Poll: Time for Poch or Time up for Poch? How Much More Time Should He Get?

[Mr Pink]

According to some on here, we're going to have a massive clear-out if he stays, so what's the difference?

The difference is quite obvious. If he sticks with Pochettino he's accepting that other things are also responsible for our current demise. In other words if we make some changes to the playing staff and keep Pochettino, crucially, his judgement should have more sway, or what's the point?

Getting rid of Pochettino and bringing in someone else, as of now, is putting it all on the manager's door step - which isn't right after just three months no matter how you spin it. Especially when you consider Liverpool, Everton and Arsenal are struggling to - all managers who arn't in their first season either.

To dismiss him this early would be a joke and another damning indictment that we're demanding instant success and ignoring the problem areas that undermine the very managers we employ.

 

[SpurSince57]

The difference is quite obvious. If he sticks with Pochettino he's accepting that other things are also responsible for our current demise. In other words if we make some changes to the playing staff and keep Pochettino, crucially, his judgement should have more sway, or what's the point?

Getting rid of Pochettino and bringing in someone else, as of now, is putting it all on the manager's door step - which isn't right after just three months no matter how you spin it. Especially when you consider Liverpool, Everton and Arsenal are struggling to - all managers who arn't in their first season either.

To dismiss him this early would be a joke and another damning indictment that we're demanding instant success and ignoring the problem areas that undermine the very managers we employ.

It would be a damning indictment of Levy's ability to pick a manager, that's for sure.

 

[Mr Pink]

It would be a damning indictment of Levy's ability to pick a manager, that's for sure.

Its not his picking of the managers though. Its the stage he's providing them which is the problem. The one true constant.

 

[Mullers]

Providing we are making progress I will give him until end of the next season. Barring a relegation fight there is no point kicking him out now and bringing hoddle as caretaker.

 

[tototoner]

To those who have voted "End of next season" I pose to you this question: So you'd be happy if we finished 17th this season and next? Where do you draw the line?

If we see no progress no but we will not finish below 10th this season or next.

What is the point in changing the manager again and starting another 5 year plan in 12 months time, seems Levy and a lot of fans want a 5 year plan every 18 months, I don't.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

2034 when he retires from management having led us to his and our 3rd Quadruple

 

[tototoner]

Its not his picking of the managers though. Its the stage he's providing them which is the problem. The one true constant.

exactly, what manager who has been there and done it with the trophies to show for it would work under Levy

Answer - none

We have a young and talented ( hasn' shown it with us yet granted ) manager now and need to support him or the neverending cycle begins agan

 

[Gassin's finest]

I'm probably just repeating what many have already said, but we need to see how he performs in the transfer window, and how the performances change after that. His response in the coming weeks over the Christmas schedule will be telling as well. As long as we don't get into serious danger of relegation, I'm prepared to give him time to sort the squad and the performances out. But if there is... then we have to act.

And I agree with whoever said that if that happens, then Levy has to take responsibility for the appointment and step down.

 

[SpurSince57]

Its not his picking of the managers though. Its the stage he's providing for them which is the problem. The one true constant.

Really? You actually think hiring someone with as scanty a track record as Pochettino was good judgement?

 

[SpurSince57]

exactly, what manager who has been there and done it with the trophies to show for it would work under Levy

Answer - none

We have a young and talented ( hasn' shown it with us yet granted ) manaer now and need to support him or the neverending cycle begins agan

Ramos? Villas-Boas?

Who says? His mum?

 

[Mr Pink]

I'm probably just repeating what many have already said, but we need to see how he performs in the transfer window, and how the performances change after that. His response in the coming weeks over the Christmas schedule will be telling as well. As long as we don't get into serious danger of relegation, I'm prepared to give him time to sort the squad and the performances out. But if there is... then we have to act.

And I agree with whoever said that if that happens, then Levy has to take responsibility for the appointment and step down.

Surely that's one of our biggest problems. Its quite clear that our transfer strategy isn't that simple unfortunately.

 

[Main Man]

I can't believe what I am reading.

People are seriously willing to accept this for two seasons?

Yet we all had a paddy when we had a couple of big defeats under AVB (off teams that are still beating us by similar scorelines, and will continue to do so) and saw him off.

Sherwood, despite talking absolute tripe half the time did a pretty decent job yet we saw him off too.

But now we are willing to give a manger, who has shown far, far less than our previous two managers time to prove himself until the end of next season.

Spurs fans never cease to amaze me.

 

[Mr Pink]

Really? You actually think hiring someone with as scanty a track record as Pochettino was good judgement?

I don't think there would be too many proven, successful types getting in line to work under Levy now.

Even Rodgers, with his limited success at the time, has intimated this.

 

[SpursManChris]

If we see no progress no but we will not finish below 10th this season or next.

What is the point in changing the manager again and starting another 5 year plan in 12 months time, seems Levy and a lot of fans want a 5 year plan every 18 months, I don't.

What about if we finish 10th and by this time next season we have lost 3 nil at home to a very average Liverpool team, loose at home to Newcastle, West Brom and Stoke (and I'm sure we'll loose many more games at home to come) and then finish 10th, then Poch somehow survives, then the next season we repeat that same sort of pattern all over again and finish 10th again?

 

[mpickard2087]

Its all well and good saying that he should be backed regardless, and that Levy gives him the world, but any manager needs to demonstrate enough evidence that they deserve it and Poch does have to take some responsibility for the slow start. Tactically, by and large, I am not impressed at all so far and he's causing some of the problems himself. Going into the second half of the season I'm expecting to see improvement and that he adapted and worked out how to get something out of the group that he does have.

 

[SpurSince57]

I don't think there would be too many proven, successful types getting in line to work under Levy.

Even Rodgers, with his limited success at the time, has intimated this.

de Boer seemed amenable enough.

Perhaps he should have stuck with Sherwood—but of course the fans wouldn't have worn that, would they?

 

[Main Man]

Surely that's one of our biggest problems. Its quite clear that our transfer strategy isn't that simple unfortunately.

Stoke, Newcastle and West Brom have signed worse players than us.

I don't think there would be too many proven, successful types getting in line to work under Levy now.

Even Rodgers, with his limited success at the time, has intimated this.

Tony Pulis would.

He would also put Levy in his place.

I can't believe you are using Brendan Rogers as an example. Last season was a Suarez influenced fluke, the real Brendan Rogers has been existence either side of that season.

 

[Main Man]

To dismiss him this early would be a joke and another damning indictment that we're demanding instant success and ignoring the problem areas that undermine the very managers we employ.

I don't want instant success, I just want at least what we had before.

The demise in our team, even since the end of the season has been huge. Why are people ignoring this?

 

[Mr Pink]

de Boer seemed amenable enough.

Perhaps he should have stuck with Sherwood—but of course the fans wouldn't have worn that, would they?

Who knows. But the likes of De Boer would of been encountering the same problems, others have, at some stage. Sure he could of made a better start but the structure within would of undermined him eventually as well.

To believe otherwise is now naive IMO.

 

[brendanb50]

A manager getting genuine time and backing at Spurs is well overdue. What is a manager meant to do in 18months/2years in terms of building and competing with the best? especially with our resources.

If we go down the same road again in relation to sacking him before he's had a chance to really change things, then that once again is a sad indictment of not only the sort of club we are but also a massively inadequate hiring policy.

If we hired Poch as the man for the long term, having assessed his abilities properly, then the only way to go forward for me is to back him, honour his contract and give him the players and resources he needs to succeed.