to run straight forward and nobody will manage to keep up with them. So when Bentley gets double teamed he can't pass to anyone as there is nobody around - everyone is far away, and he cant run away as Lennon and Bale do so he is stuck dealing with two players and he either has to dribble through them or hold the ball until help arrives. I'm sure he could have done better but this was his first game after injury and he was not fit enough to play for full 90 mins let alone 120.

Another thing you have to consider about him, he is not a sprinter, someone like Bale and Lennon that can make a 60-70 yards run, then come back then a minute later make another one...my woman just came so I will finish later.