Jose Mourinho

danielneeds · Jul 9, 2020

überghost said:
If he came to the cub and though that the squad had good potential he was a bad judge of talent and ability. If he still stand by this, would we have that kind of coach at our club?

If he came to the club and thought the squad had good potential, but experienced that the quality was poor - why has he not made the adjustments and changes required - given that he's a world class manager?

All I wan't to see i progress. The recent matches shows regress.
Worrying.

I think there is talent and ability in this squad, even though it is hugely imbalanced and full of dross too.

What the players need is a vision, something to buy into, journey to go on. At the moment no-one is playing like they have any love or joy in what they’re doing.

I can’t stand Jose’s football and have been firmly anti-his appointment from the start, but can anyone tell me what he’s done in 9 months here that Allardyce, Pulis, or Dyche couldn’t have done? Tighten up at the back, but without and semblance of a pattern of play or style. It’s a joke.

SpartanSpur · Jul 9, 2020

spursfan77 said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if he walked in the summer. The rebuilding job is huge. We virtually need a whole new squad and have owners that won’t pay for one.

Neville said when it happened that Levy and Mourinho was a marriage of convenience and expected the contract to be full of clauses.

I hope he was right.

nedley · Jul 9, 2020

So any post match quotes?

Metalhead · Jul 9, 2020

agrdavidsfan said:
It’s painful I don’t want to blame him but only him we can really blame for the game plan and we don’t seem to have one?

I just think he’s not a Tottenham manager sadly we aren’t about being stable and winning 1-0 he seems to be relying on individual brilliance at the moment instead of a plan in fact our players look over coached they all seem to be scared to Break the tactics.

our club is famous for playing attacking football we may not win many things and we may have a few games where we get smashed a season but.....that’s what spurs is about and sadly our fans will not tolerate this kind of football no matter how much success it brings us if it ever does.

So for that reason alone I hope we have a break clause at the end of the season it’s obvious it’s not going to work there’s to many problems and to many issues and I do not trust him to rebuild the squad in fact it would probably lead to a similar situation we had under hoddle? Where we had a lot of older mercenaries like your poyet’s,sherwoods,ferdinands.

the players he will sign will also fit his tactics of boredom and eventually as a fan base we will get sick of that so it’s just better to stop it now.

Before it costs even more to rebuild

We should look at

1) Nagelsman
2) Graham Potter
3) Tuchel
4) Rodgers
5) Nuno Espirito
6) Robert Martinez
7) Ten Haag

Forget number 1 with our budget or 4 or 5. Why would they leave where they are?

kaz Hirai · Jul 9, 2020

All this talk about a terrible squad

I read on this very site when poch was under pressure that the squad was the third best behind pool and City.

Most of you said poch had lost the dressing Room, he was just a motivator who could no longer motivate, no ability for tactics.

That any decent manager would have this group flying!

What happened??

Albertbarich · Jul 9, 2020

Do people think its just the tactics or have the players out faith and stopped turning up?

They don't look a happy squad at all.

überghost · Jul 9, 2020

I get that Levy is to blame as much (and probably more) than anyone else. But managing a team uncapabale of getting a single shot on goal against a Bournemouth team that has had no clean sheets in the PL since november is not a directors fault. Yes, there is much to be learned when it comes to the total managing of a football club - ownership, business modell and leadership, but I can't see how this is applicable to this evenings shitshow. This is down to the manager. Even a club owned by Idar Vollvik (feel free to google) should be beating Bournemouth with this squad.

Haddock · Jul 9, 2020

Our best players have regressed massively and the players we have bought have either failed to deliver or are still getting accustomed to the league. That's it in a nut shell.

Maybe another manager would get better results, maybe not. I'd say that the biggest mistake Levy made was giving Mourinho a three year contract. If we had an interim manager at least we could have weighed our options right now.

Because there's no doubt in my mind: Levy won't sack Mourinho before next season.

LSUY · Jul 9, 2020

ItsBoris said:
It should have been obvious when we brought Mourinho in what he would do. He's a defense-first manager. Other than the Sheffield game, we haven't conceded any goals in open play since the restart. That is certainly a positive. The negative is we can't attack for shit. Get Willian, Milik, Holjberg, and Castagne and I think it'll be different.

The simple answer is we need some players who aren't absolute dogshit. I'm sorry but Lamela is absolutely no different than he was under Poch, Sherwood, and AVB. It's not the manager. Ditto for Aurier and Sissoko - shocking players.

I will say the system doesn't get the best out of Kane as he's not the fastest player and can't really be as effective on the counterattack as he is if we play a higher press.

You say it's not the manager but then go on to say the system we're using doesn't get the best out of Kane. Surely the manager should be playing a system that gets the best out of his only world-class player?

synththfc · Jul 9, 2020

I'm going to give him the summer window before I call for his head, but it isn't looking great. I've said previously that he doesn't seem to be the same manager who can work on a budget, so if we're not gonna back him we might as well cut our losses + start over.

ItsBoris · Jul 9, 2020

ClintEastwould said:
The price to pay for sacking him pales in comparison to the hundreds of millions that we’ll lose if he sticks that final dagger into this squads heart. I said it before when we sucked under Poch and I’ll say it again. This is a talented squad. They were disillusioned under Poch and he admittedly had to go but Jose will wring every last ounce from this squad.

Not really. If they were, it wouldn't really matter who the manager is.

ljinko888 · Jul 9, 2020

It's incredible how we went from one of the best teams to watch and league top scorers to one of the worst. Our attack is pretty much the same as 2016/17. Heck it's probably better on paper because our back ups then were Janssen and N'Koudou. Now we have Moura, Bergwijn and Lo Celso to go with Kane, Son, Alli and Lamela.

The days when Pep and Klopp were hyping us up seem a lifetime ago. No one looks at us anymore and thinks "there's something good happening there".

cjbyid · Jul 9, 2020

nedley said:
So any post match quotes?

Apparently no presser at all. "Connection issues"

ClintEastwould · Jul 9, 2020

Archibald&Crooks said:
I know people are upset but there's no need to be a prick about it.

People were out here calling Poch a loser and making fun of him for crying trying to defend Jose. I think people are entitled to be a little angry.

tommo84 · Jul 9, 2020

Albertbarich said:
Do people think its just the tactics or have the players out faith and stopped turning up?

Think our best hope is for a few players, including Kane, to make their disillusionment and discontent known to Levy and he’s left with a choice to make. Otherwise Levy let’s this drift for another 6 months and the damage becomes irreparable.
They don't look a happy squad at all.

spursfan77 · Jul 9, 2020

SpartanSpur said:
Neville said when it happened that Levy and Mourinho was a marriage of convenience and expected the contract to be full of clauses.

I hope he was right.

Ive said the same all along. A non CL qualification break clause.

rossdapep · Jul 9, 2020

ItsBoris said:
It should have been obvious when we brought Mourinho in what he would do. He's a defense-first manager. Other than the Sheffield game, we haven't conceded any goals in open play since the restart. That is certainly a positive. The negative is we can't attack for shit. Get Willian, Milik, Holjberg, and Castagne and I think it'll be different.

The simple answer is we need some players who aren't absolute dogshit. I'm sorry but Lamela is absolutely no different than he was under Poch, Sherwood, and AVB. It's not the manager. Ditto for Aurier and Sissoko - shocking players.

I will say the system doesn't get the best out of Kane as he's not the fastest player and can't really be as effective on the counterattack as he is if we play a higher press.

Think Willian would make a difference but I did see how Milik will make this team better.

Levy is supposedly wanting Eze, great, I'm glad he wants young players. But once again, it makes no sense to sign up young players if Jose ain't gunna trust them.

If you want to Hoover up young talent, go get Nagelsmann or Hassenhuttl or Nuno. Jose wants and needs big characters for this team, we won't do that. And it's becoming apparent every game that we really lack players with a mental edge.

We can't afford those types because they usually come with a high salary or age risk or hefty transfer fee.

Let's be honest. Levy played the cheap card. 15m a year for a coach who'll get these players winning again therefore he doesn't need to spend more on a rebuild.

Except Poch was right (although not totally blameless) and some of these players are just getting on the way.

Amo · Jul 9, 2020

kaz Hirai said:
All this talk about a terrible squad
I read on this very site when poch was under pressure that the squad was the third best behind pool and Chelsea.
Most of you said poch had lost the dressing Room, he was just a motivator who could no longer motivate, no ability for tactics.
That any decent manager would have this group flying!

What happened??

Mourinho.

ItsBoris · Jul 9, 2020

L.S.U.Yiddo said:
You say it's not the manager but then go on to say the system we're using doesn't get the best out of Kane. Surely the manager should be playing a system that gets the best out of his only world-class player?

It's a trade off though. If we play a high press/high defensive line then we get the worst out of our defenders. I'm not sure how that would have worked against Bournemouth but we might have lost even if Kane got a goal, if we set our defense up in a way that would let Bournemouth have plenty of space behind us.

fishhhandaricecake · Jul 9, 2020

nedley said:
Its an exceptional point.

It really is. The stick Jose and the team would now be getting would be insane

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