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SirHarryHotspur

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Who would have thought, Sutton might not be a complete dildo:

Whoever gave the host, don't know her name, facts on Spurs history has got it wrong, I assume they are referring to the Premier League only but to say it's the best unbeaten start in Spurs history is totally wrong. Ange still has a bit to go to match Billy Nick's start in 1960/61 , 16 unbeaten then lost 17th match to Sheffield Wednesday.

PS It seems she was referring to the best managerial start by any coach/manager at Spurs which is true and not the best start by Spurs to a top flight season.
 
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E17yid

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Was watching MOTD last night and one thing they, and everyone else, keeps banging on about is consistency with regards to refereeing (red cards in this instance) . Which sounds good, we all want it but the thing that annoys me is they keep taking about it in the context across various games and throughout the season when really what we should be focussing on is in game consistency.

Aside from offsides and ball crossing the line and other objective stuff the good thing about sport, football specifically, is that a lot of the decisions, specifically around fouls, are subjective and therefore you’re never going to get consistency throughout the season with a load of different refs who see things differently. We should, however, ask refs themselves to be consistent in game and be true to themselves throughout the season. Pundits that don’t even make this distinction kind of annoy me as on the one hand they’ll go on about the beautiful game and moan about VAR and on the other hand they’ll say they want 20 or so refs to all see the game in exactly the same way and for them all to ref games in exactly the same way through the entire season.
 

Graham Minshall

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Whoever gave the host, don't know her name, facts on Spurs history has got it wrong, I assume they are referring to the Premier League only but to say it's the best unbeaten start in Spurs history is totally wrong. Ange still has a bit to go to match Billy Nick's start in 1960/61 , 16 unbeaten then lost 17th match to Sheffield Wednesday.
Look at her age, she probably doesn’t know football existed before the 90s
 

robbiedee

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We had 3 players in Garth's team of the week on BBC website...

Micky, Vicario and Romero...

Here's his Romero analysis:

Cristian Romero (Tottenham): Spurs went top of the table, but they made hard work of it.

Son Heung-min and Richarlison were well off the pace and why Yves Bissouma thought it a good idea to dive having already been booked earlier in the game beggars belief. His second caution was totally justified and such recklessness needs to be addressed by Tottenham's coaching staff immediately before a costlier moment comes against a much bigger club.

Nevertheless, Spurs came away with all the points because of Luton's inability to take their chances even against 10 men, and thanks to defending from the likes of Romero. I've no doubt Luton are trying their best but I cannot see where they are going to get their goals from to stay in this league. By the time they do come to terms with the challenge facing them and adjust to the level required they will have been cut adrift.


Thanks for the insight Garth!
 

Trix

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Whoever gave the host, don't know her name, facts on Spurs history has got it wrong, I assume they are referring to the Premier League only but to say it's the best unbeaten start in Spurs history is totally wrong. Ange still has a bit to go to match Billy Nick's start in 1960/61 , 16 unbeaten then lost 17th match to Sheffield Wednesday.
It's the most points from 8 games in from any season. Which is maybe what they meant by it.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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It's the most points from 8 games in from any season. Which is maybe what they meant by it.
She said "the best unbeaten start any Tottenham manager has had in the clubs history" , she is just reading what some researcher has put in front of her , I reckon the researcher has only researched Premier League history and not Football League history, points totals are not comparable since it went three points per win.
If we can get to sixteen games unbeaten like Billy Nick then I reckon we might have a good chance of being Champions COYS.
 

HNIM

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She said "the best unbeaten start any Tottenham manager has had in the clubs history" , she is just reading what some researcher has put in front of her , I reckon the researcher has only researched Premier League history and not Football League history, points totals are not comparable since it went three points per win.
If we can get to sixteen games unbeaten like Billy Nick then I reckon we might have a good chance of being Champions COYS.
If that quote is accurate, the meaning of 'start' is ambiguous - it could refer to the start of a managerial career at Tottenham, in which case it's correct, or to the start of a season, in which case it's not.

Not worth getting one's underwear up in knots, anyway.
 

ernie78

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We had 3 players in Garth's team of the week on BBC website...

Micky, Vicario and Romero...

Here's his Romero analysis:

Cristian Romero (Tottenham): Spurs went top of the table, but they made hard work of it.

Son Heung-min and Richarlison were well off the pace and why Yves Bissouma thought it a good idea to dive having already been booked earlier in the game beggars belief. His second caution was totally justified and such recklessness needs to be addressed by Tottenham's coaching staff immediately before a costlier moment comes against a much bigger club.

Nevertheless, Spurs came away with all the points because of Luton's inability to take their chances even against 10 men, and thanks to defending from the likes of Romero. I've no doubt Luton are trying their best but I cannot see where they are going to get their goals from to stay in this league. By the time they do come to terms with the challenge facing them and adjust to the level required they will have been cut adrift.


Thanks for the insight Garth!
Garth really does steal a living as a pundit
 

SirHarryHotspur

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If that quote is accurate, the meaning of 'start' is ambiguous - it could refer to the start of a managerial career at Tottenham, in which case it's correct, or to the start of a season, in which case it's not.

Not worth getting one's underwear up in knots, anyway.
I think you've cracked it , "managerial career" , that has to be it, just didn't sound right , lets hope Ange can also equal or better "start of a season".
 

Nayim60yards

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It's the most points from 8 games in from any season. Which is maybe what they meant by it.
Is that only because although we won 11 in a row in 1960 the first eight wins were at two points a pop, hence 16 points to our 20 today? If so, that's not really fair is it?
 

RJR1949

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Is that only because although we won 11 in a row in 1960 the first eight wins were at two points a pop, hence 16 points to our 20 today? If so, that's not really fair is it?
Quite right. There was football before the Premier League (despite what Sky would have us believe).
 

Led's Zeppelin

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Is that only because although we won 11 in a row in 1960 the first eight wins were at two points a pop, hence 16 points to our 20 today? If so, that's not really fair is it?
Quite right...11 wins out of 11 to start, then a draw, then another 4 straight wins...so in modern terms, 46 points from the first 16 games.

And at this stage, after 8 games, 24 points. And a + 16 GD.

It's obviously not possible for any team to match that this year.
 

PaulThurston

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Quite right...11 wins out of 11 to start, then a draw, then another 4 straight wins...so in modern terms, 46 points from the first 16 games.

And at this stage, after 8 games, 24 points. And a + 16 GD.

It's obviously not possible for any team to match that this year.
I hadn't checked and assumed they'd adjusted to three points for a win. I am a stupid boy.

Is it our best first 8 *since* then though?
 

Trix

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Coming from the same genius who thought Ange would fail, as he was too small time for the PL. Fair weather much, Martin?
To be fair he's been quite complimentary for the last few weeks, and compared it to when Wenger took over at Arsenal and how he lifted all the pressure off the players and allowed them the freedom to express themselves. I'm very much in the camp that Keown like Merson is an extremely bias bellend of a pundit when it comes to Arsenal, but he has been changing his tune gradually as the weeks have gone on regarding Ange.
 
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easley91

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Coming from the same genius who thought Ange would fail, as he was too small time for the PL. Fair weather much, Martin?
Opinions can change over time can't they? Or is that not allowed anymore and you have to die on that hill? Some here thought the same and thought without Kane we'd massively struggle.
 

Mr Pink

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Opinions can change over time can't they? Or is that not allowed anymore and you have to die on that hill? Some here thought the same and thought without Kane we'd massively struggle.

Of course but some people make very strong statements on the basis of fuck all.
 

oobaties

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Opinions can change over time can't they? Or is that not allowed anymore and you have to die on that hill? Some here thought the same and thought without Kane we'd massively struggle.
100%. My opinion of Arsenal changes all the time. Some days I think they’re insufferable gobs!tes. Other days, I think they’re total Contes!
 
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