New Stadium Details And Discussions

[dazzle]

[The contract for the main structure has already been let.[/QUOTE]

By the 'main structure', do you mean the main steel and concrete bits? If so, I don't remember that contract being awarded... who got it?

 

[Spursidol]

[The contract for the main structure has already been let.

By the 'main structure', do you mean the main steel and concrete bits? If so, I don't remember that contract being awarded... who got it? [/QUOTE]


M Anderson Construction Ltd secured a £50m contract for the stadium foundations and concrete structures like upper floors and stairways in late 2014. http://www.newcivilengineer.com/spu...ations-and-structure-deal/8670524.fullarticle

 

[davidmatzdorf]

By the 'main structure', do you mean the main steel and concrete bits? If so, I don't remember that contract being awarded... who got it?

A £49m contract to construct the main substructure & superstructure was let to 'M Anderson Construction Ltd' in Sept 2014 - with the start of works delayed until the Archway Sheet Metal CPO dispute was resolved.

http://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.p...s-and-discussions.38802/page-626#post-4266760

http://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.p...s-and-discussions.38802/page-626#post-4266947

 

[brasil_spur]

Telegraph Football ‏@TeleFootball 2m2 minutes ago
Exclusive: #CFC and Tottenham could share Wembley in 2017-18 season | @Matt_Law_DT http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/12106745/Chelsea-and-Tottenham-could-share-Wembley-in-2017-18.html…

Christ this is the lasiest journalism on the planet right now. There just is no way in hell that Chel$cum will be ready to build in that season. They haven't even got planning permission for a borough of London that must be ten times harder to achieve permission for a football stadium in than Haringey.

 

[Roynie]

Christ this is the lasiest journalism on the planet right now. There just is no way in hell that Chel$cum will be ready to build in that season. They haven't even got planning permission for a borough of London that must be ten times harder to achieve permission for a football stadium in than Haringey.

Surely a Russian would know how to short circuit the planning system! ....

 

[Ionman34]

Another reason why contracts habitually run late is that the contractors are pressurised into setting unrealistically short programmes by demands from senior management, because profit is inversely related to time spent on site and because a shorter programme can lead to a more competitive tender.

The same is true of cost consultants, who are pressurised by their developer clients, who prefer to be unrealistically optimistic about how much they can offer for a site by being unrealistically optimistic about how much it will cost to build on it.

These contracts aren't really running "late" at all - only because the original target was never achievable.

This.

I've had to produce programmes for tenders. The programmes I've done were based on realistic timeframes, gleaned from experience, knowledge of plant/labour output and site constraints (ground conditions, room to work, surrounding infrastructure for deliveries etc). When everything goes to tender review, management pare everything down to produce the most competitive tender, then it's on the site personnel to find "innovative" ways to save time, or find Client caused EOT.

 

[UpTownSpur]

Telegraph Football ‏@TeleFootball 2m2 minutes ago
Exclusive: #CFC and Tottenham could share Wembley in 2017-18 season | @Matt_Law_DT http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/12106745/Chelsea-and-Tottenham-could-share-Wembley-in-2017-18.html…

Am I alone in preferring Milton Keynes to a half empty Wembley? For the simple reason that we'll finish the season with a better home record than if we go to play at Wembley for a year, it'll be a lot of teams cup final playing us at Wembley. And the atmosphere will be better at MK. Wembley with the upper tier empty will make for a rubbish atmosphere.

Milton Keynes is a tidy little stadium and there's space to add a third tier so perhaps we could get the capacity increased before going there.

 

[mpickard2087]

Am I alone in preferring Milton Keynes to a half empty Wembley? For the simple reason that we'll finish the season with a better home record than if we go to play at Wembley for a year, it'll be a lot of teams cup final playing us at Wembley. And the atmosphere will be better at MK. Wembley with the upper tier empty will make for a rubbish atmosphere.

Milton Keynes is a tidy little stadium and there's space to add a third tier so perhaps we could get the capacity increased before going there.

Agree, and not coz MK would be easier for me to get to. I think Wembley is one of the worst stadiums I have been to. It's a dull experience and a boring setting to watch football. £1bn and that's the best they could come up with...

 

[Mustard]

So we have to pay 15m to rent Wembley but the screaming irons only pay 2m a year rent....

So dodgy.

 

[yankspurs]

Am I alone in preferring Milton Keynes to a half empty Wembley? For the simple reason that we'll finish the season with a better home record than if we go to play at Wembley for a year, it'll be a lot of teams cup final playing us at Wembley. And the atmosphere will be better at MK. Wembley with the upper tier empty will make for a rubbish atmosphere.

Milton Keynes is a tidy little stadium and there's space to add a third tier so perhaps we could get the capacity increased before going there.

Im sure we could make the big games like the NLD an all stadium event. 90k person crowd for the NLD? Count me in for flying out for that one....as long as 80k+ are Spurs fans.

 

[UpTownSpur]

Im sure we could make the big games like the NLD an all stadium event. 90k person crowd for the NLD? Count me in for flying out for that one....as long as 80k+ are Spurs fans.

If us or Chelsea go there the capacity will be restricted to 50,000. They're only allowed a limited number of events above that every year. So even though we'd be able to sell it out for most, if not all, our games, we'd be playing in a half empty stadium every home game and it'll feel rubbish. Same for Chelsea and they're welcome to it. I'd rather we pay 15 mil to MK dons and they stick another tier on one of the sides and get the capacity up to what WHL is currently.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

It won't be a "half empty stadium". The entire lower tier will be full and the entire upper tier will be unused. It's not as if there will be gaps and empty seats.

And we're unlikely to be able to open the upper tier for selected events, because there is a limit in the planning consent for the stadium on the number of those they can have per year and every one we have means lost income for the stadium owners.

 

[Saoirse]

It won't be a "half empty stadium". The entire lower tier will be full and the entire upper tier will be unused. It's not as if there will be gaps and empty seats.

And we're unlikely to be able to open the upper tier for selected events, because there is a limit in the planning consent for the stadium on the number of those they can have per year and every one we have means lost income for the stadium owners.

The only way I could see the FA doing it would be if we had a potentially historic match that they'd want it to be full for in terms of prestige - if we were in the title race in May and had a chance of lifting the league or if we were playing at home in the second leg of a Champions League semi-final maybe.

 

[Spurs1960]

So we have to pay 15m to rent Wembley but the screaming irons only pay 2m a year rent....

So dodgy.

So dodgy it won't be true.
Wembley can not be seen to favour one club over the other so those figures are simply impossible.

 

[Lilbaz]

The only way I could see the FA doing it would be if we had a potentially historic match that they'd want it to be full for in terms of prestige - if we were in the title race in May and had a chance of lifting the league or if we were playing at home in the second leg of a Champions League semi-final maybe.

Wembley will have a schedule for their events months in advance to sell tickets. If england do tour around england then there may be free slots unless someone else takes them.

 

[Phischy]

So dodgy it won't be true.
Wembley can not be seen to favour one club over the other so those figures are simply impossible.

I think you've misunderstood. The Irons are West Ham, who are paying £2m for The Olympic Stadium. Both Spurs and Chelsea are reported to have offered £15m for Wembley. So Wembley/The FA aren't favouring either club, it was just a comparison with the deal West Ham have negotiated for The Olympic Stadium and how, despite protestations, it appears West Ham have achieved a hugely favourable (and not at-all) commercial deal.

 

[Flashspur]

I tweeted him saying this was not balanced journalism

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/matthew-smith-2/are-new-stadiums-always-a_b_9019288.html

 

[camaj]

Looks like the NFL rumours/speculation were correct!

While they don't say any more you'd have to say that we're the favourites. It's hard to believe they'd pick anywhere else

 

[Lancaster Spur]

Why don't people take into account the other affordable and social housing schemes the club is involved with as part of the entire NDP not just the homes next to the stadium. I know I have read somewhere that they reduced the affordable housing in the stadium and made the numbers up elsewhere for example-

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new...tottenhams-regeneration-gets-underway-251115/

 

[L-man]

Looks like the NFL rumours/speculation were correct!

While they don't say any more you'd have to say that we're the favourites. It's hard to believe they'd pick anywhere else

But Yankspurs said it wouldn't happen, what the hell?!