Tottenham Vs Aston Villa: Match Thread

[Archibald&Crooks]

Janssen wasn't as bad as they are making out, it's just that he was trying make an impact without anyone on who can give him the service he needs which is the ball infront of him for him to come on to. Just like Soldado, we have bought a player capable of scoring a lot of goals and failing to give them the service they need

What I saw was at about the point that the disjointed performance brought about by the wholseale changes everyone was calling for bit, the scapegoat for it was Janssen. I don't think he played that well and was no worse than some but we need to get him staying in the middle a lot more than he does.

 

[millsey]

Based on that performance Janssen should have lost his spot on the bench permanently to GKN. As it stands, Son and Alli are much, much better options than Janssen up front. Frustratingly, an able deputy to Kane is at the top of our priorities again in the transfer market and yet i fully expect us to sign nobody this month.

Son is a more than able back up to Kane for the rest of the season

 

[Hercules]

All the time in the world for GKN, but no time for Janssen. For any arse licker Janssen fan; do one!...

Spam, 'WTF' me, etc, as much as you like. If you have the credence to step back and look at the bigger picture, you would not be so spontaneous

 

[Ionman34]

I thought he had what it took at first: work rate,hold up play, finishing ability, but I'm losing faith fast. He's just too slow for English football, unfortunately.

It's not his pace that is the problem, it's his positioning or, more to the point, his movement into scoring positions. Shearer and Dublin called it spot on, as you would expect, that he is moving into the wrong areas and expending energy fruitlessly.

This is a coaching problem. VJ needs to spend some time with someone like Shearer, drilling the correct movement into him until it becomes second nature.

The boys attitude and willingness to work hard can't be faulted. You'll see in changing rooms all around the country, success is 70% attitude and 30% ability. He has the attitude but his drought is affecting his confidence.

For his attitude alone I think he's worth persevering with, but he needs a good striking coach to improve his decision making and movement, then I reckon we'll see what Janssen can bring to the table.

 

[spursfan77]

If Son had played Janssen in during the first half then it might be a different story. It was the only time he wasn't being marked by 3 players.

Today he was trying to do too much and trying too hard when he had the ball so I suspect he's losing confidence rapidly.

I'm not going to pile into him like some might, he's definitely struggling and I'm very concerned.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Spam, 'WTF' me, etc, as much as you like. If you have the credence to step back and look at the bigger picture, you would not be so spontaneous

Is this bigger picture to include the wholesale writing off of Sissoko and how that went?

You'd think after that shining example of the expertise on here, people wouldn't be so hasty.

 

[JimmyG2]

Won it. deserved it:
Dreary.except when we went up a gear at the end.
Harry 2 played well
Dele and GNK made a difference
but players rested.All is well.
Not sure why Villa made the trip.
GNK and CCV took their chance. Janssen did not.

 

[spurs9]

You're yet to name a player.

Having given it some thought, if we continue with 3 CBS, I would like to see us keep Davies as a CB option (he does well for Wales in thar role) and bring in a young prospect for LB that adds something to our forward play. (Sessegnon is a player who has impressed me in the few times I have seen him).

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Spam, 'WTF' me, etc, as much as you like. If you have the credence to step back and look at the bigger picture, you would not be so spontaneous

Do you know what "credence" and "spontaneous" mean?

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Janssen wasn't as bad as they are making out, it's just that he was trying make an impact without anyone on who can give him the service he needs which is the ball infront of him for him to come on to. Just like Soldado, we have bought a player capable of scoring a lot of goals and failing to give them the service they need

It's far simpler to replace him than find three more players who can feed him.

He's worse than Soldado and thats an undeniable fact. Poch more or less finished Janssen's career at Spurs today.

There can be little doubt in any Spurs fans mind that we have wasted a lot of money on a good player who simply can't cut it at PL level.

Janssen, Paulinho, and Soldado can all be considered busted flushes. At some point the club has to consider cutting their loss

We simply cannot carry on depending on Harry in every PL and EL game to carry the attack. We have no alternative, and todays game proved that.

 

[shelfboy68]

It's far simpler to replace him than find three more players who can feed him.

He's worse than Soldado and thats an undeniable fact. Poch more or less finished Janssen's career at Spurs today.

There can be little doubt in any Spurs fans mind that we have wasted a lot of money on a good player who simply can't cut it at PL level.

Janssen, Paulinho, and Soldado can all be considered busted flushes. At some point the club has to cinsider cutting their loss

We simply cannot carry on depending on Harry in every PL and EL game to carry the attack. We have no alternative, and todays game proved that.

Agree it doesn't look good for him right now but at the same time can you see us buying anyone in January as I can't.

 

[DJS]

Poch picked the right team aside from Davies at left wing back (I'd have started Ndoukou even if a right footed left winger) with Davies on left side of 3 man defense.

Nice to see 3-5-2 continued and also Son and Janssen picked up top - yes Janssen didn't do too well again but he's. Wing given a fair chance.

And we won the game whilst resting a lot of players so happy days!

 

[tiger666]

*my opinion* and thats an undeniable fact.

Love posts like this.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

It's not his pace that is the problem, it's his positioning or, more to the point, his movement into scoring positions. Shearer and Dublin called it spot on, as you would expect, that he is moving into the wrong areas and expending energy fruitlessly.

This is a coaching problem. VJ needs to spend some time with someone like Shearer, drilling the correct movement into him until it becomes second nature.

The boys attitude and willingness to work hard can't be faulted. You'll see in changing rooms all around the country, success is 70% attitude and 30% ability. He has the attitude but his drought is affecting his confidence.

For his attitude alone I think he's worth persevering with, but he needs a good striking coach to improve his decision making and movement, then I reckon we'll see what Janssen can bring to the table.

If he needs Shearer and or a good finishing coach then why the hell did we spend almost twenty million on him?

He's as likely to improve as Soldado did. Giving new players time is all well and good, but i haven't seen any improvement in his game whatsoever and if Poch can't coach him then i can't see someone like Shearer or any other striker coaching guru doing it either.

 

[Hercules]

Is this bigger picture to include the wholesale writing off of Sissoko and how that went?

You'd think after that shining example of the expertise on here, people wouldn't be so hasty.

Sissoko, I have always said needs time, as I did (though against) Janssen, supported him. I honestly try to tell it as is, after given time. I see nothing wrong with that.

 

[tiger666]

Sissoko, I have always said needs time,

Is that when you were posting shit like this?

"The guy is absolute shyte. Give him a chance? Yeh, right."

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Agree it doesn't look good for him right now but at the same time can you see us buying anyone in January as I can't.

Me neither, history would suggest that January is the wrong time to buy. That said you never know what Poch and Levy may be thinking after today.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Love posts like this.

Thanks for your time responding, but thats just my opinion...

 

[Hercules]

Is that when you were posting shit like this?

"The guy is absolute shyte. Give him a chance? Yeh, right."

Go back to the subject at the time. He was absolute shyte! When we signed him I supported him; and still do. But if he plays shit I will say so. Don't pull out one line quotes that are taken out of context.

 

[Grey Fox]

Scraped that. I for one really want us to win some silver ware and would rather see fewer changes in the starting line up, say 3 or 4 , get the game won then rest key players. Thought Winks and Sissoko were the bees knees to day and Nocando made a real difference when he came on, would love to see him get some more game time especially in the last 30 mins of games

People really need to lay off Janssen, he's played the equivalent of 10 full games in bits and pieces., he neesd some decent service and a few games of 70 mins + to get his mojo. I would love to see him play alongside Kane and Deli more often and if that happened I think we would see a different player. There is some real shit said on here sometime and an obsession with targeting particular players as scapegoats, as far as I am concerned as long as they are trying and put in effort in a Spurs shirt I will given them my support.

Would love Fulham away in the next round, my second team who are playing some good football at the moment and we usually get a good allocation of tickets.

Finally respect to those fans who went today with the tube strike going on. I had tickets but couldn't go because it would have taken me several hours to get home if at all.