We are in for a crazy summer!

[wishmaster]

GARDNER,- yes please.
CERNY - ok but better available.
LEE - squad player so dont care.
ROCHA - pants from what i have seen.
MURPHY - waste of money in the first place.
STALTIERI - surplus so can go.
GHALY - shame about the shirt throwing thing he is playing well at the moment.

the following pretty likely -
ROBINSON - a season overdue.
TAINIO - shame i kinda like him but not cutting edge.
EKOTTO - not a hope as said he has been injured so wont go yet.

the following possibles -
BOATENG,KABOUL,TARAABT - again as mentioned wont go unless silly money comes in for them, they need at least another season.

BERBY - gone and although sorry to see him go i hope we have the sense to sell abroad,(sick of will he wont he go )(yes he will end of)..
Defoe should never have been sold and now we`ll have Bent and Keano... not exactly thrilling is it?mg:

I hope we can sell Bent for a few quid as Charlton got the deal of the decade for this useless lump of shite, say all you want he has failed miserably at spurs and doesnt show any sign of the Charlton man of old.

 

[wishmaster]

Wtf? I don't think any of them need to be sold. I think it's silly to ever say someone needs to be sold. Unless they're first name's Grzegorz.[/quote]

I think flogged is the word you were looking for not sold.
flogged with a wip that is. :rofl:

 

[talkshowhost86]

Wtf? I don't think any of them need to be sold. I think it's silly to ever say someone needs to be sold. Unless they're first name's Grzegorz.

Neither Huddlestone or Zokora are good enough for where we want to be. People will say Huddlestone needs time but he's had time and still looks far from ever being a top class central midfielder, and as for Zokora although he's improved he still lacks the basic talent to be in a top four team which is where we should be aspiring to be.

JJ we all know can be good but he doesn't do it nearly often enough and he doesn't striker me as the sort of player who would react well to sitting on the bench.

If the players aren't good enough they should be sold rather than being allowed to get their money for performing like they have this season. And in central midfield it's even more important that we get it right and if that means selling the deadwood then that's exactly what we should do.

 

[stemark44]

These 3 guys - Huddlestone,Zokora and Jenas have all had man-of-the match performances this season therefore they all have qualities that we will need in the squad next season!I am not saying they should start every game but they are 3 players that I would want to keep.
The area's we really need to improve is replace Robinson - replace Malbranque - replace Lennon and get a central midfielder who can dictate the tempo of the game!

 

[C0YS]

Flatters is right ya know we dont need to sell anybody, we just need to buy a couple more. Only sell if we need the money from the sale. Wages are to high. and thats it.

stemark how can you say steeeed should be sold the workforce of the team, The guy who always gives it his all. 3rd in SC player of the year!

 

[pagevee]

MURPHY - waste of money in the first place.

First, Murphy was sold over the summer. If we could get another payment for the kitty that would be fine with me. I'm still not really concerned about selling him this summer...again.

Second, to whoever said Malbranque must go..... what are you smoking, because I need some of that shit. Did you even remember the beginning of the year when Berbatov was scoring....nothing and Steed was the only consistent performer.

To go: Ghaly (no chance he stays), Gardner (if he can pass a physical), Rocha (never plays anymore), Lee (never plays anymore), Dawson (doesn't seem to be progressing anymore), Robinson (Howlers), Cerny (don't refresh the loan or sign), Chimbo (tired of the attitude issues)

To go to the bench in favor of new blood: Dawson if he stayed, Zokora if he stays, Hudd if he stays, Lennon just so he remains hungry (I just think he needs a swift kick in the pants to start working harder even though he is still pretty damn good), JJ (just to let him know he must learn consistency).

Remaining starters: Someone that knows how to challenge a cros into the box, Woody, King when fit, Bale, Hutton, Lennon or his challenger, anyone but Zokora, JJ when on form or new blood, Malbranque or new blood, Berba if he stays, and Keane

Remaining players still on the bench: Kaboul (still young), Taraabt (still young), Gunter (still young), TT (I just love the guys passion for spurs and he can play many utility roles...when fit). Not sure if I missed anyone but not going to be bothered with it.

Take this for what it is.... a f-in opinion:beer:

 

[C0YS]

First, Murphy was sold over the summer. If we could get another payment for the kitty that would be fine with me. I'm still not really concerned about selling him this summer...again.

Second, to whoever said Malbranque must go..... what are you smoking, because I need some of that shit. Did you even remember the beginning of the year when Berbatov was scoring....nothing and Steed was the only consistent performer.

To go: Ghaly (no chance he stays), Gardner (if he can pass a physical), Rocha (never plays anymore), Lee (never plays anymore), Dawson (well he did well against boro so deppends on what he does from here) (doesn't seem to be progressing anymore), Robinson (Howlers), Cerny (don't refresh the loan or sign), Chimbo (tired of the attitude issues)

To go to the bench in favor of new blood: Dawson if he stayed, Zokora if he stays, Hudd if he stays(I think he will, lets not get rid of are massive potential youngsters!:wink (also dosent that mean he stays in the same place (the bench)), Lennon just so he remains hungry (I just think he needs a swift kick in the pants to start working harder even though he is still pretty damn good), JJ (just to let him know he must learn consistency).

Remaining starters: Someone that knows how to challenge a cros into the box, Woody, King when fit, Bale, Hutton, Lennon or his challenger, anyone but Zokora, JJ when on form or new blood, Malbranque or new blood, Berba if he stays, and Keane

Remaining players still on the bench: Kaboul (still young), Taraabt (still young), Gunter (still young), TT (I just love the guys passion for spurs and he can play many utility roles...when fit). Not sure if I missed anyone but not going to be bothered with it.

Take this for what it is.... a f-in opinion:beer:

Apart from the above agree with. But Lennon more of a regular/bench just really pressure

 

[davros]

the following possibles -
BOATENG,KABOUL,TARAABT - again as mentioned wont go unless silly money comes in for them, they need at least another season.

BERBY - gone and although sorry to see him go i hope we have the sense to sell abroad,(sick of will he wont he go )(yes he will end of)..
Defoe should never have been sold and now we`ll have Bent and Keano... not exactly thrilling is it?mg:

I hope we can sell Bent for a few quid as Charlton got the deal of the decade for this useless lump of shite, say all you want he has failed miserably at spurs and doesnt show any sign of the Charlton man of old.

I totally agree with you on Taarabt, Kaboul and Boateng. They need more time and certainly were never expected to get much first team action this season or probably next.

Berbs is pobably gone, but I still can't bring myself to say it's a certainty. In all honesty I've stopped thinking about that one. We're getting Ronny anyway

I disagree over your comments about Defoe and Bent. Defoe was not first choice and proved to be a very limited player for most of his time with us. I usually like to see our ex-players do well, and I'm happy enough for him to be scoring at his new club.
Bent has been injured and spent most of his time on the bench. He's still scored some important goals for us and to be called a "useless lump of shite", or whatever you said, really shows great disrespect for a player who seemed to show some measure of class in his choice to join us over another club and has not had a decent run of games in which to get some form together. In terms of goals per minute on the field he can't be far behind Keano or even Berbs.
If Berbatov goes then he will need replacing, but let's not write Bent off just yet. There is a good chance he will get a decent spell in the side next season. Let's see what he can do then.

 

[ackie]

What's scarier is that Levy and his cronies believed, to the point of putting it in black and white on the Official Site, that our current squad (minus Woody, Gilberto and Gunter) could deliver CL footy.

It just shows that we have an ambitious director! He has invest and with two consecutive 5th place, he has the right to believe for 4th place.

 

[stemark44]

Flatters is right ya know we dont need to sell anybody, we just need to buy a couple more. Only sell if we need the money from the sale. Wages are to high. and thats it.

stemark how can you say steeeed should be sold the workforce of the team, The guy who always gives it his all. 3rd in SC player of the year![/quote]

I know that a lot of fans really like Steed but I just think that he lacks real quality and composure.I really don't want to sound as though I am slagging the guy off but I think he runs around a bit like a headless chicken and most of the hard work that he does,is usually to retrieve a ball that he lost in the first place.He would have less work to do if he could hold the ball and pass it a bit better.
When I posted that we should replace Malbranque and Lennon,I did not mean sell them - they should be part of the squad.Sorry for the confusion!:wink:

 

[jimbo]

I think it would be crazy to sell too many of our players, it's not so long ago that we were struggling to get 2 central midfielders on the pitch at the same time.

We need to bring in quality, no question of that, but we also need cover for that quality. We're not in a position to have world class players on the bench.

 

[C0YS]

Flatters is right ya know we dont need to sell anybody, we just need to buy a couple more. Only sell if we need the money from the sale. Wages are to high. and thats it.

stemark how can you say steeeed should be sold the workforce of the team, The guy who always gives it his all. 3rd in SC player of the year![/quote]

I know that a lot of fans really like Steed but I just think that he lacks real quality and composure.I really don't want to sound as though I am slagging the guy off but I think he runs around a bit like a headless chicken and most of the hard work that he does,is usually to retrieve a ball that he lost in the first place.He would have less work to do if he could hold the ball and pass it a bit better.

still it adds a lot of stability into the team!

 

[eddiebailey]

I think it would be crazy to sell too many of our players, it's not so long ago that we were struggling to get 2 central midfielders on the pitch at the same time.

We need to bring in quality, no question of that, but we also need cover for that quality. We're not in a position to have world class players on the bench.

I do not entirely agree. Too much deadwood in the squad can stifle the development of young players coming through, if the manager plays safe and goes with the established option. Arsenal are a good example of a club who do not hang on to senior players once they have passed their sell by date and who are bold in bringing through youngsters. And Middlesboro are a good example of serendipity, where a small squad and an injury crisis resulted in the discovery of players who would otherwise have doubtless languished in their reserves before settling for a career in League One.

The problem with my argument of course is that there is not much talent coming up through our reserve squad at the moment, but in principle...

What I would really like to see is a core of 18 or so senior players, and 11 or so reserves who do not yet expect to play regularly but who have potential and are capable of doing a job when called upon.

 

[stemark44]

I do not entirely agree. Too much deadwood in the squad can stifle the development of young players coming through, if the manager plays safe and goes with the established option. Arsenal are a good example of a club who do not hang on to senior players once they have passed their sell by date and who are bold in bringing through youngsters. And Middlesboro are a good example of serendipity, where a small squad and an injury crisis resulted in the discovery of players who would otherwise have doubtless languished in their reserves before settling for a career in League One.

The problem with my argument of course is that there is not much talent coming up through our reserve squad at the moment, but in principle...

What I would really like to see is a core of 18 or so senior players, and 11 or so reserves who do not yet expect to play regularly but who have potential and are capable of doing a job when called upon.

Again it looks a bit like Comolli has failed us in that department as well,signings not good enough to make the grade.Looks like some of them will be joining Kaboul and Boateng in limbo land!
To be fair to Spurs,other than the two teams you have mentioned nobody else seems to be bringing young players through the ranks either!

 

[C0YS]

Again it looks a bit like Comolli has failed us in that department as well,signings not good enough to make the grade.Looks like some of them will be joining Kaboul and Boateng in limbo land!
To be fair to Spurs,other than the two teams you have mentioned nobody else seems to be bringing young players through the ranks either!

well young Parrett is doing well in the acadamy so...

 

[jimbo]

I do not entirely agree. Too much deadwood in the squad can stifle the development of young players coming through, if the manager plays safe and goes with the established option. Arsenal are a good example of a club who do not hang on to senior players once they have passed their sell by date and who are bold in bringing through youngsters. And Middlesboro are a good example of serendipity, where a small squad and an injury crisis resulted in the discovery of players who would otherwise have doubtless languished in their reserves before settling for a career in League One.

The problem with my argument of course is that there is not much talent coming up through our reserve squad at the moment, but in principle...

What I would really like to see is a core of 18 or so senior players, and 11 or so reserves who do not yet expect to play regularly but who have potential and are capable of doing a job when called upon.

I entirely agree with you.

What I was trying to say was that we should look to bring in the quality midfielders we need first, and sell the deadwood second. What I'm cautious of is selling the likes of Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque and Lennon before we have replacements, if they are to be sold.

Selling genuine deadwood is no problem, as it won't affect the first team.

What I'm wary of is getting burned in the transfer market and starting next season with a worse midfield than finished this one. I didn't express that particularly well in my first post though.

 

[DoublePivot]

Selling deadwood is no problem, as it won't affect the first team

What have I ever done to you :shrug:

 

[DoublePivot]

More links with Estaban Granero

Liverpool and Tottenham are ready to pounce for Real Madrid midfielder Esteban Granero. Real intend to recall Granero from his loan at Getafe, but the midfielder and his agent have made it clear he won't consider being a squad player next season - nor will he accept another loan move, says Marca.

If Real cannot find a place for Granero in Bernd Schuster's first team plans next term, they will have to sell the midfielder - with Liverpool and Tottenham among clubs ready to pounce.



While that is tribal, Goal.com had a similar story without any links to teams, but we have been linked recently.

 

[pagevee]

Apart from the above agree with. But Lennon more of a regular/bench just really pressure

I actually agree with your changes. :beer:
Just didn't explain it as well as possible. Dawson I think the jury is out on considering how poor he was playing earlier in the season. If he falls back into last season's form. Keep him as good coverage for King and Woodgate. I don't mind him at all as a back-up, I just question his ability to start consistently anymore. That said, he was on top form last season. I want to see more of that Dawson compared to this season's.