What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 19/20

kaz Hirai

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Norwich away for United...nice one! Taking Jose of us even after watching him destroy our team..you mugs!

And spurs fans were happy when Mourinho went to there? You were warned! You're welcome to him.
Good luck slipping back into mediocrity.


Remember when you were laughing at us?

It's barely been 5 months and spurs fans have already had enough :lol:

I guess they regret sacking poch :lol:

Hahaha!! Mourinho!!!!! We United fans tried to tell you

Bottler-FC

Mourinho will do what he always does, kills players and the club's he's involved in. Will only get worse
Feel sorry for poch as Mourinho is killing everything he build


Your recent upturn in form was a blip...now it's slipping back to reality

Lmao United fans did try warning you


Blah blah blah , lots more of the same sentiment 😢
 

stov

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Norwich away for United...nice one! Taking Jose of us even after watching him destroy our team..you mugs!

And spurs fans were happy when Mourinho went to there? You were warned! You're welcome to him.
Good luck slipping back into mediocrity.


Remember when you were laughing at us?

It's barely been 5 months and spurs fans have already had enough :lol:

I guess they regret sacking poch :lol:

Hahaha!! Mourinho!!!!! We United fans tried to tell you

Bottler-FC

Mourinho will do what he always does, kills players and the club's he's involved in. Will only get worse
Feel sorry for poch as Mourinho is killing everything he build


Your recent upturn in form was a blip...now it's slipping back to reality

Lmao United fans did try warning you


Blah blah blah , lots more of the same sentiment 😢
They aren't wrong about mourinho though. We are back to the banter club.
 

Spurs 1961

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Norwich away for United...nice one! Taking Jose of us even after watching him destroy our team..you mugs!

And spurs fans were happy when Mourinho went to there? You were warned! You're welcome to him.
Good luck slipping back into mediocrity.


Remember when you were laughing at us?

It's barely been 5 months and spurs fans have already had enough :lol:

I guess they regret sacking poch :lol:

Hahaha!! Mourinho!!!!! We United fans tried to tell you

Bottler-FC

Mourinho will do what he always does, kills players and the club's he's involved in. Will only get worse
Feel sorry for poch as Mourinho is killing everything he build


Your recent upturn in form was a blip...now it's slipping back to reality

Lmao United fans did try warning you


Blah blah blah , lots more of the same sentiment 😢
Yep they are not wrong ... and a lot of Chelsea mates said the same to me, with big grins on their faces.
 

teok

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Shameful Spurs
Spurs used to be a team that a lot of people liked. Did the things the right way, sensible transfer strategy, played good football, a group of likeable players. Today they became the most vile club in English football. According to reports, they will use the governments furlough scheme, so that staff will get a 20% pay cut. Non-playing staff that is. The 8th richest club in world football will use taxpayers money to save themselves a few quid.

To put it another way, the staff at the club who are paid the least amount of money, are taking pay cuts, while those on million pound contracts (including Daniel Levy) will lose out on nothing. What percentage wage cut do you think the players would need to take to save the same amount of money? 5%? 10% If this news today is true, then Spurs are nothing short of a disgrace. Shame on Levy and shame on Spurs.
Mike, LFC, London



Hello

I was so surprised to see the negative headlines about how Newcastle and spurs are dealing with the loss of income caused by corona, by getting staff to take pay cuts.

Mike Ashley and Daniel levy have always seemed like such compassionate, kind, level headed people.

Cheers
Andrew, Woodford Green



The pyramid will come crashing down
So, the last couple of days has seen the mailbox pretty much dominated by the discussion over whether to void or not void. Let’s be blunt. There are, broadly speaking, just two camps. Keep playing this season if it takes the next fifty years to complete and nothing else is acceptable (Liverpool, Leeds for example) and everybody else whose feelings are either stridently opposed or, whose attitude can be best summed up as, ‘Meh’.

This is F365. We’re all on here for the same reason. To read about, comment, and generally discuss, all things footy. But, and with the greatest respect to all who have written in with their views on how and why this season could (not), or should (not) continue, and in whatever format, you’re completely missing the point. You are, I would respectfully suggest, and from a football pov, acting in exactly the same way as the people who flooded to the beaches, parks and other tourist spots last weekend. In short, you’re in denial.

COVID-19 isn’t a ‘game-changer’. It’s a ‘World-changer’. We already have a glimpse of what a post-Coronavirus world will look like now, with businesses closing, large scale lay-offs, airlines grounded and Governments across the world pumping previously unthinkable sums into their economies that will, most assuredly, have some very, very scary consequences down the line. How we live, shop, mingle and work in a post- COVID 19 world will be different to how it was just two months ago.

This will, necessarily, include football clubs and, regardless of how long they have existed, their history, or how passionate their supporters are, going to the wall. It is inevitable, especially when you consider how many clubs have been living ‘hand-to-mouth’ over the last twenty years. The football pyramid that we knew on 1st January 2020 is about to come crashing down because, (and deep down didn’t we all know it?) it has been a business model that simply could NOT be sustained.

I condemn the Board at Spurs for electing to seek Government financial assistance. They are not a high street shop with 5-12 employees and the scheme introduced was not intended for Premier League clubs (including most specifically my own) spending squillions on players and players wages to then go cap-in-hand when the football season is unexpectedly stopped. Shame on Spurs and any other ‘top-flight’ clubs that follow suit. (There will be more. Greed will out).

Oh, and to be clear. Whilst I absolutely agree that the resumption of football, across the world, would be a massive boost to morale, Governments should NOT be bailing out football clubs. Or maybe they could. And then, perhaps, they could bail out every professional Cricket, Rugby Union/League teams, athletic associations or boxing matches.

Except they can’t do that, and they absolutely shouldn’t. Whichever country you live in, your Government simply does not have a bottomless pit of funds. As you are reading this you are, and routinely continue to, assess what you realistically can afford in your daily life as opposed to what you would like.

I’d like a fully ‘spec’d designer’ Range Rover (Like a certain Villa Player) but blue in colour and the lovely Kelly Brook or, better still, a Miss Linda Lusardi on my arm.

Ain’t gonna happen.

One of the best managers in the history of British football (and I sincerely hope this is the correct, rather than the most repeated, quote) once said:

“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don’t like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that”.

I’m sure Mr Shankly didn’t actually believe that however much it is repeated. And, if proof were needed, we now have news of a 13-year-old boy, with no other underlying health issues, dying in London from COVID 19. I refuse to accept that Bill Shankly, or anybody else in football today, would consider the comparison valid.

There was a time when there just Leagues 1, 2, 3 and 4. Then it changed.
Mark (It’s about to change again). MCFC.
 

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Shameful Spurs
Spurs used to be a team that a lot of people liked. Did the things the right way, sensible transfer strategy, played good football, a group of likeable players. Today they became the most vile club in English football. According to reports, they will use the governments furlough scheme, so that staff will get a 20% pay cut. Non-playing staff that is. The 8th richest club in world football will use taxpayers money to save themselves a few quid.

To put it another way, the staff at the club who are paid the least amount of money, are taking pay cuts, while those on million pound contracts (including Daniel Levy) will lose out on nothing. What percentage wage cut do you think the players would need to take to save the same amount of money? 5%? 10% If this news today is true, then Spurs are nothing short of a disgrace. Shame on Levy and shame on Spurs.
Mike, LFC, London



Hello

I was so surprised to see the negative headlines about how Newcastle and spurs are dealing with the loss of income caused by corona, by getting staff to take pay cuts.

Mike Ashley and Daniel levy have always seemed like such compassionate, kind, level headed people.

Cheers
Andrew, Woodford Green



The pyramid will come crashing down

So, the last couple of days has seen the mailbox pretty much dominated by the discussion over whether to void or not void. Let’s be blunt. There are, broadly speaking, just two camps. Keep playing this season if it takes the next fifty years to complete and nothing else is acceptable (Liverpool, Leeds for example) and everybody else whose feelings are either stridently opposed or, whose attitude can be best summed up as, ‘Meh’.

This is F365. We’re all on here for the same reason. To read about, comment, and generally discuss, all things footy. But, and with the greatest respect to all who have written in with their views on how and why this season could (not), or should (not) continue, and in whatever format, you’re completely missing the point. You are, I would respectfully suggest, and from a football pov, acting in exactly the same way as the people who flooded to the beaches, parks and other tourist spots last weekend. In short, you’re in denial.

COVID-19 isn’t a ‘game-changer’. It’s a ‘World-changer’. We already have a glimpse of what a post-Coronavirus world will look like now, with businesses closing, large scale lay-offs, airlines grounded and Governments across the world pumping previously unthinkable sums into their economies that will, most assuredly, have some very, very scary consequences down the line. How we live, shop, mingle and work in a post- COVID 19 world will be different to how it was just two months ago.

This will, necessarily, include football clubs and, regardless of how long they have existed, their history, or how passionate their supporters are, going to the wall. It is inevitable, especially when you consider how many clubs have been living ‘hand-to-mouth’ over the last twenty years. The football pyramid that we knew on 1st January 2020 is about to come crashing down because, (and deep down didn’t we all know it?) it has been a business model that simply could NOT be sustained.

I condemn the Board at Spurs for electing to seek Government financial assistance. They are not a high street shop with 5-12 employees and the scheme introduced was not intended for Premier League clubs (including most specifically my own) spending squillions on players and players wages to then go cap-in-hand when the football season is unexpectedly stopped. Shame on Spurs and any other ‘top-flight’ clubs that follow suit. (There will be more. Greed will out).

Oh, and to be clear. Whilst I absolutely agree that the resumption of football, across the world, would be a massive boost to morale, Governments should NOT be bailing out football clubs. Or maybe they could. And then, perhaps, they could bail out every professional Cricket, Rugby Union/League teams, athletic associations or boxing matches.

Except they can’t do that, and they absolutely shouldn’t. Whichever country you live in, your Government simply does not have a bottomless pit of funds. As you are reading this you are, and routinely continue to, assess what you realistically can afford in your daily life as opposed to what you would like.

I’d like a fully ‘spec’d designer’ Range Rover (Like a certain Villa Player) but blue in colour and the lovely Kelly Brook or, better still, a Miss Linda Lusardi on my arm.

Ain’t gonna happen.

One of the best managers in the history of British football (and I sincerely hope this is the correct, rather than the most repeated, quote) once said:

“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don’t like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that”.

I’m sure Mr Shankly didn’t actually believe that however much it is repeated. And, if proof were needed, we now have news of a 13-year-old boy, with no other underlying health issues, dying in London from COVID 19. I refuse to accept that Bill Shankly, or anybody else in football today, would consider the comparison valid.

There was a time when there just Leagues 1, 2, 3 and 4. Then it changed.
Mark (It’s about to change again). MCFC.
These people are missing the point.

Clubs have high fixed costs and, with no football being played, need to take all of the actions available to ensure that they survive while they can generate no income. Among the highest of these fixed costs is player salaries. It is the players who should receive moral condemnation, not the clubs. Barcelona players - to name those of just one club - have volunteered to take a 70% cut in wages. If Spurs players (or those of any other PL club) did the same thing, then Spurs and other clubs would have no reason to apply for government subsidy.
 

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Shameful Spurs
Spurs used to be a team that a lot of people liked. Did the things the right way, sensible transfer strategy, played good football, a group of likeable players. Today they became the most vile club in English football. According to reports, they will use the governments furlough scheme, so that staff will get a 20% pay cut. Non-playing staff that is. The 8th richest club in world football will use taxpayers money to save themselves a few quid.

To put it another way, the staff at the club who are paid the least amount of money, are taking pay cuts, while those on million pound contracts (including Daniel Levy) will lose out on nothing. What percentage wage cut do you think the players would need to take to save the same amount of money? 5%? 10% If this news today is true, then Spurs are nothing short of a disgrace. Shame on Levy and shame on Spurs.
Mike, LFC, London
The bit in bold ... LOL

Which gutter shit publication did this utter bollocks come from?
 

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It's embarrassing if the club are asking the Govt to help pay non playing staff. A lot of people are in desperate situations losing their businesses and livlihoods and the Govt have to try to support as many of them as possible. There are obscene amounts of money sloshing around in the higher eschelons of football while the lowere leagues are facing great hardships. Meanwhile, Joe Lewis is self isolating somewhere off Bermuda counting his billions and art treasures. Shameful.
 

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It's embarrassing if the club are asking the Govt to help pay non playing staff. A lot of people are in desperate situations losing their businesses and livlihoods and the Govt have to try to support as many of them as possible. There are obscene amounts of money sloshing around in the higher eschelons of football while the lowere leagues are facing great hardships. Meanwhile, Joe Lewis is self isolating somewhere off Bermuda counting his billions and art treasures. Shameful.
Why is it?
 

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There were quite a few posts in that mailbag for f365 on levy’s side when I read it earlier. Not posted here for balance though 🤔

Here’s the link


I’m grateful for Levy’s parsimonious approach
Thanks, Mike, LFC Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, for the diatribe about Spurs this morning.
If you think the players aren’t being impacted, you clearly have no idea how the club operates. Salaries are performance related. If you’re not on the pitch, scoring goals or securing a certain position in the table, I’m guessing many of them are taking more than a 20% haircut given the performance-related aspect goes out the window. I won’t cry for too many of them, but let’s not pretend this isn’t effecting the playing staff too. I’m sure there’ll be further cuts once there’s clarity about the season’s outcome. Levy has already signalled that’s the case, when referencing cuts at Barca, Madrid and Juve, but until you know for certain, why risk pissing of staff who can upsticks and leave potentially in two months, and be the only club to do so?
Given the downturn, I’m grateful Levy’s parsimonious approach didn’t see us over extend the wage bill and put the club in a more precarious position. To give further perspective, Spurs are losing about 5M a home game. Given where we are in the season, and cancellation of various sporting events, expect Spurs total revenue to drop at least 20% once all is said and done. An organisation that currently has no matchday revenue, and is shuttered operationally, continues to pay its staff at 80%, using the government’s scheme (shock horror – that’s what it’s there for), instead of laying them all off with no salary – but that doesn’t garner headlines, or play to pre-conceived indignation that some people seem to revel in.
Dan James “Day 23 of lockdown. All work and no play….”

Mike, LFC, London et al…
If you’ve quite finished, then might I point out that Levy’s statement yesterday clearly included the words ‘and directors’ when detailing who will be taking the pay cut? It’s basically just the players who won’t be affected. And the higher earning directors and management (Levy included) would not be eligible for the Government scheme so wouldn’t receive taxpayer’s money anyway.
Regarding the players, I believe the PFA and Gordon Taylor are doing their level best to stand in the way of a pay cut for them at the moment, and are using their considerable clout to stop to clubs acting unilaterally regarding player contracts. It would be nice if the players were willing to take the cut of their own accord, however I don’t know what kind of relationship the average premier league footballer has with his union, and what sort of power they have in this situation. Indeed, one could read Levy’s statement as a challenge to the PFA and the players to do more, with its statements of ‘people need to wake up’, ‘football cannot operate in a bubble’ ‘we hope the current discussions between the Premier League and the PFA will result in players doing their bit’.
Now, do I think that Joe Lewis should siphon off some of his vast wealth in this extraordinary time to continue to pay people their full wages? Yes, of course. But he has never shown an inclination to inject wealth into the club (the cause of the ‘sensible transfer strategy’ you praise). In the absence of that happening, the already divisive Levy was forced to take a difficult decision that he must have known would prove highly unpopular.
Distasteful? Perhaps – I think it says more about the sordid nature of finance in English football in general. But a disgrace? The most vile club in English football? Do grow up.
Andrew

Yes, Mike (LFC, from the popular Merseyside suburb London) we are the most vile club in the world.
I’m sure Juventus must have had the warmest of feelings about your club post Heysel.
Notwithstanding all that what else does anyone expect from Tottenham’s very own Mr Spock?
A £3m bonus for completing a late and over budget stadium – imagine what he’d have got paid if it was completed on time?
David (Sydney, suburb just up from Tottenham Hale)
 

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That was 2 plus hours after I posted them here.

This is the one I read from this morning.


Shame Football365 didn't report about the work Spurs are doing in the community though, eh?

Such a shit website, and you keep posting their shite work as well. Giving them clicks for spouting bile.
 

teok

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It's a letters page and I'm posting it in the "what our opponents fans are saying about us" thread.
 

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Shame Football365 didn't report about the work Spurs are doing in the community though, eh?

Such a shit website, and you keep posting their shite work as well. Giving them clicks for spouting bile.
the trouble is very little good news ever breaks out in the media, so no praise is given out. they thrive on bad news.

Newcastle announced doing this 1st, but no mention of the numbers, Norwich did it after us and again no mention of numbers, our headline is 550 people.

at the moment no clubs are earning anything, and I doubt many people have a clue on what it's costing or the overall costs if after this (could be a year) on what it will cost clubs in losses
 

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Shameful Spurs
Spurs used to be a team that a lot of people liked. Did the things the right way, sensible transfer strategy, played good football, a group of likeable players. Today they became the most vile club in English football. According to reports, they will use the governments furlough scheme, so that staff will get a 20% pay cut. Non-playing staff that is. The 8th richest club in world football will use taxpayers money to save themselves a few quid.

To put it another way, the staff at the club who are paid the least amount of money, are taking pay cuts, while those on million pound contracts (including Daniel Levy) will lose out on nothing. What percentage wage cut do you think the players would need to take to save the same amount of money? 5%? 10% If this news today is true, then Spurs are nothing short of a disgrace. Shame on Levy and shame on Spurs.
Mike, LFC, London
Oh Mike, if only you’d have waited a little longer to post your opinion....
 
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