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Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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dodgy translation:

Fortunately no City.
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Yes, fantastic! We think we have a much better chance against Spurs than against City. Spurs also has a very narrow selection and a very busy program all year round. Also another 4 former Ajax players.

Son does not participate anyway and Kane probably also has to miss 1 game (and otherwise without a match rhythm).

I see our chances of at least 50%.

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This is not impossible !. Without Kane and Son. At Ajax, that is something like without Tadic and Ziyech hahah. I do see opportunities
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Fortunately not a City indeed, because with Aguero / Sane etc. You would have had more problems.

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If we have everyone fit by that time, we should be able to win it. Another advantage is that we first play out.

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It sounds simple, but if you are unbeaten against Bayern, Real and Juve, what does this Spurs suggest? We look a bit with 2 sizes because of course the Spurs has a much larger budget but in terms of selection, I find them not particularly strong.

In the back you have running backs, which do not know what playing football is against wingers. Alderweireld (I still find it somewhat overrated) and Vertonghen are no longer what they have been. Sanchez also has a hard time picking up in England.

Eriksen runs in midfield and that is by far the best football player there. Because they might be both Kane and Son in the front, Eriksen will also be somewhat limited because the substitutes of both men are a lot less. Die Alli was a great talent in his first year, but he also gets stuck a bit and doesn't get better.

This duel with you just decide there already. This is the time to at least reach the final.

I think that Ajax will easily reach the final.

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Son suspended the first game. Kane probably injured in both games.
They have a narrow selection so hopefully some (not too serious for the players) aches and pains.

Can we hopefully show PSV how things should be done?


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I am curious what Ten Hag will do with the right back position. Just assuming that they are both fit and ready to play.

On the one hand, I think we should prepare Mazraoui. You have to take advantage of the fact that they miss attacking power (Son and Kane) and therefore you can set up a lesser defender. Moreover, it is important to score some goals and Mazraoui is offensive better than Veltman. On the other hand, I think Veltman has been very stable, more stable than Mazraoui in recent weeks. We also have Tagliafico on the other side. Let it walk a bit more on the left than we have and we have more defensive power on the right. So I could also understand the choice for Veltman. Against Juventus also scored twice a pass.

But I read back in various analyzes that it will become important for Ajax to frequently carry out a successful substitution pass. Tottenham makes the playing field very small and puts pressure on with many players, massively turning over the opponent's possession on a certain side. Then it is handy again that you can build up from the left and the right and have a good footballer there. Mazraoui is naturally a midfielder of course, and you can see that reflected in his game. Is much more comfortable at the ball.

All in all, I would prefer Mazraoui, purely because of its attacking qualities. But the choice for Veltman would not be wrong either. It's nice that there is something to choose from and that the level is so close together. Important in this final phase of the season. And again, assuming two fit players. It could also be that Mazraoui is not yet fully fit or does not respond well to a final training session before taking a seat in the stands.

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Seen Spurs-West Ham on Saturday. Spurs didn't make me hot or cold again. The only things that make them really dangerous are the fast, deep-pass applications from Eriksen. They are very good too, and those quick attackers know how to handle that.Furthermore, they really like it in the back when the pace is low and the game is static, but Ajax can combine with a lot of movement like no other between the lines. If Ajax has difficulty with that, Tottenham is a tough team without excelling too much. I also do not want to go into all euphoria from all sides. We just have to do it. Tottenham remains a solid team.

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Double feeling for this competition. Bale from playing against Vertonghen. That feels so uncomfortable because I am almost 100% sure that he is (fanatic) supporter. I also have to bear in mind that Eriksen is decisive in this competition. That would really hurt my stomach.

In addition, Spurs comes across as easy. Especially if you've played Real and Juve. You automatically automatically think about what is very strange and perhaps very stupid.

Despite that, Ajax just needs to win this. Spurs was not thunderous in the games against PSV. Kane does not participate. Son is suspended the first game. Who needs to score goals for Spurs?

Ajax is the favorite. Wondering how they handle this role.

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Indeed. Not much to add.

Yes they have eliminated City with a lot of art and flight work. Of course they are not just in the semi-final and it is (together with Ajax) the surprise. Playing football, I think it's pretty poor and Kane is also somewhat overrated. We may look at it differently because there are quite a few former Ajax players, but this is just the chance.

If City has a great day and all players are in top form, you are completely out of luck. If this were at The Spurs, you just have a chance because their selection is simply less. Apart from the former Ajax players, they have few players that I would like to see at Ajax, so it is absolutely no wonder team.

English football suits us and smart players like Tadic, Neres, Ziyech and De Jong have to succeed. Again, decide there already.
A lot of this is quite spot on.
 

hughy

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A lot of this is quite spot on.
Apart from this one:

It sounds simple, but if you are unbeaten against Bayern, Real and Juve, what does this Spurs suggest? We look a bit with 2 sizes because of course the Spurs has a much larger budget but in terms of selection, I find them not particularly strong.

In the back you have running backs, which do not know what playing football is against wingers. Alderweireld (I still find it somewhat overrated) and Vertonghen are no longer what they have been. Sanchez also has a hard time picking up in England.

Eriksen runs in midfield and that is by far the best football player there. Because they might be both Kane and Son in the front, Eriksen will also be somewhat limited because the substitutes of both men are a lot less. Die Alli was a great talent in his first year, but he also gets stuck a bit and doesn't get better.

This duel with you just decide there already. This is the time to at least reach the final.

I think that Ajax will easily reach the final.

Who insists Toby's overrated, Vertongen isn't the player he was, and Dele hasn't improved since his first year.
 

Paolo10

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Apr 6, 2004
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I read it in a Goldmember voice tbh.

They're talking a load of shite, they're a feeder club and we'll do the clog wearing, tulip sniffing, legalised weed ****s over two legs and make them cry into their pale lagers.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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"English football suits us and smart players like Tadic"
Not sure English football suited Tadic he averaged five goals a year in England.
Pleased to see they are quite confident and obviously feel they are favourites, I'm not sure they've measured us correctly, we'll win this.
 

Kingellesar

This is the way
May 2, 2005
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They beat Madrid and Juventus. We beat Dortmund and City.

I think both have done incredibly well considering. I really can't call it, I think they are probably playing better than us but form goes out the window in this competition it seems! Just pray and hope we keep that clean sheet tomorrow.
 

wrd

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They beat Madrid and Juventus. We beat Dortmund and City.

I think both have done incredibly well considering. I really can't call it, I think they are probably playing better than us but form goes out the window in this competition it seems! Just pray and hope we keep that clean sheet tomorrow.

Yeah it's interesting that they are getting so much applause for those 2 results which is understandable on a name basis but if you look at it, Dortmund and City combined probably edges Juventus and Madrid this season.

I'd rank the teams this season

1.City
2. Juve
3. Dortmund
4. Madrid

so I'd argue we actually had better results. Will all be irrelevant come tomorrow though.
 

dagraham

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Yeah it's interesting that they are getting so much applause for those 2 results which is understandable on a name basis but if you look at it, Dortmund and City combined probably edges Juventus and Madrid this season.

I'd rank the teams this season

1.City
2. Juve
3. Dortmund
4. Madrid

so I'd argue we actually had better results. Will all be irrelevant come tomorrow though.

On the other hand, they beat Madrid and Juventus away. Something we’ve never done, even with a full strength team.

Tomorrow is going to be a very difficult match considering our unavailable players.
 

wrd

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On the other hand, they beat Madrid and Juventus away. Something we’ve never done, even with a full strength team.

Tomorrow is going to be a very difficult match considering our unavailable players.

Yeah it's true but they're always caveats to some of those results, Madrid are significantly worse this season and Juventus had no Chiellini who makes an immense difference. Can't take anything away from them for those 2 results but I think a lot of people expect Ajax to win on the back of those results and I'm not one of them.
 

JCRD

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"English football suits us and smart players like Tadic"
Not sure English football suited Tadic he averaged five goals a year in England.
Pleased to see they are quite confident and obviously feel they are favourites, I'm not sure they've measured us correctly, we'll win this.


I really like Tadic and was very surprised Southampton got rid

They are confident and rightly so, id prefer being the underdogs... We were underdogs after three games, underdogs before Dortmund and underdogs before Man Shitty

We ought to be called Tottenham Underdogs although Underdog Hotspur has a better ring to it.
 

SteveH

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Jul 21, 2003
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On the other hand, they beat Madrid and Juventus away. Something we’ve never done, even with a full strength team.

Tomorrow is going to be a very difficult match considering our unavailable players.

I want to win.
But if we didn’t I would love Ajax to go on and win!
They were exceptional. They made me smile like the Dutch team in the 70s
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
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There are some amongst us who may echo that last sentiment tho...
His second season produced his best goalscoring stats, but his record against the big teams even in the last 2 seasons speaks for itself.

Big game player for the most part.
 

SpartanSpur

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I think the attitude and thoughts of the Ajax fans is understandable. They have a lot going in their favour and are playing much better than us.

The question is how the Ajax players approach this mentally. This is the first time they aren't huge underdogs, in fact our injuries should make them favourites. That is a whole different kind of pressure. Can they cope? Both teams are in uncharted waters here too.

Look at Wolves in the FA Cup, eliminate Liverpool and Utd, only to fall short vs Watford. Hopefully the same occurs with Ajax.

On song we also should be a more functional unit to play against than this years poor RM and even Juve, who IMO had an air of 'just give it to Ronaldo' about them this season in the CL. We have the players to win the physical battle if we can force the game that way.

We still need to be bang on it defensively and clinical offensively to pull it out of the bag however. We are down to the bare bones.
 

spurs mental

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I don't care what the score is as long as we do not concede

Yep. Especially with Son and (Not sure if anyone read the press conferences transcript today) maybe a chance Kane makes it back, we should be scoring an away goal there.

It's imperative we don't concede tomorrow night.
 
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