Adama Traore

[gibbospurs]

Can’t open any of the Twitter as I’m old. But is that a genuine play from Chelsea for Adama? Because if it’s our new rwb option I fucking hope so. The guy was blowing out of his arse after 2 forward runs last week. And he was a second half sub coming on. He hasn’t the stamina for a rwb. And he’s shit up top. How is he different to Watford letting Royal have the ball and do nothing with it? We can beat the teams that come to us. It’s the teams that dig in deep we can’t. He solves nothing in that department.

 

[gibbospurs]

He scared the shit out of our poor defence when we played last. We won 1-0. Against us? He has nothing but pace and a chipped in cross. Prodence is one We need to stick some money on. He’s a footballer. Not a bloody athlete with some football skills.

 

[olliec]

Did the same with Barkley, Willian and hazard. This is why I absolutely can’t stand Chelsea. They are just a horrible club and always fuck up our plans. You don’t see arsenal doing this as much. Think this is why I hate Chelsea more than arsenal.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Can’t open any of the Twitter as I’m old. But is that a genuine play from Chelsea for Adama? Because if it’s our new rwb option I fucking hope so. The guy was blowing out of his arse after 2 forward runs last week. And he was a second half sub coming on. He hasn’t the stamina for a rwb. And he’s shit up top. How is he different to Watford letting Royal have the ball and do nothing with it? We can beat the teams that come to us. It’s the teams that dig in deep we can’t. He solves nothing in that department.

The rumors that Paratici and Conte both really want him and have liked him for a while suggests they see something in him that Conte can use. He has something really different which I would imagine most coaches wouldn’t know how to get the best out of but I’d back Conte to be able to use him.

He definitely has the ability to cause chaos with his directness. I almost see him being even further forward as a rwb with less responsibility defensively especially once Romero is back on that side and we get better at winning the ball higher up the pitch. Conte would get him a lot fitter too.

At 20m it’s really not a huge risk even if it’s a Conte experiment.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Did the same with Barkley, Willian and hazard. This is why I absolutely can’t stand Chelsea. They are just a horrible club and always fuck up our plans. You don’t see arsenal doing this as much. Think this is why I hate Chelsea more than arsenal.

Remy too

 

[midge]

We just keep passing left to right and right to left. We got no one wanting to make a run and take on players.

The thing about Traore is he does not pass. Our teams problem is we lack penetration. With Traore we got one player that will not pass once he gets the ball, he will run with it .

Might help to open up defence for us . Gil tries to do something similar but he is too easily knock off the ball. Traore is not that easy to knock off the ball.

 

[DogsOfWar]

Anything around £20 million is decent value for a RWB that can attack space.
He can double up as a wide attacking player so we can bin off Steve along with Doherty if necessary to raise money.

 

[spids]

The guy was blowing out of his arse after 2 forward runs last week. And he was a second half sub coming on. He hasn’t the stamina for a rwb.

That would only take Conte 3 weeks to sort out.

 

[Real_madyidd]

Did the same with Barkley, Willian and hazard. This is why I absolutely can’t stand Chelsea. They are just a horrible club and always fuck up our plans. You don’t see arsenal doing this as much. Think this is why I hate Chelsea more than arsenal.

Hazard was being whored around the whole of Europe. We were about tenth in line. Man city thought they had him in the bag and Chelsea apparently "blew them out of the water" with the wages they offered. He was on more money than we have ever paid our players. I don't feel like we were ever in the running for him.

 

[Marty]

Hazard was being whored around the whole of Europe. We were about tenth in line. Man city thought they had him in the bag and Chelsea apparently "blew them out of the water" with the wages they offered. He was on more money than we have ever paid our players. I don't feel like we were ever in the running for him.

What is true about Hazard is that the only reason he went to Chelsea was because they won the CL final against Bayern when they hadn't qualified via the league. If they hadn't Hazard would've gone to a CL club and we were at the very least in the running, although City would probably have been more likely.

 

[Aphex]

That would only take Conte 3 weeks to sort out.

It’s not so simple. I’m no expert but pretty sure the bigger and more muscles you have, the more oxygen your cardio system requires to keep those muscles moving.

It’s why long distance runners are skinny as fuck and sprinters are muscled up and explosive. Look at how boxers stamina fades away when they are too heavy.

Traore at the size he is is never going to have the stamina to run up and down that flank all day, even 60 minutes will be a tough ask.

It’s a serious concern with Traore. The games I’ve seen him play for wolves, he is nowhere near the fitness required. He makes a run and then stands with his hands on his hips having a breather!

Pretty much every quality modern wing back in football is slender.

I’m sure the club must know what they are doing otherwise we wouldn’t be buying him. But then we signed Doherty and Ndombele so….you can’t always say the club knows what it’s doing.

 

[Spursberg]

It’s not so simple. I’m no expert but pretty sure the bigger and more muscles you have, the more oxygen your cardio system requires to keep those muscles moving.

It’s why long distance runners are skinny as fuck and sprinters are muscled up and explosive. Look at how boxers stamina fades away when they are too heavy.

Traore at the size he is is never going to have the stamina to run up and down that flank all day, even 60 minutes will be a tough ask.

It’s a serious concern with Traore. The games I’ve seen him play for wolves, he is nowhere near the fitness required. He makes a run and then stands with his hands on his hips having a breather!

Pretty much every quality modern wing back in football is slender.

I’m sure the club must know what they are doing otherwise we wouldn’t be buying him. But then we signed Doherty and Ndombele so….you can’t always say the club knows what it’s doing.

Kinda agree, it is worrying that we spent so much on Ndombele and obviously overlooked the fact that he is this bad without the ball and positioning.

i also do not see Traore as a wing back, only way i see it is in a 352 and he is left to "cheat" a bit on the backtracking with the central mid covering. Bit like Liverpool defend when Arnold and Robertson attack, thoug they still run like mad men :S

 

[Stoof]

It’s not so simple. I’m no expert but pretty sure the bigger and more muscles you have, the more oxygen your cardio system requires to keep those muscles moving.

It’s why long distance runners are skinny as fuck and sprinters are muscled up and explosive. Look at how boxers stamina fades away when they are too heavy.

Traore at the size he is is never going to have the stamina to run up and down that flank all day, even 60 minutes will be a tough ask.

It’s a serious concern with Traore. The games I’ve seen him play for wolves, he is nowhere near the fitness required. He makes a run and then stands with his hands on his hips having a breather!

Pretty much every quality modern wing back in football is slender.

I’m sure the club must know what they are doing otherwise we wouldn’t be buying him. But then we signed Doherty and Ndombele so….you can’t always say the club knows what it’s doing.

At the point of signing, both Doherty and Ndombele made complete sense.

It’s only on reflection that they’ve not worked out. So even then that’s not on the club, that’s just life.

 

[HildoSpur]

My only concern about this signing is do we have a shirt big enough?

 

[Fitchspur]

At the point of signing, both Doherty and Ndombele made complete sense.

It’s only on reflection that they’ve not worked out. So even then that’s not on the club, that’s just life.

This. I wish more people would remember this, that sometimes transfers just don’t work out (granted we’ve had a terrible run of them not working out…). The majority here were thrilled when we signed them.

 

[Aphex]

At the point of signing, both Doherty and Ndombele made complete sense.

It’s only on reflection that they’ve not worked out. So even then that’s not on the club, that’s just life.

This. I wish more people would remember this, that sometimes transfers just don’t work out (granted we’ve had a terrible run of them not working out…). The majority here were thrilled when we signed them.

I'm not sure. I agree with you that all signings are a risk, but we are talking about due diligence here. It was well known Ndombele had attitude problems, lazy and inconsistent.

Doherty, whoever scouted him surely could have seen how poor he is technically and physically. Or did they simply go off stats?

So I think there is no problem with questioning if we are doing our due diligence around Traore too with regards to his fitness. He's built like a boxer.

 

[spursfan77]

Can’t open any of the Twitter as I’m old. But is that a genuine play from Chelsea for Adama? Because if it’s our new rwb option I fucking hope so. The guy was blowing out of his arse after 2 forward runs last week. And he was a second half sub coming on. He hasn’t the stamina for a rwb. And he’s shit up top. How is he different to Watford letting Royal have the ball and do nothing with it? We can beat the teams that come to us. It’s the teams that dig in deep we can’t. He solves nothing in that department.

Agree. Plus in the forward positions he’s a huge huge downgrade on Son or Lucas.

Fingers crossed it doesnt go ahead and we actually solve the attacking and wide right positions by signing players who have actually success and are proven in both roles rather than just going for a player to make do.

Anyway, if it does happen, it won’t be until we sell Bergwijn as we don’t have any money!

 

[mil1lion]

It’s not so simple. I’m no expert but pretty sure the bigger and more muscles you have, the more oxygen your cardio system requires to keep those muscles moving.

It’s why long distance runners are skinny as fuck and sprinters are muscled up and explosive. Look at how boxers stamina fades away when they are too heavy.

Traore at the size he is is never going to have the stamina to run up and down that flank all day, even 60 minutes will be a tough ask.

It’s a serious concern with Traore. The games I’ve seen him play for wolves, he is nowhere near the fitness required. He makes a run and then stands with his hands on his hips having a breather!

Pretty much every quality modern wing back in football is slender.

I’m sure the club must know what they are doing otherwise we wouldn’t be buying him. But then we signed Doherty and Ndombele so….you can’t always say the club knows what it’s doing.

The comparison I would make with Traore at wing back would be Micah Richards who was quality for City. If he has the right mindset I'm sure we will get him into shape. I think we'll make him a bit leaner and focus on his endurance. He has some work to do and I hope people don't expect instant success with him. I would still favour Emerson from the start who has a great engine. Maybe the competition will make him better though. Meanwhile Traore will offer far more from the bench than Doherty and should be up to speed for next season.

 

[Aphex]

The comparison I would make with Traore at wing back would be Micah Richards who was quality for City. If he has the right mindset I'm sure we will get him into shape. I think we'll make him a bit leaner and focus on his endurance. He has some work to do and I hope people don't expect instant success with him. I would still favour Emerson from the start who has a great engine. Maybe the competition will make him better though. Meanwhile Traore will offer far more from the bench than Doherty and should be up to speed for next season.

Yeah fair points but Richards was a big strong lad but not built like Traore, who looks like a body builder. Not sure it's a like for like comparison.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I'm not sure. I agree with you that all signings are a risk, but we are talking about due diligence here. It was well known Ndombele had attitude problems, lazy and inconsistent.

Doherty, whoever scouted him surely could have seen how poor he is technically and physically. Or did they simply go off stats?

So I think there is no problem with questioning if we are doing our due diligence around Traore too with regards to his fitness. He's built like a boxer.

Maybe we did our due diligence but Poch and Mourinho pushed for their signings so the club backed them?

Everyday I come on here and people go mental about Levy interfering in signings. When he doesn’t, and actually backs his manager, we then get complaints about not doing ‘due diligence’. You’ve got to laugh.