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Tottenham Vs Man City: Match Thread

teok

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Completely agree, if we finish the season with the best or second best defence in the league, we'll finish top 4 no doubt. The purchase of new defenders over the summer is already proving to be astute.

On a separate note. Mangala and Otamendi cost City over £60m. Dier was £7m and Alderweireld a reported £11.4m. I know who got the better deals...

Alli - £5mill. Dier - £4mill.

Toure -£24 mill. Fernandinho - £34 mill.
 

peteblue

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Excellent performance. I thought Lamela and Dier were particularly good. I really cannot fault our display. People will say City had players missing but so did we, so boo hoo to that. Also If the goals were offside why did the Ref and and his assistants not flag it up ? Just a great day all round. Apart from England losing the Rugby that is !
 

chrissivad

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Can I remind people that our first goal was not offside, Walker was offside in the previous phase of play but the keeper saved it at which point it did not come out to Dier, despite what a pundit said last night, it came out to a Man City player with all the time and space in the world.
This player could have run it out or knocked it off or passed back to hos keeper to kick out or passed it to his colleague to his left, but instead, under no pressure he rolled it nicely into the path of Eric Dier and that is the only relevant fact.

Walker should have been called for offside, stopping the second phase. So while the goal might not be technically offside, it shouldnt have stood.

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Archibald&Crooks

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When we don't feel it is a one off and happens on a more consistent basis perhaps?
Nah. If that ever happened the complaints would just shift. Why wasn't 5-0 actually 6-0? Or yes, we won 8-1 but the defending was woeful. Errr, yeah OK we won the title but we lost two games….fair do's we won the treble but i'm not convinced by Poch or the best of the lot, winning away at Barca is one thing but can they do it on a cold evening in Stoke?

:D
 

Dharmabum

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Fair enough - but as a supporter we live for the good moments. If you can't Get a high from yesterdays performance when will you?

Of course one should be on a high after such a game.... but at the same time keep being level headed and not expect such performances in game after game - and, in case of a "disappointing" game result wise, one shouldn't go a low as one was high.
Spurs were the better team, and that vs a team that normally scores at will and tear the Spurs defense apart...but Spurs were also the better team vs. Arsenal a few days before and Poch was labelled "this and that".
Both performances were solid IMO - the defense defended as a solid unit while there was a game plan when attacking. In one game the ref and ball "favoured" Spurs while in the other game the ball did not "favour" Spurs
 

danielneeds

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Great result, what could be a season defining result, but we've got to build on it. Last year after the Chelsea result, we threw away a winning position at Palace, then after Arsenal result we conceded a late goal to lose away to Liverpool, taking away all the momentum we built up.This time we need to come away from Monaco with a point, and then go to a horribly out or sorts Swansea and bring home all three points, especially as a lot of out rivals are playing each other.
 

worcestersauce

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Walker should have been called for offside, stopping the second phase. So while the goal might not be technically offside, it shouldnt have stood.

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So if Walker was offside the keeper saved it cleared it to the half way line de Bruyne got it in our half Dier dispossessed him ran forward beat a defender shot and scored should that stand?
The danger was over Man City had possession comfortably, what they then decide to do with it is completely under their control, basically Dier scored because the City player gave him the ball not because Walker was previously offside, you have to draw a line somewhere.
 
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Bulletspur

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I just re watched the whole game and I must say, despite any future losses or drawers when we should have won, we should be very positive about the immediate future. We have a very young, hungry and talented squad who seem to enjoy playing for one another. We have a manager whose philosophy even I questioned, coming to fruition the past few games. If we as Spurs faithful can get behind both the team and Manager, breaking into the top 4 won't necesarily be a piped dream.
 

Bulletspur

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So if Walker was offside the keeper saved it cleared it to the half way line de Bruyne got it in our half Dier dispossessed him ran forward beat a defender shot and scored should that stand?
So if Walker was offside the keeper saved it cleared it to the half way line de Bruyne got it, ran beat Davies and Lloris and scores, I am sure that goal would stand! Therefore so should Diers!
 

scat1620

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So if Walker was offside the keeper saved it cleared it to the half way line de Bruyne got it in our half Dier dispossessed him ran forward beat a defender shot and scored should that stand?
Blimey, worcester, you're going down the pedant's road here. The events that led to the Dier goal should've been called off-side as Walker received the ball and Man City should've had an indirect freekick. We got the rub of the green and we're happy with it. What else is there to say?
 

Hazelton

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Those GIFs really show why Lloris is captain. You don't need to be loud, just supportive.
 

peter_the_yid

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Just noticed we are the only team in the leauge to have not lost in our last 5 games. Title race is no doubt on, remortage your homes and get down the bookies lads.
 

chrissivad

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So if Walker was offside the keeper saved it cleared it to the half way line de Bruyne got it in our half Dier dispossessed him ran forward beat a defender shot and scored should that stand?
The danger was over Man City had possession comfortably, what they then decide to do with it is completely under their control, basically Dier scored because the City player gave him the ball not because Walker was previously offside, you have to draw a line somewhere.

Its not a if Walker was offside.

Walker was offside... no question about it. By the letter of the law he is offside and it should have been a freekick to City.
The linesman fucked up and we got lucky that (somehow) he didnt flag it.

I also disagree that they had possetion 'comfortably'. Keeper saves, ball bounces to a city player who passes the ball forward to noone.
 

davidmatzdorf

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What happened when Son shot, Caballero saved and De Bruyne passed badly is all irrelevant, as is any speculation about what might have happened if De Bruyne had passed accurately.

The point is that linesman should have raised the flag the moment Walker touched the ball and then none of the other events would have happened. Our goal itself was not "offside", but Son and Dier should never have had the chance to shoot, because the whistle should have gone beforehand.

It's football. Shit happens. Sometimes it happens to us (Balotelli and Parker's head) and sometimes it happens in our favour.
 
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