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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

Gingernut

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Jul 2, 2019
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As much as I respect your informed opinion if a new manager comes in and holds a different opinion to Mourinho on Winks and Dele surely it would be counter-intuitive to let them go. Contrary to popular narrative on here they are not bad players so I wouldn't be overly surprised if the new guy decides he wants to keep one if not both of them.
Winks, based on the last 2 years, isn't good enough either
 

Montalbano

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Jan 29, 2018
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I haven’t caught up on all the drama but had to share this as it speaks volume about our quality of play. This sequence would look out of character in the 4th division.

I don’t care who is in the dugout, we won’t be challenging for the title with our current crop of defenders.

 

Gingernut

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Jul 2, 2019
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Who is? Because if you listen to most fans on here everybody is shit apart from Kane, Son and Pier.
There are others how are but are not currently showing it.

For the Winks thread but....he hasn't been the same player since his injury in early 2019
 

Montalbano

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Jan 29, 2018
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He wouldn’t be lol
Correct. No matter how athletic, physical, and great at defending he is he will never be a great centre back as he has zero composure on the ball. In our shirt he consistently kills attacks and puts pressure on the defense with his turnovers. This weakness was less exposed in a back 3 next to Toby and Jan as he would never play the ball forward — rather only making short adjacent passes to our centre backs & fullbacks and giving them forward distribution responsibility. In a back 4, his poor composure and inept passing ability has been exposed. He’s best when he just boots the ball into the stands.

José discussed how they targeted him in the EL Final when he was at Ajax — this is no different to the game plan of every side we play. He’s not an elite centre back and should not be playing for a team with Premier League title aspirations.

A must sell this summer in our defensive rebuild.
 

WannaDanceWithUdogie

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May 17, 2019
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Correct. No matter how athletic, physical, and great at defending he is he will never be a great centre back as he has zero composure on the ball. In our shirt he consistently kills attacks and puts pressure on the defense with his turnovers. This weakness was less exposed in a back 3 next to Toby and Jan as he would never play the ball forward — rather only making short adjacent passes to our centre backs & fullbacks and giving them forward distribution responsibility. In a back 4, his poor composure and inept passing ability has been exposed. He’s best when he just boots the ball into the stands.

José discussed how they targeted him in the EL Final when he was at Ajax — this is no different to the game plan of every side we play. He’s not an elite centre back and should not be playing for a team with Premier League title aspirations.

A must sell this summer in our defensive rebuild.
Depends if the new manager fancies him.
 

Bubble44

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Jan 28, 2011
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Ali Z in agreement with Trix's post about a starting 11 being difficult to fill with players supporting Jose
This would not Shock me in the slightest and there in lies the biggest Issue, it's not 1 or 2 that are disillusioned with him, can imagine the Training ground is quiet toxic atm.
 

Montalbano

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Jan 29, 2018
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Depends if the new manager fancies him.
If a new manager is aiming to maintain a midtable dog fight, he’ll certainly fancy Sanchez.

Dier = severe concentration issues
Sanchez = severe lack of technical ability

Neither should be here next season. Shame there are issues with Toby at the moment because him and Rodon are quite clearly the best centre backs at the club.
 
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SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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what a well thought out, rational post. not in the slightest over the top & ridiculous.
Ok. Nice to meet you. Normally I don’t care about snarky pot shots. And I try hard to be respectful. However, I’m in a shit mood today. And have zero tolerance for this type of fuckery. Go thru my posts, and u will likely see that I try to not be vitriolic. Or, just an ass in general. But for you, I’ll be willing to make an exception moving forward. Not a joke. Not sarcastic. Not ridiculous. Maybe over the top. Not rational. But... it will be very well thought through.

Matthew...
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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If a new manager is aiming to maintain a midtable dog fight, they’ll certainly fancy Sanchez.

Dier = severe concentration issues
Sanchez = severe lack of technical ability

Neither should be here next season. Shame there are issues with Toby at the moment because him and Rodon are quite clearly the best centre backs at the club.


Whatever the 'issues' with Alderweireld, if he's the best option for the club he should be on the pitch. Why the fuck does Mourinho always have to be falling out with someone? It's OK when you have a squad overflowing with talent, but that's not us.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Ali Z in agreement with Trix's post about a starting 11 being difficult to fill with players supporting Jose
This would not Shock me in the slightest and there in lies the biggest Issue, it's not 1 or 2 that are disillusioned with him, can imagine the Training ground is quiet toxic atm.
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Montalbano

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Jan 29, 2018
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Whatever the 'issues' with Alderweireld, if he's the best option for the club he should be on the pitch. Why the fuck does Mourinho always have to be falling out with someone? It's OK when you have a squad overflowing with talent, but that's not us.
I don’t disagree. I’ve been one of Mourinho’s strongest advocates but if we’re not fielding our best XI in a time we desperately need points due to a personal vendetta against a player/players (assuming they’ve actually done nothing wrong) he should be sacked or reprimanded.
 

spurs mental

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Don’t see the problem or what is not ‘fair’ about being curious about why someone would have an opinion. That’s how discussions progress. Otherwise it’s just people telling each other they have opinions. Which is about 99% of this thread.

You questioned why I or someone else would bother watching at all based on my opinion. Maybe fair was the wrong word to use.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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I haven’t caught up on all the drama but had to share this as it speaks volume about our quality of play. This sequence would look out of character in the 4th division.

I don’t care who is in the dugout, we won’t be challenging for the title with our current crop of defenders.


I'm still cutting Tanganga slack. Bad passes can happen and he had very limited options in this scenario so trying to chip it over the attacker wasn't the worst option.

Sanchez though, zero composure, zero thought of the consequences.

Why isn't he trying to just clip it down the line? Why is he trying to smash it like a Sunday league punt?

We desperately need a cool defender who doesn't panic and a CM who is happy to receive the ball under pressure.
 

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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Hardly anyone is saying that, what a ridiculous assumption. I have just seen nothing from Mourinho in his spell here to suggest he deserves to be the man in charge of this clearly necessary rebuild. In fact I've seen a lto mor evidence to prove that everything said about his failures at Utd was accurate.

I would feel far more comfortable having an up and coming coach overseeing this rebuild than a confrontational manager that is clearly on the decline.
Jesus bloody wept. And seriously, you are calling that a ridiculous statement? You can’t parse sarcasm or being facetious? Have you read this thread since Dec? Go back. There are tons of posts about firing him. And up until two months ago, the players and exec management were not on the naughty step. Read my post again. Read all of posts before throwing a turd at me.

And don’t retort with another mocking comment without reading and understanding the full context of my pessimistic views, repeatedly saying the sky is fucking falling, the manager is merely one problem. So, sweet prince... don’t be alarmed. I’m not disagreeing with your desire to get a new coach. I just feel like the whole village is on fire, and killing the chieftain won’t stop the flames from consuming all in its path.

Sorry, but just not in the mood.
 

Seafordian Spurs

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Aug 20, 2013
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In all seriousness it is very sad it's obviously coming to an end.

Both parties (us, him) had so much to gain from this being successful.

A real shame.
 

Montalbano

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I'm still cutting Tanganga slack. Bad passes can happen and he had very limited options in this scenario so trying to chip it over the attacker wasn't the worst option.

Sanchez though, zero composure, zero thought of the consequences.

Why isn't he trying to just clip it down the line? Why is he trying to smash it like a Sunday league punt?

We desperately need a cool defender who doesn't panic and a CM who is happy to receive the ball under pressure.
There is no excuse. Sunday league play from Sanchez. And it happened for the entire 90+ minutes. Newcastle wasn’t creating their own chances, they were feeding on Sanchez’s mistakes all match.

His performance can almost unanimously be to blame for us dropping points. Next in line is Mourinho for not subbing him off, but when your alternative option at centre back is Eric Dier (who brings a different type of concern onto the pitch) you can understand why he didn’t.
 
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