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What makes no sense to me with this "stunt" is what could it possibly be that was so heinous we couldn't abide by it but that we would be willing to do business again this summer.

Timing, I assume. It was a last minute thing and it could have been too late to negotiate whatever it was
 

Spursmatty87

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Anyone else thinks that this shows how poor our recruitment was last summer that we wanted three playmakers but didn’t address the holding midfield problem or the rb problem.
 

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What makes no sense to me with this "stunt" is what could it possibly be that was so heinous we couldn't abide by it but that we would be willing to do business again this summer.

I'm probably taking a risk saying this but I always find it convenient that the information always stops short of mentioning what actually happened which is the exact thing that happened with Alderweireld where he supposedly disrespected the club and it's mother to the point where we were told he had to go only for him to be given a whopping new deal.
We were told exactly what happened with Alderweireld, weren't we? He wanted a big contract, Levy said no. Poch went to bat for him, pushing for the big contract, Levy agreed. VdV's contract at Liverpool got revealed, so Toby's agent/father reneged on the agreed contract and demanded more. Poch felt betrayed, he and Toby had a bust up. Poch would walk if Toby got a new contract. No contract for Toby. Poch gets sacked, Toby gets new contract.

I do agree that it's weird how it's taken a year for someone to say it was the agent's meddling that wiped the Dybala deal out, after everyone in the news, as well as at least several ITK, blaming on difficult image rights issues.
 

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Anyone else thinks that this shows how poor our recruitment was last summer that we wanted three playmakers but didn’t address the holding midfield problem or the rb problem.
Does it? Poch wanted Foyth as right back, Ndombele is different to Lo Celso and especially Dybala who could play alsoas striker or winger. We knew Eriksen was leaving and that was good recruitment
 

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Anyone else thinks that this shows how poor our recruitment was last summer that we wanted three playmakers but didn’t address the holding midfield problem or the rb problem.
I don't think it's down to the recruitment solely. A big part must be the arrogance of those high up within the club. They must have thought if we made a CL final we don't need much to add to the squad yet they overlooked the fact we lost 13 PL games in that league campaign. The club did show ambition with the spending but didn't address key areas like you mentioned in CDM or RB. At least now we seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach and identifying areas where we need fixed.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Ladies and gentlemen I give you

The latest winners of the ITK Thread 'oh fuck, why can't I see the ITK forums' award are, in no particular order
Lloris
Castange Toby Skriniar Davies
Moura Hojbjerg Lo Celso Son
Dybala Kane.

That team will win trophy’s!
and
Ignoring the homegrown issues, Valencia are having a fire sale, how about their LB Gaya. He's bloody excellent!

Both worthy winners i'm sure you'll agree. So lets have a big hand for our winners, yay!
 

razzmaster

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Ladies and gentlemen I give you

The latest winners of the ITK Thread 'oh fuck, why can't I see the ITK forums' award are, in no particular order
and

Both worthy winners i'm sure you'll agree. So lets have a big hand for our winners, yay!

Sadly they can't be here today to pick up their awards but I would like to thank their mums.
 

RJR1949

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D1 regarding Dybala

I can tell you this last summer a deal was done and I mean done , the player even prepared a leaving video for juve fans

the deal did not fall apart to naming rights but his agent pulling a last min stunt which we could not abide by

if juve are in financial trouble which bearing in mind Ronaldo and Ramsey’s wages alone I strongly suspect then stranger things have happened

unlike bale who we have never got close to because of wages we have here so I think we have some chance
Juve are certainly in deep financial trouble - they lost 50m Euros in the six months to the end of December 2019 i.e. before the effects of the epidemic. This was 58m Euros worse than the previous year.
 

Finchyid

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I don’t think you’ll need to worry ;-)

a good season for Dybala, a bad season for us and very quickly he is out of our league.

Dont agree, he was prepared to come us, i dont think our season will have impacted that much, we have lamela, lo celso, Gazza and foyth that all know him. I doubt a deal has legs but based on dragons info at least we can put levy not paying the image rights to bed
 

worcestersauce

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I'd assume we won't pay what we'd have done last year for Dybala and I know of no reason Juve would accept less so I guess the dragon was speaking retrospectively, shame though.
 

Col_M

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Dont forget Dybala was one of the first ballers to contract Covid. I wonder if that has had any impact on his fitness levels???
 

SpursSince1980

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Juve are certainly in deep financial trouble - they lost 50m Euros in the six months to the end of December 2019 i.e. before the effects of the epidemic. This was 58m Euros worse than the previous year.
And we are no better off either. So, as much as his agent might be trying to gee up interest via the press, I just can’t see us having the money to afford Dyabla. Sadly that ship sailed.
 
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